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Sony invites Microsoft and Toshiba to come aboard the Good Ship Blu-ray photo

Okay, so there's no Good Ship Blu-ray, but Sony would love for you to believe that Blu-ray is a massive battleship that dominates the waters, stopping to offer assistance to the little wooden raft called HD DVD. It's not all that bad, but Sony Pictures VP Don Eklund couldn't help but throw a little jab. He invited Microsoft and Toshiba to the Blu-ray party in a recent interview, says Next-Gen.

"We would love to have Toshiba and Microsoft on board," said Eklund. "Toshiba can't keep dropping prices much more. It may be a strategy for fighting a format war, but for us it has to be profitable."

Eklund also throws up some defense for the "downloads are the future" attacks:

"People aren't interested in downloading videos at the moment," he said. "The internet is a good way of delivering music but not video. Blu-ray has a good 8 to 10 years before the internet catches up."

Sony, what if HD DVD is more like a submarine, with its torpedoes aimed right at you?

[Thanks, JV] 








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zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:17
zardoz
I think people who accuse Sony of being arrogant are clearly wrong.
ToeKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:23
ToeKing
Problem isn't lack of interest in downloading a movie, it's lack of speed. If the telcos would quit whoring and actually use some of the fiber that's laid out we could easily move to the preference of downloading movies... legally.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:24
BlindsideDork
haha profit! Didn't they just loose millions of dollars?
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:26
Justice
BURN!
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:27
Trev
Maybe it's like a submarine because it's sales are so low by comparison. Ba-dum tsh.

I can agree, in part, about the download thing though. Downloading high def video wouldn't be an on demand sort of thing. You could probably go rent a movie, watch and return it before the download finished.

I'd love to queue up stuff and save the hassle of having to go get it, but movie downloads are like netflix, you decide you want them later, not right now.
Myrmidon16's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:27
Myrmidon16
toshiba, ur gonna need sum ointment for that third degree burn.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:27
Neonie
Boom chukka boom boom.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:27
Namelessted
@brainderailment, why the hell would you need to download a 50GB file? Clearly you have no comprehension of compression. You do realize that even if you have a full 1080p 2 hour long movie, you could easily fit that into a 5GB or less, and even that is more than you really need. Unless you are trying to download an entire season of some show you wouldn't need a 50GB file.

And honestly, video download services are getting better all the time and it won't be too far off until they become popular. Already there are services that allow you to have full HD video and you can start watching the video as soon as it starts buffering. Stage6 is one example. Obviously they focus on free content but it wouldn't be too hard to modify it slightly and make is a monthly subscription or pay per movie to download it or streaming watch it.

pay-per-view has also been around for quite some time now and it can only become cheaper as technology advances, making accessible to more and more people.

I just think Sony should be careful, they haven't won any format war yet. blu-ray has taken a lead, but the PS3 is still selling much less than they had hoped.
mr geo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:31
mr geo
If the internet isn't ready for movies then why is my provider stopping the use of Torrents? If you scared go to church!
DGX Goggles's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:32
DGX Goggles
$ony should be more wary of HD-DVD, I would say it is more of a huge submarine loaded up with all sorts of WMDs aimed at the Blu-ray battleship.
Tull's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:36
Tull
Ahh Sony executives...they're the gift to reporters and bloggers who keep on giving.
DrXym's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:37
DrXym
HD DVD should just die already. It probably would if MS didn't keep propping it up to prolong a "format war" so they can drive business in the direction of their own DLC platform.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:39
Volomon
Lets pretend it is 5GB, and for some reason it was popular to download movies how fast do you think you would be downloading? There quite a few Internet services that throttle high speed connections that are linked to movie and music downloads, thats why quite a few services such as netflix go the stream route instead.

A 5GB on an average connection can take anywhere up to 3 or more days. Thats if your using your connection for other things as well. No ones going to fully dedicate their line to just one movie, thats crazy. Most likely after the first movie they will stop.

