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Sony quick to point out that Blu-ray is winning the next-gen DVD war

11:37 AM on 04.23.2007, World Famous 41 comments

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My new BFF Dave Karraker just sent over a message with a not-so-gentle nudge to the fact that the Sony-backed Blu-ray format is, in some ways, a success in the next-generation DVD war. Karraker points to these facts detailed in The Hollywood Reporter:

Of the high-definition discs bought by consumers in the first quarter, 70% were in the Blu-ray Disc format and 30% were HD DVD, according to sales figures provided by Home Media Magazine's market research department. Blu-ray took the lead in February, and its percentage of total sales accelerated to the point where it accounted for nearly three out of every four high-definition discs sold in March.

From Jan. 1-March 31, consumers bought almost 1.2 million high-definition discs -- 832,530 Blu-ray units and 359,300 HD DVDs -- according to Home Media Magazine. In March, consumers bought 335,980 Blu-ray Discs and 119,570 HD DVDs.

Since the high-def format's inception -- HD DVD launched in April 2006, while Blu-ray got rolling two months later -- more than 2.14 million discs have been purchased by consumers: 1.2 million Blu-ray Discs and about 937,500 HD DVDs.

All lingering fanboyism aside, once you watch a Blu-ray movie on an HD set, you never really want to go back to a regular old DVD. And, simply because the PlayStation 3 has an included Blu-ray player, I prefer this format. The only barrier for me when buying Blu-ray is the price. It's a good thing God invented Netflix


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tazarthayoot's Avatar
tazarthayoot at 04/23/2007 11:41
HDDVD's are more reasonable in price, I think. But I have to agree, we sell more Blurays at my store than we do HD's.
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some_dude at 04/23/2007 11:41
Blu-Ray?! More like spew-ray! Amirite?
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dv8withn8 at 04/23/2007 11:42
I don't really care what format wins. I just want there to be ONE format to choose from. No more of this cool movie #1 on Blu Ray and cool movie #2 only on HDDVD crap.

But having seen/used both I think HDDVD has a much cooler set of features I haven't seen on Blu Ray. Like the ability to turn on storyboards that play in a little window while the movie is going.

A quick example of what I'm talking about can be seen in this old Gizmodo article.
some_dude's Avatar
some_dude at 04/23/2007 11:43
Just to be fair...
HD-DVD?! More like... um... uh...It Sucks! Amirite?
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Toneman at 04/23/2007 11:47
"And, simply because the PlayStation 3 has an included Blu-ray player, I prefer this format."
Same here.
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neveranything at 04/23/2007 11:56
Just a quick though, if Sony had made the Blu-Ray drive optional on the PS3, like MS did with the HD-DVD drive on the 360, would the sales be as high? Because for those who have all the HD equipment to take full advantage of the format, it's probably awsome, but for a good number of us, it's just newer, more expensive format.

Summa, did you try an HD-DVD movie as well, just for comparison's sake?
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BluDesign at 04/23/2007 11:57
If MS follows through on their whole spiel about not being biased for HD DVD, I'll buy the BluRay drive if they release one. No question. I just don't want to be stuck with a format player that I have to hook up to watch a select few movies.

BTW, I tried out the XBLM HD movie downloads this weekend. It was quite sad. I downloaded Saw III and you coulda been blind and seen that it wasn't good HD. I've downloaded smaller HD torrents of TV shows that had less compression than this fucker did.

Digital downloads for movies won't be in my future if this is what they're prepping us for.

Even with compression issues aside there was nothing in the movie to suggest it was anything more than 480p cheated up to 720p by upscaling.
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Joe Burling at 04/23/2007 12:00
It is still very early in the format war. We are a couple of years at least from deciding a victor. Blu-Ray has taken an early lead, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will win.

Blu-Ray jumped once the PS3 was released, but (and I don't mean this sadistically) what else are PS3 owners going to do? Once you have played through Resistance, you almost have to start renting/buying Blu-Ray movies to justify the price.

But, what will happen once the 360 takes off even more? The PS3 is far away from being purchased by the masses as a second or third console. This means most people won't own a Blu-Ray player unless they go buy a standalone player (or get a PS3). Meanwhile, those same 360 owners who have financially recovered from their 360 purchase may start buying HD-DVD players to compliment their setup.

dv8withn8 brings up a very good point about the feature-set of HD-DVD, and once Vista sales pick up and people realize that Vista will let you legally rip a copy of the movie to your HDD, sales may pick up even more.

