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Sony may let you download your old UMDs on Vita for cheap photo

When the PSPgo was released as an all-digital system, there was a question over whether or not older PSP owners would be able to get digital versions of their old UMD games, should they buy the new system. Sony answered that question by offering f*ck all, but it may change tact with the PS Vita

Sony Computer Entertainment development head Yoshio Matsumoto has dropped the hints, alluding to older PSP games being available to download at a "special" price, for those who want to play their existing library on the new, UMD-less Vita. 

Apparently, Sony is "looking into" this service, which isn't a cast-iron guarantee. Meanwhile, a retailer has claimed that Sony will announce something involving the ability to play UMDs on the PS Vita in the next day. He might be talking about the same thing, but nobody's sure yet. 

In any case, it would be a cool thing to have. Then I can keep playing Rock Band Unplugged and absolutely nothing else. 

Vita owners may get cheap downloads for PSP UMD collection [andriasang]








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Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:04
Epic-Kx
If they do it for say, $4.99 a download for our owned UMDs, that'll work. I just want my SFA3Max, Darkstalkers Chronicle, Power Stone. KH:BBS, and Parappa.
Lanofrose's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:11
Lanofrose
dumb idea I own the game already why do I have to pay for it again (even if discounted)

they should have a system were you can prove you own the umd and get a digital copy free

(it would be like when you bought dues ex Hr you got an on live version free.... not really the same but similar
ManWithNoName's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:14
ManWithNoName
Depends on the price. If it is lower than US$2,00, no problem. More than that I would keep my PSP for the games I have there.
tehTommy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:16
tehTommy
Cool. Put Gitaroo Man and Half-Minute Hero there and I'm happy.
Namodacranks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:18
Namodacranks
Wtf? How could anybody think this was good? You're PAYING for games you already bought just to transfer them!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:18
Sexualchocolate
I've already re-bought my favourite UMD's as digital anyway, just cause I hate carrying little discs around.

The only one i'm yet to get DD is Peace Walker and I'm kinda done with it anyway.

Bring on the Vita! My digital library is READY!
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:20
Scuffles
@Lanofrose

Yes it is stupid but its more that you would be paying for the "service".

Personally I think I would just wait it out for someone group outside Sony to provide the same "service" for free. Of course that would probably involve violating the ToS and voiding the warranty.
spatuluk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:25
spatuluk
didn't they say exactly the same thing when the PSPGo was about to be released? Also, it relies on the titles being available on PSN, which an awful lot of titles aren't. I'll believe it when I see it.
Lord Kolekovishin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:28
Lord Kolekovishin
As long as I still get to keep my original discs, I will be fine with it.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:29
Scuffles
@ManWithNoName

Wait what?
If they tried to charge you too much you would keep your existing PSP to play your library of games instead of paying Sony needlessly?

YOU MONSTER!!!!
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:29
liddokun
Meh.
I do still wonder where the fuck is that UMD drive for the PSP Go that Logitech was working on.
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:31
Gaidenrider
Every game I wanted on download I already rebought, no matter how costy it was (well, actually, I just rebought Chains of Olympus), but this might be a good thing to get Ghost of Sparta and Persona 2 as a download for "cheap"
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:34
Tristrix
What I can't figure out is how they're going to determine whether or not you already own the games. Will this "cheap" price for a digital copy only be available to people that own the UMD? Or will they just reduce the price for all of us?

Not that I want to inconvenience or rip off you guys that own UMDs but as someone that never owned a PSP, I'm hoping it's the later, and strongly suspect it probably will be. I can't think of any reasonable way they could establish ownership.
Gaidenrider's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:36
Gaidenrider
@jimmyx: Now... I REALLY am starting to believe that you are a kid. Are you really 12?
TurboKill's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:38
TurboKill
Yeah, how do we prove it is what I wish to know.

Would've wished that BC would have been a priority with them..
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:38
amtalx
Cheap? It should be free. Sony has really taken to the tactic of selling you games you already own.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:39
Scuffles
@Tristrix

You mean short of actually sending them your physical UMDs.

Hell maybe it is the logictech drive they were talking about years ago, people were musing that it might have some code snippet that would require you to "re-sync" your UMDs every so many days.

But yeah its probably going to be little more than a discount on buying the game again.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:44
Tristrix
@Scuffles

See, that sounds unreasonable to me. I couldn't even begin to imagine how many UMDs have been purchased throughout the lifetime of the PSP but I don't think I'm off base in suggesting it's in the hundreds of millions. Can you imagine the logistics of receiving, cataloging and crediting the owners of all those?

