The PC is considered the home of the real-time-strategy game, with the mouse and keyboard providing uncontested control of a battlefield. Sony, however, has other ideas, claiming instead that PlayStation Move has what it takes to supplant the PC and become the new RTS king.
"I think that PC RTS games are designed right now for the mouse and keyboard, but I think the Move can work with the more general idea of an RTS really well," says Move designer Dr. Richard Marks. "It could play a PC RTS really well, but I think there is modifications on the RTS genre that will be really good with. I play a lot of RTS games but the way I think about it is you have a landscape below you with all the troops, and imagine you're the general and you just want to look out over your troops and select guys - tell them to attack there.
"You really feel like this general or god-like person that can manipulate huge armies. I think that with Move would feel way better than a mouse for that, for example, and doing things that require some 3D information is much better with Move. The RTS genre has been designed not to require any 3D information, but having that extra dimension and all the angle data that we have too is also very interesting."
I'll believe it when I see it, that's all I'm saying.
Sony: Move can out-do mouse & keyboard [CVG]
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give me a giant touchscreen for my RTS not a wand
Still i kinda find it hard to understand what he is saying here.
Simple fact remains, if a game is built around using the Move's unique functionality then I have no doubts the controls will be a success. However, if said developer goes about shoe horning Move controls into an existing game (genre) then it'll be sloppy and cumbersome at best.
Microsoft, I'm now looking at you for a rebuttal on how flailing your body around Kinect is the only true way to play backgammon.
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
This guy should do standup!
How long have we been using M/K set ups, I guess touch came out and perhaps this is in the same realm. I know that even using my drawing pad instead of my mouse is pretty fun to do in games.
So yeah I think ruse is gonna be sweet with the move.
Simple controller controls are antiquated and out of date.
Let's all 'move' along to the new kinect and Move controllers. Because, obviously if it's new then it must be better!
Also, why would I listen to Sony? They're trying to sell this thing to me.. they'll tell me it's better to eat with eggs then bacon is if they have to.
Stupid.
For the time being the platform of choice for RTS's is the PC, whether I'd want to believe the pr of a company who's hardware has never featured a strong RTS lineup is questionable.
I'd like to be proven wrong, however. So time will tell.
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Nothing is going to be more accurate and responsive as a mouse and keyboard setup. It was created a long time ago, but every year it's updated with even MORE accuracy and comfort.
Put a group of pro console players against regular PC players and see who wins any FPS match (Console players need to turn off the aim helper, btw)
Also, "Top Down" RTS's would be extremely boring.
Also, like garethxxgod said, does the PS3 even have any RTS titles?
Hey, man, you're right, now that I think about it. The PS3 actually doesn't have any RTS games tailored to the Move system.
Of course, that's mainly because the Move system hasn't yet been released. Yeah, I think that's a good reason.
I mean, seriously ..
Better than keyboard? maybe, but better than mouse?
Even if things like the Move or Kinect are not going to replace the mouse, something else will.
RTS games, hell, even modding (UT3), web browsing, video sharing, etc will move on to the consoles. It only takes time.
Wiimote and FPS was pretty awesome, too, and I tend to hate FPS.
Goodjob being a smartass. What I meant was: "does the PS3 have any RTS's right now?" I don't have a PS3 therefore I was just wondering? Why the need to be an asshole about it? Good God.
Either way, just by reading the article, you can see how vague Mr. Marks sounds about all of this. It sounds to me like he doesn't even really know what he's talking about. That's what I think anyway.
We wouldn't want it to feel like we're cheating, eh Jim?
lol We will see 1 months ! R.U.S.E got Move support !!!!
And R.U.S.E will be like the article say. If you didnt played it on PC. R.U.S.E is a world war 2 strategy game. And you zoom out the camera, you see the map as a General. You see your room and assistant on computer. And your army look like little soldier figurine ( Like WW2 movies )
I LOVED the game on PC with the free week-end. Starcraft 2 is clearly more deep and fun when you understand the basic.
But R.U.S.E look more like a Defense/tower game too me. It's more fast and easy to play. Starcraft2 is better, but more complicated.
In resume, we will see in 1 month !!!
I seriously think that R.U.S.E move version will have a better rating then the PC or normal version. R.U.S.E look like natural fit for this game. You will maybe have the feel of being a general in WW2. ( But i see it more, like a laser pointer xD anyway )
By the way, R.U.S.E will be playing with 1 PS Move and your normal PS3 controler or ( the 30$ Nav. controller ( the nunchuck ))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q
Then see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uF_fasPphc#t=2m22s
but otherwise I believe it