People haven't forgotten about Sony's history with format wars, either.

I'm not saying Blu-Ray will lose, but I think they are far from winning.
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World Famous at 04/23/2007 12:07
"Summa, did you try an HD-DVD movie as well, just for comparison's sake?"

No, I haven't. Nor do I care. I have a Blu-ray player and movies look amazing on it. There's no need for me to have HD DVD.

If HD DVD were included in the 360, then I'd probably be all over that format as well.
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rbrooks at 04/23/2007 12:07
is this counting PS3's? I pretty sure most people don't care about hd dvd or blu ray at the momment. The only people buying these things are rich people who want the best and tech nerds who want the highest possible quality in everything.
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Joe Burling at 04/23/2007 12:10
@Summa, "No, I haven't. Nor do I care. I have a Blu-ray player and movies look amazing on it. There's no need for me to have HD DVD. "

...unless you want to watch a Universal picture.

Personally, in a side-by-side comparison, I prefer HD-DVD, but that's because of its built in features. Blu-Ray has the edge when it comes to studio backing, but so far that hasn't led to more/better movies.
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908peruvian at 04/23/2007 12:14
i had the HD-DVD X360 add-on but ALL the movies were going
to Blu-Ray...
I only had Batman Begins and Enter the Dragon,
but since they are WB movies, they are now on Blu-Ray too.
HD-DVD has so little studio support. the delay
between movie releases is so SO long !

i'm going Blu-ray too.
not the video quality is the same cause they are
using MPEG 4 & VC1.
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galagabug at 04/23/2007 12:15
maybe i'm an old grumpypants, but i don't really care for HD movies. i likes my sports in HD, and i loves my discvoery channel in HD (planet earth is the greatest show on tv, ever. seriously).

movies, i kinda like the lower def. i don't wanna be able to point out everything thats been machine generated vs what was actually in studio. i kinda think dvd is clear enough, and the price is right, and its widely available.
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Snaileb at 04/23/2007 12:16
Summa please don't start 360 flame-bait-trolling-whatever-you-do-best...

The Wii MAY deserve it... but not the preciouses..
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Dexter345 at 04/23/2007 12:17
Since I intend to get an HDTV in the near future, and I don't really have a DVD collection yet (just a few I picked up as impulse buys and then the Red vs. Blue DVDs), I figured that I ought to get a Blu-Ray player as well. And since the cheapest Blu-Ray player is also a game system that may have worthwhile games on it in the future, I think I'll actually be buying a PS3 soon, as a Blu-Ray player. Is that wrong of me?
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Joe Burling at 04/23/2007 12:22
Dexter345, if you really want HD movies that bad. I would just stick to renting until the war is actually over.

How did Beta owners feel once VHS won?
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ExpertPenguin at 04/23/2007 12:22
My only problem with their numbers is that they refuse to count HD-DVD/DVD combo discs in their numbers, like Superman Returns, Fearless, Smokin' Aces, etc.

Oh well.
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tazarthayoot at 04/23/2007 12:26
It's a boring debate to say the least. Even if the Blurays win out right now, it'll still be a few years before theres a respectable amount of the Bluray available for people to go out and buy one. I, for one, have roughly 700 DVDs, and have no desire to go out and buy a new player until they become cheap and/or they stop putting all the movies out on regular DVD anyway.
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Jamesways at 04/23/2007 12:30
If you've bought an HD DVD or player, the terrorists have already won.

Honestly I really don't care right now. Just want to play games, not get stuck in the middle a format war.

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subnet6 at 04/23/2007 12:47
Thank you [s]Sony Mouthpeice[/s], Summa.
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subnet6 at 04/23/2007 12:49
Hey, wheres my [strike]strikethrough[/strike]!?!?!?
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subnet6 at 04/23/2007 13:03
BBcode blows.
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HarassmentPanda at 04/23/2007 13:28
Yeah, Sony's numbers are misleading since they don't count the movie that are HD-DVD/DVD combo discs... which is just ridiculous.

Anyway, I do prefer HD-DVD to Blu-Ray, but I just wish the format war would end already.

Interestingly, Wal-Mart recently purchases a shit ton of HD-DVD lasers and assemblies from China that are supposedly going toward a Wal-Mart exclusive budget-minded HD-DVD player. It's rumored that the target price is around $275-$300 for a standalone player.

