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waiting for Persona4 to buy a Vita.
well, actually waiting for the next inevitable Vita hardware rev too. hoping it will have better battery life and cheaper then.
also, FFX HD on Vita would make me bite too.
well, actually waiting for the next inevitable Vita hardware rev too. hoping it will have better battery life and cheaper then.
also, FFX HD on Vita would make me bite too.
Exclusives, and a better price, how hard is this. Sony, letting their arrogance and ignorance get in the way again.
The Vita is amazing and anyone who doesn't buy it, especially if there were PSP owners, is either an idiot, or broke.
I like video games a lot, but I pretty much only play them at home. So when I buy a handheld (like the DS) I buy it because the sorts of games I can play on that platform are unlike games I can play on consoles that plug into my television. I still play them mostly on the couch or in bed, but the fact that games like Etrian Odyssey, Patapon, Professor Layton, etc. exist is what makes me want to buy handheld systems.
Sony's real problem with the Vita as far as I'm concerned (the thing that makes me not even want to buy one) is that these sorts of games just don't exist on the Vita, and Sony's positioning on the Vita appears to be either "This is an extension of your PS3" or "You can things that are just like PS3 games wherever you go with the Vita!" But honestly, if Sony's just going to put out games that are like games I can play on the PS3, PC, or Xbox 360, then I've got no reason to even want a Vita since I'd rather play those games on the PS3, PC, or Xbox 360.
Sony's real problem with the Vita as far as I'm concerned (the thing that makes me not even want to buy one) is that these sorts of games just don't exist on the Vita, and Sony's positioning on the Vita appears to be either "This is an extension of your PS3" or "You can things that are just like PS3 games wherever you go with the Vita!" But honestly, if Sony's just going to put out games that are like games I can play on the PS3, PC, or Xbox 360, then I've got no reason to even want a Vita since I'd rather play those games on the PS3, PC, or Xbox 360.
I want a Vita, but it has no games I want at the moment, add the fact that there will probably be a revised one coming out in the future like they do with all handhelds nowadays. I don't need a second PSP shaped paper weight
overpriced system,
overpriced accessories that are required to buy separately just to use overpriced hardware,
lack of games,
complete lack of GOOD games,
non-existing line-up of upcoming games,
lackluster support from Sony itself(still no PSX and PS2 support, really?),
insanely pricy games - how come, all Vita games are more expensive than most expensive 3DS titles. Vita has no budget priced games, everything is 40euros and up.
overpriced accessories that are required to buy separately just to use overpriced hardware,
lack of games,
complete lack of GOOD games,
non-existing line-up of upcoming games,
lackluster support from Sony itself(still no PSX and PS2 support, really?),
insanely pricy games - how come, all Vita games are more expensive than most expensive 3DS titles. Vita has no budget priced games, everything is 40euros and up.
So here we go again the ps3, the psp, the Wii, and even the 3ds all went through this and ended up bug sellers but apparently the media wants to review this lesson again.
So why is the handheld with great tech, one of the best launches I've seen, 20 games on the show floor at e3 and probably more at tgs all within its first 7 months doomed, because it doesn't have games, hmmmmmm.
So that's one case of riddlen for everyone, pass em around we have plenty.
Now why is Sony doomed, well actually every electronics maker aside from apple and Samsung seem to be having issues and it all seems to stem from the fact the American dollar isn't worth the paper its printed on.
Well seeing it was the Republicans that fucked our credit rating over last year they must have a plan to fix this, lets see what there up too, hmmm ah there being racist, blocking bills that would really help people and trying to convince the people that their presidential nominee whom they didn't like till they had no choice isn't an out of touch rich boy who hates middle class and poor people. And the dems, well there to busy fighting this crap off to actually accomplish something non election related.
Sorry market, your gonna have to deal with the fact that the dollar is crap for a little while longer, were to busy killing ourselves to attend to that.
Rough economic bs aside I personally can't wait to get my vita, but this scene as a whole worries me. The vita has had one of the best launches I have ever seen in the history of gaming and according to the market it wasn't good enough. What people aren't realizing is that's saying alot more about our market than the vita, and none of it is good.
The next gaming crash might not be an if anymore but a when, because there is no reason a system that had the launch the vita had should have been anything but a golden success.
So why is the handheld with great tech, one of the best launches I've seen, 20 games on the show floor at e3 and probably more at tgs all within its first 7 months doomed, because it doesn't have games, hmmmmmm.
So that's one case of riddlen for everyone, pass em around we have plenty.
Now why is Sony doomed, well actually every electronics maker aside from apple and Samsung seem to be having issues and it all seems to stem from the fact the American dollar isn't worth the paper its printed on.