Granted I'm sure not ALL of them would be sent it, but they can't make the mistake of underestimating the response of a program like that. Regardless, it would require actual human beings opening all those envelopes/boxes/whatever, making note of each individual UMD, and crediting each person for them, unless someone has invented an automatic box-opening UMD-counting robot I don't know about.

So yeah, no, that's absolutely not even remotely feasible at all and just plain silly to expect.
ManWithNoName's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:44
ManWithNoName
Jimmyx is not twelve. He is a genius! As Sony biggest fan, he make his best to look like a stupid twelve year old making Sony looking better every time he post a comment! Keep doing it jimmyx! Keep making Sony looking better!
jmoschmo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:45
jmoschmo
I don't know if this is really necessary considering how easy it is to backup umd games on a psp but I guess the vita won't have custom firmware for the first couple of months. The state of piracy is way out of control on the original psp
liddokun's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:48
liddokun
@amtaix still better than Nintendo. Not that comparing to them it means anything at all, but you get my point.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 08:54
Fugly Duckling
I'd rather buy games I haven't already payed for and played through, thank you.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:03
Sexualchocolate
You know, no-one is FORCING you to buy a Vita and to re-buy your old games???!

Simply giving you an option and (hopefully) doing so at a fair price, I mean come on, you will end up with 2 copies of the game, whether you use them both or not - man the internet is full of such whiny little bitches.

Yall need a dose of MAN THE FUCK UP.

Personally, if it's an old game that I'm done with, i don't want a digital version. if it's a game i want to play i have 3 options to play it...

1) Rebuy digital (hopefully at reasonable price)
2) Keep PSP and play it on there
3) Don't play it and man the fuck up.

Sony isn't holding a gun to your head, stealing your UMD's and making you pay for the games again! But from the sound of some of you whiney little bitches you would think that's what they're doing.

Geezus.

Faith in the internt -1.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:03
Hasney
For cheap? Pass. I'll just fiddle my PSP until Vita has enough games I want.

Hell, I've not even upgraded my iTunes tracks to iTunes plus "for cheap".
dunnace's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:07
dunnace
If peace walker wasn't in the MGSHD pack I would be more concerned.
EDOfying Films's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:14
EDOfying Films
I'm actually thinking that jimmyx is one of Jim Sterling's alter egos. Think about it. Really. Think.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:20
mrplow8
That's really nice of them to possibly not charge me a lot for games that I already paid for.
TuxBobble's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:25
TuxBobble
Kind of like how Sony was "looking into" downloading UMDs for PSP Go? I'm done with Sony portable gaming, after the PSP Go fiasco--including the fact that some old gems never wound up downloadable at all. Additionally, portable games are getting way too expensive anyway.
quantumriian's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:38
quantumriian
Enti-tle-me-ent you make my daayy-yaaaay
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:39
Master Snake
@Sexualchocolate: Everyone here knows you're not exactly a neutral party when it comes to this stuff (read: fanboy). Sony could step on some grapes with dirty boots, put them in water, tell you it's wine and you'd guzzle it up like nectar!

I'll bet if it MS or Nintendo doing the EXACT SAME THING you'd be taking potshots at them, but because it's Sony you gotta MAN UP.
MCBattery's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:43
MCBattery
@jimmyx This coming from someone who pays a yearly fee to play online ROLF!!! M$ makes much more sense than $ony.

On topic, My PSP broke and after the Vita announcement I decided not to fix it. I have a bunch of UMD's I never played so I like this idea as long as the price is reasonable.
Sanious's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:44
Sanious
Re-paying for games you already own is such a tool move. Congratulations to Sony for making money off of fanboy idiots.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:50
Tristrix
@Sanious

What would you prefer them to do, and how would you suggest they go about doing it?
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:52
The Silent Protagonist
Of course, if Sony just had backward compatibility in the first place, this would never have become an issue. I'm pretty sure for the price of the tech to have a backtouch panel they could have kept a UMD drive.

Sony doesn't have a plan for this other than "We'll see if we can get third parties to agree to drop the price of existing games on PSN" and even that's probably a stretch.
welshwilderbeast's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 09:54
welshwilderbeast
I would prefer a peripheral anyone who wants to play they're old games can but the download service would be awesome cuz I have some broken games I wanna play
Montag 451's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:05
Montag 451
A new system is a new system. Where has this idea that backwards comparability is a given come from? As much as I find Sony/Microsoft/nintendo money grabbing buggers, that is what they are supposed to be. They are in it to make money.

Why should they spend money on letting you play old games from another system? It doesn't just happen, it will have a cost. If the cost is low enough then they will include for free. If not then you will have to pay for it.

