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Sony: PlayStation Move is 'not a pre-order product' photo

Sony has pinned some high hopes on PlayStation Move, but the PS3 platform holder isn't expecting massive day-one success. It's marketing campaign actually begins after the peripheral's launch, and the publisher believes it'll have sales that last, rather than sales that explode.

"It is about creating that massive event spike during the launch week, pushing it out to new audiences and continuing on last year's 'The Game Is Just The Start' campaign," says Sony UK marketing manager Adam Boita. "Pre-orders are always important, but Move is not necessarily a pre-order product. It's not like Halo or World of Warcraft expansions, where people want to get hold of it day one.

"It is an evergreen product. And whereas pre-orders are very important, it is not necessarily the key focus."

I can't quite believe that I'm as excited for Move as I am. I'm not exactly chomping at the bit for Sony's glow-in-the-dark dildo, but I am quite eager to get one and play games like Sorcery. At any rate, Microsoft's cack-handed marketing of Kinect has only made me more interested in Move, so I'll definitely be grabbing one. 

£750,000 gets PlayStation Moving [MCV via CVG]








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Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:05
Sexualchocolate
It may not be a typical pre-order product, but I'm going to pre-order it tomorrow when I go into Gamestation to pick up RUSE.

Only 6 days till it's released in the UK! Before the US for a change! You may not be, but I am indeed chomping at the bit to get my hands on it! I watch move videos pretty much daily and my hype dial is set to 11.

I'm gonna pick up 2 x move controllers, 1 x Nav-con and Sports Champions - I already have the Camera as it's awesome for stuff like video chat and photo-game-face jobbies already...
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:07
shinryu
yeah, I'll probably get it when a game that I really want comes out with move support.

Besides Sony and MS are coming late to the party (the Wii has the big share of motion control games market, and that's not gonna change). And Move isn't exactly cheap. So it's pretty obvious they won't sell billions on day 1.

Marketing is gonna play a big part in this, if Sony can convince casual gamers who already have a Wii that Move is worth their time they could do well.
IdlePye's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:08
IdlePye
I was going to preorder till i realised there in no barely any games at launch, i think they would of been more successful if they saved the move release to conincide with the must have move game. No idea what thar game is yet.
Red Boss's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:09
Red Boss
so, basically, sony is not expecting that move will compete heavily with the wii, it deems.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:09
killias2
Time Crisis is the only thing I'm interested in right now. That's for Move AND Kinect.. meaning I have no interest in Kinect.
azninvasion2000's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:10
azninvasion2000
i'm with shinryu on this, i have enough stuff on my backlog and need too see some "zomg i need this right now" stuff. i will mess with it at best buy though to get a real feel for the quasi 1:1 goodness.
ImperialShield's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:11
ImperialShield
I'm glad some people are looking forward to the release, but I would never pay money for this kind of gimmick. I don't care how accurate the motion-detection is, it's just not the way I want to play games.
Tom Davy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:12
Tom Davy
haha how bad are their PR jesus:
"It's not like Halo or World of Warcraft expansions, where people want to get hold of it day one"
YOU SHOULD BE SAYING UNCHARTED 2/LBP 2 NOT A COMPETING PRODUCT
NapalmMcT DDS's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:16
NapalmMcT DDS
Move will not be a be big pre-order smash due to it's price, and Sony knows this.

It's only "evergreen" because they are already planning price drops.
Kal Zakath's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:16
Kal Zakath
Hopefully Sony can put together some games that really take advantage of the new input and show something unique. Otherwise devs aren't going to want to do anything special for it.

I tried it out last week and the most impressive thing I saw was that when it took a picture during a game it managed to miss me entirely and get a snapshot of my finacee who was standing about 5 ft to the side and about 10 ft back, all while still working.
sewageking's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:17
sewageking
This makes sense. I know that I will eventually buy the Move, but definitely not very soon. I already own a Wii, so I won't buy a Move until there are some games for it that I really want, or until the price goes down.

By the way, two quick questions:

Is the Time Crisis game for Move a port of an older game or a whole new one?
Can you use an Eye Toy camera with the Move instead of the $40 PS Eye camera?
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:18
Corduroy Turtle
@Tom Davy: Exactly what I was thinking.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:24
Sexualchocolate
Sony don't want to sell this to the Wii crowd! (Well, I'm sure they would LOVE to, but they're not putting all their effort into that market like another gaming company who are about to enter the motion control market...) They want to sell it to PS3 owners or people thinking about picking up a PS3.

Also, watch, I think it's called "Iwaggle3D" video on youtube of them playing R.U.S.E. with the move and tell me you would rather play games with a dualshock than move....

As of tomorrow, in the UK at least there will already be at least 2 games (an open beta is a game right?) that already support Move and that's before the controllers are even available... RUSE and the MAG beta program, both of which are high up on my "zomg I need it now" list.