Well seeing it was the Republicans that fucked our credit rating over last year they must have a plan to fix this, lets see what there up too, hmmm ah there being racist, blocking bills that would really help people and trying to convince the people that their presidential nominee whom they didn't like till they had no choice isn't an out of touch rich boy who hates middle class and poor people. And the dems, well there to busy fighting this crap off to actually accomplish something non election related.
Sorry market, your gonna have to deal with the fact that the dollar is crap for a little while longer, were to busy killing ourselves to attend to that.
Rough economic bs aside I personally can't wait to get my vita, but this scene as a whole worries me. The vita has had one of the best launches I have ever seen in the history of gaming and according to the market it wasn't good enough. What people aren't realizing is that's saying alot more about our market than the vita, and none of it is good.
The next gaming crash might not be an if anymore but a when, because there is no reason a system that had the launch the vita had should have been anything but a golden success.
@Black Nexus
Sony's problems are long standing, and have more to do with their decade+ of insane arrogance than anything else.
They were wildly dominant in the portable music space, only to have their arrogance allow Apple to completely destroy it because the CD guys at Sony didn't want to support anything but their baby. What was once a product ubiquitous with portable music, the Walkman, became a joke once the iPod hit.
They were dominant in the TV space, then they didn't bother hopping on the flat-panel train because their Trinitron tech was good enough. Their TV department hasn't made money in more than a decade.
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Play couldn't be called the PLaystation phone because SCE wouldn't let them use the name; Sony wouldn't let Sony use the Playstation name.
I guess we don't have to talk about what happened to their dominant market share in gaming.
Sony makes more money on selling life insurance than everything else they do combined. If their life insurance business tanked, there would be no more Sony.
The list goes on and on. Sony has a real issue with expecting to be treated like royalty just because they're Sony. They have a long history of sending things to market and letting them die. The Vita has had 10 of the last 16 weeks go by without any game releases, despite the fact that its a new system. That should speak volumes as to how ready Sony is to support it.
The economy isn't helping, but it is far from Sony's real issue.
Sony's problems are long standing, and have more to do with their decade+ of insane arrogance than anything else.
They were wildly dominant in the portable music space, only to have their arrogance allow Apple to completely destroy it because the CD guys at Sony didn't want to support anything but their baby. What was once a product ubiquitous with portable music, the Walkman, became a joke once the iPod hit.
They were dominant in the TV space, then they didn't bother hopping on the flat-panel train because their Trinitron tech was good enough. Their TV department hasn't made money in more than a decade.
The Sony Ericsson Xperia Play couldn't be called the PLaystation phone because SCE wouldn't let them use the name; Sony wouldn't let Sony use the Playstation name.
I guess we don't have to talk about what happened to their dominant market share in gaming.
Sony makes more money on selling life insurance than everything else they do combined. If their life insurance business tanked, there would be no more Sony.
The list goes on and on. Sony has a real issue with expecting to be treated like royalty just because they're Sony. They have a long history of sending things to market and letting them die. The Vita has had 10 of the last 16 weeks go by without any game releases, despite the fact that its a new system. That should speak volumes as to how ready Sony is to support it.
The economy isn't helping, but it is far from Sony's real issue.
I'm happy with my vita, LBP, PS Allstars, and even Ass Creed are all going to keep me happy with my vita past the pricepoint I payed.. so glad I have this system and so glad that everyone sees doom when it's just acting like the psp... oh yea, ps+ is applying to Vita games now.. Cant wait for the free vita games soon to follow, oh wait... already got those!
It needs more gimmicks!! Why doesn't it come with a head-strap so I can use my tongue as a controller??
It needs more AAA titles like Uncharted and LBPlanet downgraded to an inferior form on a handheld system!!
Console costing more than a modern home console hurts. Also the hideously priced memory card.
Also, Hush is an awesome villain!
Also, Hush is an awesome villain!
My feelings are split on this topic.
On the one hand, I feel sorry for Sony, because the Vita really is an impressive piece of handheld technologie.
On the other hand, it feels so good to see a former PSP systemseller exclusive (at the moment) on 3DS, after months, MONTHS of doom predictions for Nintendo.
Sony Fanboys, (not the normal fans, that appreciate Sony´s well made consoles and respect their high quality standards, I mean people that just like Sony) this is what you deserve.
On the one hand, I feel sorry for Sony, because the Vita really is an impressive piece of handheld technologie.
On the other hand, it feels so good to see a former PSP systemseller exclusive (at the moment) on 3DS, after months, MONTHS of doom predictions for Nintendo.