If those players take off, Blu-Ray could have shaky days ahead of them because Wal-Mart dominates the market in pretty much all regards in the US.
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HarassmentPanda at 04/23/2007 13:30
Actually, here's a link about it: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/22/0035238
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Natedizzle at 04/23/2007 13:49
"No, I haven't. Nor do I care. I have a Blu-ray player and movies look amazing on it. There's no need for me to have HD DVD.

If HD DVD were included in the 360, then I'd probably be all over that format as well."


What Summa said.

Too bad Microsoft didn't include HDMI in their original 360 too.
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DrXym at 04/23/2007 13:59
I wish HD-DVD would die already. While I have a bias towards Blu-Ray (since I own a PS3) I really see nothing compelling about either format. What is obvious is that Blu-Ray is winning and looks likely to continue winning. Therefore I wish the format war would just go away. I don't see how HD-DVD can be sustainable for much longer the way sales are going.
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Mxyzptlk at 04/23/2007 14:24
They're pushing a new video format too early. The average consumer isn't about to repurchase their entire movie library AGAIN after DVD, especially not at $30 a pop. In a couple of years, once there's a unified HDTV standard and one high-def video format, then it'll be worth it to the masses. I'll be holding off until the format AFTER Blu-Ray/HD-DVD at the earliest.
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cbebop007 at 04/23/2007 14:27
I think it's way to early to take any of this information seriously. If I remember what I read correctly, only 1% (if that) of the home movie market has switched to any HD format, whether it be Blu-Ray or HD-DVD...at this point, unless there was a hugehugehuge lead out there, it doesn't mean squat.
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macr at 04/23/2007 14:29
I'm not even in the market for HD video yet. Pretty much stopped buying DVD's for a while now because of this format war.
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nerpin at 04/23/2007 15:21
The day where I give two shits about a movie looking better than a DVD is the day I need to shoot myself in the foot to punish me for being such annoying videophile.
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mix at 04/23/2007 15:24
@Mxyzptlk
"The average consumer isn't about to repurchase their entire movie library AGAIN after DVD"
I dont think the "average" person even went out to buy all their VHS on DVD (waste). As there is really no point unless the movie is absolutely kick ass and what not and I dont plan on buying any dvd I all ready own on blu-ray I'll get the new ones on blu-ray while still supporting dvds.

I only own one blu-ray movie, Saw III, and it was only $25 (CDN) and it's awesome quailty. Hd-dvd and blu-ray movies are around the exact same price it's just that all the good movies go to Blu-ray as I have not once seen a theatre add that says coming to dvd and hd-dvd its always dvd and blu-ray and that support alone should provide enough backing with what format is going to win. If you dont have the movies you obviously cannot supply the demand as you cant provide that movie in Hd.........
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Mxyzptlk at 04/23/2007 15:33
@ mix:

Actually, a lot of non-techy people I know rebought all their favorite VHS movies on DVD once they finally gave in to the format. Tons of people did the same going from tapes to CDs.
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kevvo at 04/23/2007 15:38
No offense.....but how can you be a writer for a site and sound so much like a fan boy summa.......its kinda sickening......
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BahamutZero at 04/23/2007 16:26
LOL @ Kevvo...

n3wb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GatsuTheBerserker at 04/23/2007 16:51
@Mxyzptlk:
"Actually, a lot of non-techy people I know rebought all their favorite VHS movies on DVD once they finally gave in to the format. Tons of people did the same going from tapes to CDs."

Exactly, someone like myself...sort of. We DO NOT need this new goddamn video format so early when we've only just had like, what, 7 years of the DVD? We had gone through at least 30 years with VHS itself before coming to a new format. This is just another mistake for Sony on the market when even though they will get some sales there won't be enough to back them up, much like the PS3. Not every damn person wants to rebuild their library of DVDs just for the sake of "looking better" on a nice TV. And if the DVDs are 30$ a pop then how much do you think the boxsets are going to cost?

DVD > Blu-ray. That will only change in 8-16 years. I'm gonna put it all on hold as well.
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Im OK at 04/23/2007 18:10
@kevvo

Eh, it's really rather old hat these days.
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kevvo at 04/24/2007 06:58
Maybe, but I hate reading anything that sounds so biased.
Been actually wanting to post that for a couple months now...
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subnet6 at 04/24/2007 08:42
Hahaha,

Kevvo, just popped his Summa cherry!

Welcome to the ever-growing club my friend.
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Iceciro at 04/24/2007 09:17
Firstly - agree on summa being a bit biased.

secondly, however - I don't even fucking own an HD-TV. I think this format war comes a bit too early - most non-techies really dont give two shits about it.
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