Freaks me out that people seem to think that games are being made just to keep you happy. Simple answer, look at the specs when released, weigh up benefits versus cost then decide to buy. Just stop fuckin' whining.
AngrySouske's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:16
AngrySouske
I'm not too keen on the idea of paying again for games I already own and I don't think many others are either. While I also understand that its paying for a service, I'd need to seriously love the game to download it again. Might just keep the Psp and wait for the Vita to drop price.
dober7's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:19
dober7
Who wants to bet they'll make "Vita version" re-releases of greatest hit PSP games? That sounds like something Sony would/will do.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:19
Sexualchocolate
Again, if you've got a game on psp, assuming you have the right to play it on another platform for free is ridiculous.

Being offered a discounted version is nothing but nice!

Just don't buy it again. Problem solved.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:22
Insanity-Oo
@The Silent Protagonist: While no backwards compatability sucks, UMDs needed to die in a fire. Really, they did: they were slow, bulky and loud as all hell. Bad format is bad.
Rabite's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:26
Rabite
jimmyx: You're 12. Also did you know that it's actually M$ not $ony?

The Silent Protagonist: Considering Vita plays PSP and PS1 games via PSN I'd say it DOES have BC.

Here's my question though: What about 60% of my UMD library that isn't on PSN yet? Including my imports from Europe and Japan? Will they magically show up? Parodius Portable, Salamander Portable, Final Fantasy 1 and 2, Star Ocean 2, Goku Makai Mura Kai, Tales of Eternia, etc. None of those are on PSN in the US yet. Will I still be screwed? That's what killed the PSP Go for me. Not the battery life, not rebuying games I already own, not the fact that it STILL doesn't protect the screen. The fact that I couldn't get all my games on there. I am two things: A Final Fantasy 1 whore and a Disgaea whore. PSP Go only helped me with the latter part. Fucking Squeenix and their shitty support of PSN.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:47
Sexualchocolate
KEEP YOUR PSP AND PLAY THEM ON THERE!!!!

It's not rocket science.


Waaaaaaaaaaaah I want the moon on a stick, but i also want the digital version of a moon on a stick AND the physical version of the moon on a stick! But I don't want to have to pay extra, i want EVERYTHING FOR FREE!!!!
El Conrado's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:50
El Conrado
@The Silent Protagonist

I don't think keeping the UMD drive would have been such a hot idea.

For starters, UMD is an obsolete format. It's not getting any support and it only holds 1.8GB; Vita Carts hold 4GB minumum and don't make a disc drive motor and optical lens bog down the battery.

Then, there's the question of why keeping it at all. As said, the capacity is just not cost effective anymore, so you wouldn't use it for Vita games; would you keep it just for backwards compatibility, even though you can do that via software download? I don't think so.

UMD is dead.
SayWord's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:50
SayWord
Don't really care. If I want to play my umd games ill use my psp. I'm not throwing my psps away once I get a vita.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:53
SourGr8pes
Geez, what's so hard about making some kind of peripheral that rips or plays the UMDs?

I really don't don't want to repurchase all my stuff over again (Knowing Sony, the 'discount' is probably like a buck or two), and it's really doubtful the imports I own are going to show up in the store.
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 10:55
Tristrix
"Geez, what's so hard about making some kind of peripheral that rips or plays the UMDs?"

They'd have to charge for it, and people would still throw a shit fit about having to pay to play games they already paid for.
Courtney Roberts's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 11:03
Courtney Roberts
God forbid sony have to pay their staff for offering a service. Back compatability isnt a right people. So much self entitlement.

I'm just happy that they are even thinking about it, logistically this is gonna be big for them considering the volume of processeses they'll have to go through to offer you your games. They wont be making a lot of profit out of this, because if they set the price too high the backlash would be awful.
Mastrmeatwad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 11:05
Mastrmeatwad
wow, chocolate had to post the same comment three times. Do you feel like you are failing at making an intellectual point? If there was more people like chocolate that bought multiple variations of the same thing the world's economy may be in a better place. (i keed)
Regardless. It would be a nice service to offer but how they plan on implementing the program will be interesting. Perhaps like Tristx commented Sony may decide to sell psp titles on the cheap to every adopter of the Vita. It would be nice to transfer your umd to digital, and it is a nice idea. We will see when more information is released,how they plan to do this, and if they decide to follow through.
DadouXIII's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 11:08
DadouXIII
And why exactly does Sony make people want to pay a second time?
Nightsama's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2011 11:13
Nightsama
@Master Snake
Dude might be biased towards sony, but dude also has a point. Your ad hominem argument doesn't change that fact. And it's not even just this, there's a LOT of butthurt going on lately where game companies are giving options and consumers are actually bitching about it. Go look at the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer article's comment section, it's a fucking cavalcade of fail and aids.
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