Sony Fanboys, (not the normal fans, that appreciate Sony´s well made consoles and respect their high quality standards, I mean people that just like Sony) this is what you deserve.
They'll be fine, they always are.
This is really left to a few things, though.
1) Its a lull because its the end of a console cycle. Everything about those numbers isn't just the Vita and PSP.
2) The Vita could be a little cheaper, at least by $50 on both versions. Or, Sony could do as retailers are doing, on a more permanent basis, and offer a free game or a memory card or something with it. And not a shit game either, something good like Gravity Rush (to take a note from Gamestop's book).
3) They need to get some high profile games out for it. Fuck all this talk of cross play and shit, yeah, its important to note it, but its not everything, if only because its taking away from the use of the Vita itself. But the Vita needs games people will say "Hey, I want that for that".
Gravity Rush is a great game, but it not high profile enough; not as a new IP trying to show what a console could do. THats why I say pack it in with the system full time, not so much because its a tech demo (Cause its not), but because its more-so what I call a gateway game. A game given to you to help you get your bearings with a system. Like Mario was for the NES. Its not so much of a draw that it'll make landmark sales.
This is really left to a few things, though.
1) Its a lull because its the end of a console cycle. Everything about those numbers isn't just the Vita and PSP.
2) The Vita could be a little cheaper, at least by $50 on both versions. Or, Sony could do as retailers are doing, on a more permanent basis, and offer a free game or a memory card or something with it. And not a shit game either, something good like Gravity Rush (to take a note from Gamestop's book).
3) They need to get some high profile games out for it. Fuck all this talk of cross play and shit, yeah, its important to note it, but its not everything, if only because its taking away from the use of the Vita itself. But the Vita needs games people will say "Hey, I want that for that".
Gravity Rush is a great game, but it not high profile enough; not as a new IP trying to show what a console could do. THats why I say pack it in with the system full time, not so much because its a tech demo (Cause its not), but because its more-so what I call a gateway game. A game given to you to help you get your bearings with a system. Like Mario was for the NES. Its not so much of a draw that it'll make landmark sales.
I know what would get me back on the Playstation bandwagon.
Fixing their store backend so you don't have to have some exotic credit card issued by an agency you've never heard of just so you don't have deal with Store cards. It's 2012, Sony. Get it together.
Fixing their store backend so you don't have to have some exotic credit card issued by an agency you've never heard of just so you don't have deal with Store cards. It's 2012, Sony. Get it together.
I love when Alan Argentina posts in a video game comments section. I at least know I won't be reading some videogame fanboy drivel backed by retarded consumer loyalty to a broken industry.
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@alan
The summer is a realitivly dead period for all gaming systems not just the vita. And like I said a huge launch and a few title after I'm the fist 7 months, that's unprecedented for any system, it even took the 3ds a year before they did anything significant. How anyone can call that unsupported? Hell there's more big releases coming before the years even out. and its all ( arguably) better than what's out on their competitors system. My 3ds has been sitting here for the longest with little I'm interested in on the horizon, ironically everything I want to play on a portable is coming out or is on the system I don't have.......yet.
The summer is a realitivly dead period for all gaming systems not just the vita. And like I said a huge launch and a few title after I'm the fist 7 months, that's unprecedented for any system, it even took the 3ds a year before they did anything significant. How anyone can call that unsupported? Hell there's more big releases coming before the years even out. and its all ( arguably) better than what's out on their competitors system. My 3ds has been sitting here for the longest with little I'm interested in on the horizon, ironically everything I want to play on a portable is coming out or is on the system I don't have.......yet.
Look at the list of games for the Vita from now to December... They are great new games coming up. The stores are selling the Vita and giving you a free game, Target has most of the games on sale. Gamestop has MK for 9.99 vita, you can preorder games for $30 at dealsea.com, I picked up MK and I do not have a vita. The only valid argument here would be the memory card and it is not such a valid argument because Digital vita games cost more than physical ones so most of us would never buy digital. The vita has more going on than the 3DS as far as games goes, I'm tired of the 100000000000000000000 Mario remake and the only game that I'm looking forward on the 3DS is the new Castlevania game and I hope to GOD that it gets a good review.
Look at the list of games for the Vita from now to December... They are great new games coming up. The stores are selling the Vita and giving you a free game, Target has most of the games on sale. Gamestop has MK for 9.99 vita, you can preorder games for $30 at dealsea.com, I picked up MK and I do not have a vita. The only valid argument here would be the memory card and it is not such a valid argument because Digital vita games cost more than physical ones so most of us would never buy digital. The vita has more going on than the 3DS as far as games goes, I'm tired of the 100000000000000000000 Mario remake and the only game that I'm looking forward on the 3DS is the new Castlevania game and I hope to GOD that it gets a good review.
