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Sony: PlayStation Move shovelware is 'a concern' photo

Worried that the PS3 will now be home to crap ports and endless shovelware thanks to the arrival of PlayStation Wiimote? Don't worry, Sony is too! The company has pledged to avoid a launch full of garbage like Carnival Games, stating that shovelware is a concern. 

"It's obviously a concern of ours as well," assures Worldwide Studios VP Scott Rohde. "But, we've taken advantage of the fact that it is a PS3. Sports Champions, for example, has been in development for a while. We're not announcing it yet, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the scope that's offered in that title.

"These are not just one-off, 'hey, play table tennis for fun.' There's an overall objective that crosses over all the different events in that title, and there's a lot of long-term play value in there."

We shall see. Frankly, I think I'd prefer Move to be used for gimmicks rather than shoehorned into existing franchises that would work better on traditional controls, but I'm hoping Sony proves me wrong. Move leaves me feeling very concerned, not least because I see Sony either appealing to a market that Nintendo's already cornered, or a market that bought a PS3 because it didn't want motion control. 

Interview: Sony's Scott Rohde on PlayStation Move [Joystiq]








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Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:48
Xzyliac
Time to bring this back?

Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:49
Crunshii
Socom 4 is a shovelware!? wow well thats a surprise.

That shovelware games will be released? well DUH, its been released since the Eye Toy release and many PSN games are already been labeled shovelware. So honestly who cares if they release shitty games, you know what happens when companies release shitty games. They go down and under.

So here is to all the companies who complained about not making much profit on the Wii because they did not understand the audience, now you can release a beat-em-up death sport game to your hearts content and be worry free, the hardcore market will greet it with open arms.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:53
Cowboy TTop
I share your concern. Its up to Sony to vet the games that will get on to PS3 properly. Welcoming casual gamers is one thing, but seeing how they buy less games, you wouldn't want to over acommodate them, as has been done on Wii.
sewerraccoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:53
sewerraccoon
well, considering Zoo, makers of gems like deal or no deal on the wii, has signed on to develop for the thing, I'd say sonys concern is understandable
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:56
RenegadePanda
Captain Obvious?

At this point it's obvious that motion control == shovelware. It's the natural order, for every good motion controlled game, 5 shovelware titles will be released alongside it. Natal will be the same. The point is that among all the crap, there are bound to be a few genuinely interesting games.
Pudge Controls the Weather's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:57
Pudge Controls the Weather
Who gives a crap about how many bad games there are when you can just ignore them
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:59
Mr Andy Dixon
I'm glad they recognize the concern, but considering Sony makes money for every PS3 game sold, I can't imagine them exactly turning away these types of games at the door. I mean, look at their advertising so far: it's all the same "lifestyle" crap the Wii's been using for years, and if they're targeting the same audience as the Wii, and shovelware sells great on the Wii...

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Nightsama's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:00
Nightsama
"For the ps3 to just now be getting shovelware after so many years on the market is a testament to how strong its library is."

Lair would like a word with you.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:02
Mr Andy Dixon
@hardock spiffy

The PS3 has plenty of shovelware, same with the 360. The only difference is that their shovelware is big budget.

And for the record, the Wii has a great library of games, too. Pretty much anything made by Nintendo has been fantastic.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:04
Genius
@ Nightsama
Lair wasn't shovelware, it was a bad game. There's a difference.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:04
Hiltz
PS3: It only does everything (now with Wii controls and shovelware!)


Irony.
Fatalmuzza's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:04
Fatalmuzza
Like every damned wii game wont get ported. Move is essentially a controller that can do exactly what the wii one can. PS3 will be flooded by the thousands of shitware titles the nintendo now gets. Make it once, port it twice - profit.

M$ may have done the right thing reinventing the the whole concept to differenciate itself...we'll see.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:04
EdgyDude
This is like 2 years old, but actually seeing become real is pathetic beyond words



Seriously, even lightgun games!
hermes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:06
hermes
I have that concern too. If Home proved something, is that Sony is not beyond producing tons of shovelware to catter to an audience is not his and alienate its fans at the same time.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:10
Xzyliac
@EdgyDude
Holy shit I remember that! Keep it from the MS fanobys!

@Pudge Controls The Weather
You're missing the point. Saturation could become a problem. Once you saturate a particular piece of hardware with one idea that one idea becomes the staple of your product and anything different becomes a harder sale plus you can end up polarizing a decent chunk of your audience.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:13
Genius
@EdgyDude
Considering everything in that list can also apply to the Xbox I'd say its pretty biased and also stupid.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:16
EdgyDude
@Genius: first, ironic name, second, though i thought it was pretty obvious that i meant the Wiimote ripoff (provided you followed every Move news on the site) not the message in the image, that was obvious fanboyism.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:16
Hiltz
Why would Sony want Rare? Rare has sucked since it went over to Microsoft and has yet to prove its worth this gen as far as I'm concerned.


Well, people wanted Wii HD so here it is.

Sony doesn't seem to know what it wants.

SixAxis was a flop.
Home was a flop.

Now Sony's trying to play the "if you can't beat em, join em" approach to combat Nintendo on its own turf. It's so painfully obvious and shameless.
I'm just annoyed by Sony's true motives here. They simply want to cash in on the expanded audience market. If it weren't for Nintendo's success, would Sony really even be doing this? I think not.