Move is not a "release with must have game" product, it's not being treated as a console/platform of it's very own like Kinect is, it's being treated as an OPTIONAL controller, with a long list of PS3 standard games being given the OPTION of Move support.

I love options.
Mornelithe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:27
Mornelithe
If I had spare money, I'd be getting it day 1, but I'm currently broke for the foreseeable future. Once I get some cash though, definitely getting it.
Robbo the hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:33
Robbo the hood
So Sony's treating this like the PSEye? It isn't like Halo or Wow, but then it isn't software either. Without the install base you won't get support from developers, placing more emphasis on early sales. If the Move doesn't sell well enough over the holidays it's going to be very difficult for Sony to gather any developer support for Move.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:34
amtalx
I'm still hoping both Kinect and Move are miserable failures so we won't have to endure this again.
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:41
Emrah
Guess I did wrong by pre-ordering it for me, my brother, and a friend then.
Vitor Oliveira's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 08:45
Vitor Oliveira
You know what´s really wrong with Playstation Move, aside from the price?

- The fact that its biggest selling point until now its the pointer feature, something the Wii had right from the box since 2006.

Yeah, Move has a lot of 1:1 motion recognition capabilities. But up until now, its pointer controls all over.

So there you go. $100 for a Ps wiimote and nothing else.
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:04
Drakengard
Why should SONY try to get the Wii demographic? Sure, they could try and I'm sure some of them might just bite on it. But SONY already has a nice install base. If they can give them a reason to own Move, then they're fine.

I believe that's essentially what they mean here. SONY knows that if they provide the games, Move sales will follow. Yeah, the launch lineup is average, but the technology is sound. Get some of the more core base games using move is a functionally more effective manner (RE5, KZ3, Uncharted, Socom, MAG, etc), get some ports of Wii games like the on-rail shooters, get some creative companies to make some very interesting games via the Move tech and the consumer will buy the tech.

The other thing about Move is that this isn't just some PS3 tech, this is tech that SONY wants to carry forward into the PS4 (whenever that is) which due to its small code size and ease of porting into games, it will never hinder the console anywhere as much as something like Kinect does. Motion controls are a whole new niche in the industry. Everyone has to support it in some capacity, but the key is recognizing that it is a well paced jog, not a sprint.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:08
Corduroy Turtle
Move is not 1:1
TuxBobble's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:10
TuxBobble
I would pick it up day 1 if they made the demo disc of games into a free download on PSN. Problem is I wont be buying the bundle since I already have the Eye. So if I buy just the remote I wont have anything to play on it. Unless the controller without camera also has that disc which Im guessing it doesnt.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:14
Sexualchocolate
Move follows the controller to sub pixel accuracy. If I move the controller an inch, the virtual representation of the controller moves an inch too.

I don't know what your definition of 1:1 is turtle, but move is as close as current tech can get.

Am I like the only person really looking forward to ruse? Especially with move support!
Mornelithe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:14
Mornelithe
@ Corduroy Turtle:

Yeah it is, pretty much every reviewer has stated so, and the demo's we've seen thus far would certainly disagree with you.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:30
DinnertimeNinja
@Corduroy Turtle,

Please explain why you think this.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:40
Corduroy Turtle
Doesn't the term 1:1 refer to a lack of latency as well? The Move games that I saw in person had a bit of a lag from the players movements to what happened onscreen.
I have no doubt that the camera can accurately track the glowing ball
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:46
PEICanada7
They're not advertising it until after it comes out! See this is where Sony, and Nintendo differ. Nintendo had a huge push for the Wii with the "Wii Would Like To Play" ads before the Wii came out. I think pre-orders for this thing must be really low and that's why they're covering their backsides here. So they'll just temper everyones expectation now, because when the NPD's show how little it sells in September, it won't look so bad to people.
BiggyP's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 09:47
BiggyP
@SC
Im with you on the move-part, but RUSE really looks like shit haha :D. I played the demo of it and i really thought it sucked wich was too bad, since it would be nice to controll a RTS-game with move.
It was just the game that didnt get to me.
And my economy this month is kinda bad so move went from day1 purchase to "i dont know when" for my part. Ill probably buy it when Heavy Rain and RE5 gets patched for it
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:01
pedrovay2003
I canceled my reservation because there are no launch games I'm interested in. I'm definitely getting a couple eventually, though.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:07
catsithx
Still not going to get it. Don't care for it much to warrant a buy of it .
Romo Metaxxas's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:14
Romo Metaxxas
Move is an option for accurate 1:1 motion controls only possible on the Playstation 3. It will be awesome to play MAG with Move or Heavy Rain with immersive controls. I can't see why gamers can't be excited for this.