Oh, Sony. You are truly the self-destructive teenager of the industry.
"Here's my new piece of shit. Buy it if you want, I guess. Games? What are you, stupid? Anyway, I'm gonna go cry in a corner if you need me. Which you obviously don't."
"Here's my new piece of shit. Buy it if you want, I guess. Games? What are you, stupid? Anyway, I'm gonna go cry in a corner if you need me. Which you obviously don't."
@Black Nexus
The summer is a lull, for sure, but the industry is in far more than just a summer lull, and no one disputes this.
The Vita is being called under supported because it is being under supported. As I've said, in the months of April, May, June, and July there were 10 out of 16 weeks where no games were released. None. Compare that to the 3DS' 1 week of nothing over the same time frame. To spin this as anything but a complete lack of support right now would be to ignore both common sense, and history. The PSP had this same issue throughout it's life.
And even, just disregard that bit where I tell you to compare the Vita to the 3DS. Comparing the two as though what has worked for one can work for the other is foolhardy. Nintendo has 20+ years of portable dominance backing it, Sony does not. I'm sure I could go look at the numbers and prove what you've said about the 3DS' first year wrong, but it'd be a moot point. Sony has never demonstrated and ability to bounce back like Nintendo has in this area.
With all respect to your personal preferences, the Vita is in a bad state right now, or at least certainly nowhere near where Sony wants and needs it to be. There is no one at Sony HQ saying "don't worry guys, the 3DS didn't do shit in its first year either".
@Usedtabe
Hahahaha, the Elder Tolds. That's going in my book of things to say from now on.
The summer is a lull, for sure, but the industry is in far more than just a summer lull, and no one disputes this.
The Vita is being called under supported because it is being under supported. As I've said, in the months of April, May, June, and July there were 10 out of 16 weeks where no games were released. None. Compare that to the 3DS' 1 week of nothing over the same time frame. To spin this as anything but a complete lack of support right now would be to ignore both common sense, and history. The PSP had this same issue throughout it's life.
And even, just disregard that bit where I tell you to compare the Vita to the 3DS. Comparing the two as though what has worked for one can work for the other is foolhardy. Nintendo has 20+ years of portable dominance backing it, Sony does not. I'm sure I could go look at the numbers and prove what you've said about the 3DS' first year wrong, but it'd be a moot point. Sony has never demonstrated and ability to bounce back like Nintendo has in this area.
With all respect to your personal preferences, the Vita is in a bad state right now, or at least certainly nowhere near where Sony wants and needs it to be. There is no one at Sony HQ saying "don't worry guys, the 3DS didn't do shit in its first year either".
@Usedtabe
Hahahaha, the Elder Tolds. That's going in my book of things to say from now on.
I think that this is just a case of Sony setting their expectations too high. I love my Vita, but as awesome as I think it is it was madness for anyone at Sony to think they'd sell 16 million of the things in the first year. Sony equipment doesn't have the same image as Nintendo's, and as far as I'm concerned they should keep it that way.
The DS, and the 3DS are toys. Gamers who like Nintendo's stuff will buy it, and mom and dad will buy it for the kids when they get an A on their test.
The only people buying the Vita are the gamers who want it. Sony could drop the price to below whatever a 3DS goes for right now, and the 3DS would probably still sell more. The Vita would still physically look more expensive. Not like a toy you buy the kids.
The DS, and the 3DS are toys. Gamers who like Nintendo's stuff will buy it, and mom and dad will buy it for the kids when they get an A on their test.
The only people buying the Vita are the gamers who want it. Sony could drop the price to below whatever a 3DS goes for right now, and the 3DS would probably still sell more. The Vita would still physically look more expensive. Not like a toy you buy the kids.
@LittleBigD: The 3DS is not more a toy than your precious Vita, thinking otherwise just shows that you were tricked by Sonys PR. Remember the 3DO commercial, which insulted the Genesis and Super Nintendo as Toys? Guess how that turned out :D !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j0ORcH-CV0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j0ORcH-CV0
Sure the psp has some good JPN localisations but wasn't the PSP most with parents buying them for their teenager children?
At that price and with the current world economy its not worth it for most parents who see it as an expensive toy
At that price and with the current world economy its not worth it for most parents who see it as an expensive toy
@orniletter
Are you blind man? The 3DS comes in multiple colours. Just about any colour a little boy or girl could ever want. Even a nice shiny pink! You can even get it bundled with the latest Petz game!! I bet you'd like a pink one wouldn't ya? Let's go get you a pink one!
