lol... PS3 and their 5 good games.

hey when did you guys start putting the __ minutes ago at the end of the headline:

Dale North09.05.2008 10:40 (19 minutes ago)

I could have swore it wasn't there when I left for work this morning.

I love my PS3, I think t's line-up is kicking 360s arse this coming year...

Byrc, that's a shame, you must be the first guy I've heard complain of a dead PS3.

I agree that they are cutting prices too fast into it's life cycle, it makes me really feel that we will see the new xbox even quicker than we imagined.

On the price cut though, 200 for a console without a HDD, Wireless, Memory Card isn't really practical. Live is hands down Xbox's greatest feature and downloading videos, demos, additional content is impossible without a HDD. Even if the 200 bundle comes with a memory card, that will let you save some games, and maybe download 1 or 2 demos / xbla games. The 299 is the better choice I think, which makes it pretty comparable with the ps3 considering for 100 more (399) you get wifi, bigger hdd, bluray, and online is free. In the long run the PS3 is a good investment, because even if you purchase a cheap 360, you'll still be paying a few hundred extra just to get the stuff you need.

Hdd are not cheap, near a 100 for just measly 20 gigs, and their wifi adapter for some fucking reason costs 100 as well. Just with those two accessories catches you close to the ps3, at least in price, but you dont get a HD player.

Seriously, Holyetheline, you're gonna play the "not enough good games card", really only 5 good games? Lets say were only talking exclusives.

Uncharted
Warhawk
Metal Gear 4
Ratchet and Clank
Resistance
Disgaea 3
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Heavenly Sword

Not to mention several games coming out in the next few months (SOCOM, Little Big Planet). Along with the non exclusives, which most big titles are across both systems.

Puppy!!!!

Value? Sony has Value?

you won't have this value you speak of until you make all PS3's made in the future PS2 compatible.

at least the 360 is TRYING to make BC there...

they forgot to mention the 4D

Broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry? Tell me he didn't say that with a straight face.

They're not worried in Europe cause there's no Xbox 360 cuts here, they're all just as big rip off merchants here.

"the broadest and deepest software lineup in the industry, with LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Motorstorm.."

HAHAHAHANO

I have a PS3. I like it. I like it a lot. It has many games I like, I love the built in Bluray player, I prefer the controller, it feels like a higher quality piece of hardware, and I like the way the game cases look on my shelf.

It has no RPGs at the moment though... I'm going to buy a 360 soon to get my fix.

Love me some PS3, but even I know that price cuts make a difference. Wise is Microsoft.

Sony's situation is pretty much a total mess. It's not that they've done anything atrociously wrong or produced grossly inferior hard/software but they underestimated consumer cheapness and their competition. Given how much I love my PS2 I find it sad to see the PS3 floundering this badly but I was more sad to see the Gamecube floundering and the success of the Wii makes me more happy than PS3 success would.

gran turismo: not-nearly-finished-yet-logue
funran you mentioned a demo in ps3's list of 'awesome' games.

MS can afford price cuts since they'll just nickel-and-dime you with their online service. But I see Sony going for a price cut by Thanksgiving.

Oh and NHL 09 in 6 days!!! :D

I want God of War III and then I can die a happy man.

*ahem*

The US economy is not in recession. In fact the GDP grew 3.3% last quarter. Can we please stop this recession fear-mongering already? The only reason people keep trumpeting it is because this is an election year.

ADDENDUM: Bluray does look totally hot on my HDTV though :O

@max power
My wireless router and cable modem are by my PC, so it can plug in. It will take at least a hundred feet of cable to stay to the baseboards to go between there and the living room where my tv and consoles are located. While the PS3 and Wii (the WII has it) both wirelessly connect. The 360, even with its focus on online gaming and premium service, requires a cable where the other consoles do not? To really twist the knife, the adapter is the cost difference between a 360 pro and a 40(soon to be 80)GB PS3, which would be like getting a wireless adapter with a blu-ray addon taped to it for the 360.

Selling the adapter separately isn't that bad, but it shouldn't cost $100. Maybe $20. That's how much it cost me to buy a router, install DDWRT and have a wireless bridge with more functionality and I still think it should be in the box for $0.

@Trev

Fair enough. I absolutely agree that if Wifi is not included, it should at least be available at a reasonable price (which 100 €/$ is not). It's just that, maybe since I'm an old school PC nerd, I'd use an Ethernet cable anyway. Also, with the restrictions on Wifi power output in the EU (maybe just in Germany, I have no idea), in most cases it would be more problematic crossing three or four walls with Wifi than just drilling a few holes and setting up a cable link. Btw, another alternative would be powerline Ethernet, which is just around 30-40 bucks for up to 200 MBit/sec.

Bottom line is, for me personally the calculations regarding 360 and PS3 SKUs work out differently (and I suppose many potential customers share my rationale), as I don't need WiFi or Blu-Ray, for that matter. Consequentially, for me it's 250 Euro for a complete SKU, or 400 Euro for the competition. Most people I know that are on the fence about getting a HD console have similar reasoning.

The fact that we have to run a cable from the computer, all the way upstairs to the 360 is a pain in the ass, the PS3 just connects on it's own and so did the Wii before I axed it. The only time we even touch the 360 anymore is when someone gets an Oblivion itch. I'm not excited about Infinite Undiscovery because it looks like it's going to be a movie with intermittent interactive battles, and pretty much all the other games I want are multi-platform.

The ONLY downside is that one of my friends that I don't have the opportunity to talk to much in real life only uses xbox (that silly girl!) and sometimes I gotta jump on there to talk to her.

@rel123, fair enough Gran Turismo is just a demo, an exhaustive demo (that i dont really care about) but a lot of people do. Either way, my point is that even if you and me don't like all the same games, those games I listed are AAA titles, and the general population are going to enjoy them.

On the WiFi issue, I have a ps3 and i only use cat5, but the option should be there. Stupid little WiFi dongles at walmart cost like 20 bucks for a PC, why the hell can't Microsoft sell their dongle for 30, or even 40 not freaking 100 bucks. Same goes for their HDD, when I worked at gamestop (been a year) a 20 gig microsoft HDD cost 100 brand new, and was the only option. This might have changed since, but the fact is if you buy an Arcade 360, you're gonna need a HDD if you're a gamer. You'll miss out of xbox's most important features. Also wanting to mention that you can buy ANY laptop sized HDD off of newegg, wherever, and pop it into your ps3 and get as much HDD space as you want, and in general you could get a lot more gigs out of 100 if you went that route.

My problem with the Arcade is that it's now used to compare itself as the "lowest priced current gen console". When in reality buying that model will only cost you near the same amount as the 299. Most gamers are going to weigh the value they get in a system before buying it. How many people here want or have bought an Arcade bundle? Their aim is to the "non-gamer" crowd, this price drop is against the (now more expensive) Wii. I mean, Sony could release the "PS3 Arcade Pack" and take out the HDD, WiFi, keep the blu ray and sell it for 300 but why would anyone buy it? Paying 100 more gets you the full thing, and you dont have to worry about buying it later.

Except that the affordable model is a waste of any intelligent gamer's time

Too Much Coffee Man beat me to it. Although he did neglect to mention that pretty much every other significant economy around the world lost between 1% and 8% on their stock exchanges. Obviously this translates into less foreign investment and possibly withdrawal of some existing investment. The future isn't very certain right now for what this exactly means but no one with any sense is trying to burn though their life savings to capitalise on upcoming financial investments.

Also, a stand alone quarter doesn't mean anything at all. I'm pretty sure that America posted at least one positive quarter in the '30s.