@Pedrovay
How about support for existing games like the aforementioned MAG, Heavy Rain and Resident Evil 5. That alone is more reason to Move in. Hahaha.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:18
Sexualchocolate
@BiggyP

Dude, we must just be two different animals. I've played the RUSE demo over about 100 times and love it so much!!!

Seriously search "Iwaggle3d" on google and check out their ruse + move video, shit look hawt. apart from the guys stupid French accent.
Josef Hargreaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:21
Josef Hargreaves
This is better than Kinect because it's only slightly mis-sold.to you, whereas Kinect decided it was actually the Matrix in game form, but it isn't.

Either way, they both suck.
Kal Zakath's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:36
Kal Zakath
@Josef Hargreaves have you actually played or the move? I know " haters gonna hate" but come on the vast majority of people haven't touched either. Until they are in the hands of the masses I don't think it's really fair to judge.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:38
Sexualchocolate
Oh yes, the old "they both suck" comment.

Excellent.

Seriously as someone said above, i cannot comprehend why any gamer would not care about this???!

It's the most popular toy/casual-console control scheme, on steroids with AAA game support, full HD etc etc, combined with the competitions control scheme, and is pretty much optional for most of the games.

ImperialShield's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:47
ImperialShield
Well, as I said earlier I can see how some people are excited, but i've tried 'core' games like Metroid Prime 3, The Conduit, and Resident Evil 4 on the Wii at a buddy's house and the pointer aiming just doesn't do anything for me. I'm all for anything that expands gaming and helps shine a more positive light on the hobby as a whole, but for my personal use, I like my controllers as they are now.
waxximis's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:49
waxximis
yah i dont care about this at all, i already own a wii and it has better games.
(no im not a sony hater, i have a few ps3 games, wii just has more)
augustoaag's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:53
augustoaag
please someone ban sexualchocolate.

we fucking hate you.
Vitor Oliveira's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 10:59
Vitor Oliveira
@Sexualchocolate

Wiimote control scheme + playstation3 games really seems like a match made in heaven.

I love to play Modern Warfare on wii, and really feel like something´s missing when i have to play FPS on the PS3 with dual analogs.

The only problem is that to play with Move you have to buy "a new, more expensive wiimote"

And that would be fine and dandy if they had cool and innovative games using 1:1 motion recognition. But they dont. They only have waggle-waggle Heavy Rain.

So... ill wait for a heavy price drop or the really innovative games. Otherwise, just not worthy
Mr. Dent's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:00
Mr. Dent
so essentially, they expect it to sell like 1st party wii games, except wii games are bought FROM day one.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:30
Sexualchocolate
@ augustoaag - Get an avatar and maybe someone might listen to you, maybe.
Kal Zakath's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:45
Kal Zakath
I meant to say kinect or the move. Stupid iPhone autocorrect. It is biased against Microsoft names :)
Cortes121's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:47
Cortes121
Honestly, No mechanic is going to get me to enjoy games more. I love a great story, but thats just me personally.
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:52
Cynical Gamer
Are people going to seriously buy the Move or the Kinnect?
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 11:54
Cynical Gamer
Are people seriously going to buy the Move or the Kinnect? A few years too late Sony and Microsoft.
VampireVick's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:21
VampireVick
Looks cool, Too bad I stopped playing with toys years ago.
PhoenixFD's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:24
PhoenixFD
IMO, I think the move is just a rip-off of the Wii just with better control, 1:1, and graphics. At least the Kinect is innovative enough to throw away the controller all together and has proved that it works great! It will be interesting to keep track of sales for all three consoles once Kinect and Move hit the streets. My prediction is that Kinect and Wii will dominate this Christmas and then once the Spring comes along, we will see the Move slowly picking up. :)
jawshoeuh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 12:34
jawshoeuh
@augustoaag

speak for yourself brah, we love sexualchocolate and his whacky ways.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 13:53
Sexualchocolate
I really don't understand the "it's just a Wii but better" comments. Read it again...

A wii, but BETTER.

What more do you want?

Seriously, a chicken, chilly, cheese and chocolate sandwich is "innovative" but I'm sure it wouldn't taste better than a "blt but better"

A computer that can brush your hair would be innovative, but I'd prefer a normal computer but better.

Don't get me wrong, project natal looked interesting, but it's retarded halfwit, short sighted, ginger child called kinect does not.

Give back the finger recognition (read: high resolution capture), the ability to "photo" objects and import them, the ability to recognise 4 players, the full voice recognition etc etc etc and maybe kinect could do more than roll around crying in a puddle of move's piss.
augustoaag's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:17
augustoaag
@jawshoeuh: speak for yourself brah, we love sexualchocolate and his whacky ways.

Of course you like him. But not all of us have been playing and loving SONY for TEN YEARS Like YOU both.
augustoaag's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/09/2010 14:18
augustoaag
maybe kinect could do more than roll around crying in a puddle of move's piss.
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