I didn't say it was a toy, but there's no denying it sure looks like one.
Are you blind man? The 3DS comes in multiple colours. Just about any colour a little boy or girl could ever want. Even a nice shiny pink! You can even get it bundled with the latest Petz game!! I bet you'd like a pink one wouldn't ya? Let's go get you a pink one!
I didn't say it was a toy, but there's no denying it sure looks like one.
Oh shit...I did say it was a toy. Well fuck.....I meant to say the DS/3DS look like toys.
I'm an ass.
I'm an ass.
Vita, if you release a special edition bundle of Valkyria Chronicles 2 and 3 (with trophy support!) I promise to buy and make sweet love to you.
I'm with Alan. Sony seems to have it's head up its ass. Nintendo tried the same con with the 3DS but at least they were aware enough to realize that maybe people wouldn't buy their console without any games.
Had they come out with their top of the line system at $169, it would have smashed the shit out of Nintendo, even if they were selling at a loss per unit. Eventually they would have been producing a profit, much like Nintendo has managed to do with the 3DS. It would have come sooner, but they managed to let their pride get in the way of their management decisions.
Can it be the future yet? Where the indie community is in charge of the games, as opposed to publishers who think that it takes a new set of graphics to make a better game?
Can it be the future yet? Where the indie community is in charge of the games, as opposed to publishers who think that it takes a new set of graphics to make a better game?
How is the vita bringing nothing new to the table when it has more to offer then even the 3ds which the only thing it even has is 3d. The vita has games all you haters just wanna hate bcuz all you guys want is another COD how about you fukn b a gamer and actually try some of the other games and stop bitchn. the vita doesnt need a price drop just on there proprietary memory cards. Also Sony should just make it like sound shapes and battle royal where if you buy 1 you get it free on your ps3 aswell that sounds like a win-win to me especially for developers.
When they gunna fire Andy and get rid of his stupid magic book?
Problem number one solved. Get rid of that clown and focus on your hardware at hand like Microsoft is doing. With how little of a life cycle this console generation has left, they're upping the anti right now to maintain it as a valuable piece of hardware long after the new generation comes.
Problem number one solved. Get rid of that clown and focus on your hardware at hand like Microsoft is doing. With how little of a life cycle this console generation has left, they're upping the anti right now to maintain it as a valuable piece of hardware long after the new generation comes.
@usedtabe
So your able to copy and paste from from 4chan now, you have come a long way in fighting your disability, were all proud of you.
@alan
gravity rush, MK, Disgaea 3, these weren't there at launch and are kinda recent. There getting their own COD, assasins creed is coming in October, same playstation heroes is in the fall as well, there were a few more games at E3 I'm forgetting, and more from tgs. this is all before the first year of the systems life. The undersupported argument just doesn't hold water when the only thing backing it up is they were slow during the slow season.
So your able to copy and paste from from 4chan now, you have come a long way in fighting your disability, were all proud of you.
@alan
gravity rush, MK, Disgaea 3, these weren't there at launch and are kinda recent. There getting their own COD, assasins creed is coming in October, same playstation heroes is in the fall as well, there were a few more games at E3 I'm forgetting, and more from tgs. this is all before the first year of the systems life. The undersupported argument just doesn't hold water when the only thing backing it up is they were slow during the slow season.
As it is right now, the vita is crazy expensive. There's only one game I want (Persona 4). I wanna support the game, but can't get the system, so I'll just... buy the game, and wait until the Vita's price drops or I can get a used one.
You know, all you had to do Kaz was use SDHC and this shitstorm wouldn't have reached the point it did.
Oh, and the "3G" pitch went to hell the moment you dropped AT&T's name.
Oh, and the "3G" pitch went to hell the moment you dropped AT&T's name.
Sounds like they're pulling a Romney.....except hes actually been making money, tax free, for ten years.
Maybe they ought to get business tips from him.
Maybe they ought to get business tips from him.
The VITA is a good machine.......they just need to get rid of the 3G Model (I own one....the 3G is useless) and drop the price down to 175$.
But most of all they need to increase the release of new quality games.
I have averaged about a game a month purchased since i bought it.....as Mortal Kombat and Gravity Rush have been my most recent.
Dropping the price of the proprietary memory cards and putting in video out (like the ole PSP) would also help tremendously.
But most of all they need to increase the release of new quality games.
I have averaged about a game a month purchased since i bought it.....as Mortal Kombat and Gravity Rush have been my most recent.
Dropping the price of the proprietary memory cards and putting in video out (like the ole PSP) would also help tremendously.
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