With that said, I'm happy for the PS3 owners who are looking forward to a second and better solution to motion control than what Sony has already offered. When used properly, motion control has proven to be quite satisfying.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:18
Genius
@ EdgyDude
Actually, you posting that was obvious fanboyism.
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:19
Corbanski
dont worry the 360 will get shovelware too. but it wont be stopped because bill gates has a money adiction.
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:22
Corbanski
@Hiltz i loved the sixaxis and home is just fine
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:22
EdgyDude
@Hiltz:Yeah, the good thing is that if this WiiHD by Sony doesn't sell then it will prove that it's not the Wii that sucks but the poor efforts by developers, and IMO so far it looks like FailHD.
OWENR22's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:23
OWENR22
It won't be all that great, as their will be no Ekans.
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:23
jawshoeuh
some of the Move stuff they've shown at GDC is cool... but I still don't think I will buy. Eyetoy was kind of cool too, but never got around to buying that either... motion control is generally annoying.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:27
Hiltz
@Corbanski

That's great that you love SixAxis. However, the fact is SixAxis has been largely neglected by developers. How many games actually use it? How many actually use it well ? Probably a handful at best.

As far as Home goes, let's be realistic here. Sony had huge expectations for Home and by the time it launched, how many gamers actually care about it ? It did not live up to expectations despite being in development for several years.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:28
Kyle MacGregor
They showed us Wii Sports and Punchout knock offs.

I'd be way more interested in seeing something like Killzone 3 with the Conduit style controls.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:39
Hiltz
The funny thing about Sony's fighting game is that it isn't 1:1 controls as advertised. Secondly, Sony said that you can dodge an opponent's punches attacks by moving your body around with the motion controls (making it seem like its something new) can already be done in the same way as in Wii Sports boxing.
KG989's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:41
KG989
I think the solution to this is simple. If you don't want to play shovelware games then don't buy them. That way you can enjoy your not shovelly games while simultaneously contributing the the decline of them.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:48
Corduroy Turtle
At least Microsoft went in a different direction.

I'd say at most Sony will offer the same game types that have been done on the Wii. We all know that graphics can't save a bad game.

Hardcock- Gamer please!
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:48
Hiltz
Quite frankly, the only way to really prevent shovelware is for Sony to have a strict quality control policy.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:53
EdgyDude
The real problem here is the "same old same old" feel the Move perspires, copying is not wrong perse, but it has to be done right or better else it will fail miserably; Is the IPod original? hell no, MP3 players had been on the market for years the IPod simply refined the formula and killed the original flaws on it. The Move? cloned even the worst ideas that appeared on the Wii.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:53
Elsa
I tend to agree... when I load up a move game chances are I'll simply be drunk and have a few friends over, or I'll be wanting to get a bit of exercise. I really don't need to be progressing though a story or have other restrictions on how I use the game.

Shovelware isn't a concern for me. In fact I would rather that Move games be shoved out in ports and useless sport packs of games than integrated and required for more complex games. Shovelware actually has it's place (and it's price)
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 13:35
The Silent Protagonist
Yeah, why would Sony want competition on shovelware when they have so much coming out internally for this thing? They didn't even bother to stop and think - "Hey, maybe we can do something Nintendo hasn't with this sort of thing?"

And then they go and tack Eyetoy - which everyone hates - on to some of the games. Brilliant.
Timstuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 13:47
Timstuff
Shovelware is not nearly as big a problem on PS3 or Xbox 360 as Wii, and I hope that new control options will not change that. They have always been selective about what software they feel is appropriate for their system, and hopefully those standards carry over to Move and Natal. Nintendo however, simpyl makes you sign the dotted line and you're approved for the official seal of quantity.
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 13:48
PEICanada7
Almost everything that they've shown already looks like shovelware!
CaptNink's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 13:52
CaptNink
I just wish motion control would die. DIE!
Nightsama's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 14:22
Nightsama
@Genius:
Thanks for the definition lesson. However I really could care less about the difference between shitty over-hyped high-budget games, and shitty quick-buck mass-produced cash-in games. Forgive the overused meme but really, shitty game is shitty.
The point I was making was that it was a bit ridiculous for the original poster to be using this news somehow to crow about the ps3's superior library compared to other consoles when it too has it's own share of worthless crap.
Mighty Heman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 14:26
Mighty Heman
@ CaptNink: I don't recall people being this scared of new ways to play video games when we went from joystick to game pad. it seems like the younger generation these days are just a bunch of whiny, scared, emo trolls.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 14:54
EdgyDude
@Mighty Heman: And in the case of PS3 fanboys add hypocrites to all that
UltraDSA's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 14:56
UltraDSA
I'm sure it will get some shovelware but not nearly the extent that the Wii suffers from but we will see.

On a frigging side note do people not know that there are vid's of this damn controller being demoed before the Wii was even released? Not the add on and not with the same button layout but the same shaped controller with the led lit orb at the end. It's unbelievable about how much people wine about copying the Wiimote when there is irrefutable proof this controller was being developed in some shape and form before the Wii even came out.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 15:53
Hiltz
You know, the traditional controller has gone through years of adding innovative features such as the D-pad, the shoulder buttons, the analog stick, force feedback, and other things like wireless controllers.

This is the first generation of motion control. The first! Let's not forget that. If the console manufactures continue to pursue motion control in future geenrations of gaming, it will only get better.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 15:58
catsithx
So I can waggle now on my PS3
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 19:04
pedrovay2003
"Concern?" Shovelware is all they've SHOWN for the damn Move!

I was so unbelievably excited for this, especially after they first revealed it with that awesome tech demo. And what do we get? Bowling and golf, and everything that's been on the Wii since launch. I am not happy about this right now.

SOCOM may be the one non-shovelware game we've seen, and the possible integration of the controller for Resident Evil 5, but that's not NEARLY enough if Sony wants to make Nintendo even care about the competition.
Tarnum's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2010 05:21
Tarnum
""Concern?" Shovelware is all they've SHOWN for the damn Move!"

What else to add? True words indeed...
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2010 08:46
EdgyDude
@Tarnum: Second dat
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