Its more than 5GB btw, the average hidef movie take up enough of a 25BD to only leave enough room for a standard def movie from what I hear, a standard def movie is around 700MBs. So thats a little more than 5GB, especially when you think about the extras.
iNerd's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:40
iNerd
Agreed, Kill HD DVD sooner rather than later and we can get on with our lives.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:44
Bob Muir
And Peter Moore said he wanted Mario on Xbox. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:49
BluDesign
Ted

high encoded MPEG4 takes up that much space. BR is using 50GB of data. I've seen stuff encoded at 15mb in HD and stuff encoded at 30Mb in HD. 30's better. By far.

I'd also like to point out too that USB connections don't support playing HD resolution video properly at high speeds. The 360 maxes out it's playback support of h264 based MPEG4 at 10Mbps, and it looks lousy when playing from an external drive. I have to copy my 10mbps content on my PS3 to the TINY internal drive to play it back. Even that's a pain in the ass, since a 5GB video file (about 30 minutes) takes around 10 minutes to copy over.

I'll stick with physical media. I also prefer the ability to do higher MPEG4 encoding with BluRay.
ShinAmano's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:54
ShinAmano
Have none of you watched HD movies on Xbox Live? You start the download and within 5minutes you can watch the movie without interruption...
RskimB's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:54
RskimB
the balls on those guys lol
Tempus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:56
Tempus
Woah, three days for 5gb? I do 15gb in just under 4hrs. Per night. The internets are more than fast enough and if I can say that here in the UK, then other countries (Korea anyone?) have faster connections than most placed in the developed world.

Still, it's amusing to think that just over ten years ago, 1.2gb hard drives were nearing high end. Nowadays you need a Terabyte drive to be considered 'High End'...
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 14:56
parrothead
I am not buying any movies on either format until I see who wins. Thank goodness I got 5 free Blu-Ray movies for buying my PS3. High quality films like the Guardian and Stealth!! Sadly no Talladega Nights....
Mike Maloney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:05
Mike Maloney
Wait, so people aren't ready for downloading movies, but they are ready for Blu-Ray?
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:09
kawitchate
i'm pullin' for blu-ray, since i gots me a PS3. that 2 more production companies signed up with HD-DVD just a few weeks ago does worry me a bit, but i still think blu-ray will win - and there IS still a need for hard copies of movies, same as there is still a need for hard copies for games. most people just want to own something physical. myself included.
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:11
zardoz
Well here we go again, yet another non gaming related article about Sony, I haven't been keeping a record, but Sony by far out number the other companies in terms of non gaming related articles. Does Sony even care about the videogame industry or are they trying to change this industry into a one size fits all mulimedia solution?
Tull's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:13
Tull
Blu-Ray, HD-DVD...this is the future of media storage.

http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertainment/hi-fi-and-audio/other-playback-and-recording-formats/news/how-to-fit-1tb-of-data-on-one-cd-sized-disc?articleid=1665250963&source=rss
Taicho's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:30
Taicho
@zardoz:

Blame the internets, more specifically, the people reporting these articles. The PS3 has a blu-ray drive so by default blu-ray articles are relevant. Forget the fact the PS2 had a DVD drive and it was treated seperately from DVD video, logic has no place here!
Justin Villasenor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:32
Justin Villasenor
That's pretty cool Tull.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:34
vexed alex
@Volomon: "A 5GB on an average connection can take anywhere up to 3 or more days."

I downloaded an HD movie from Live in a bit over half a day. So...hi.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:41
AngelsDontBurn
I'm so done with the format wars.
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:52
bhive01
If you read the end of your article Tull, it looks like it's one of those 3-5 year technologies that they haven't quite got down yet. They don't report how fast data can be read off of the disc. The report even says it still needs a lot of optimization.

Personally, I'm split. I bought a PS3 thinking at least a little bit that it would win the format war because of the greater backing. The moves of the movie companies in the past few weeks have made me question my decision at least a little bit more than I did before. There are a lot Universal movies and TV shows that I like. Big Lebowski and Heroes for starters.
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 15:58
lowercaseluke
There's still not enough discernible difference between DVD and either of these formats for me to give a crap about the 'format war'.

I still like VHS, goddamit.
rpbowlinggod's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 16:40
rpbowlinggod
this might be the same argument that vinyl record enthusiasts have with a cd/mp3 downloader. Will people start to think that because a downloaded version of "x" is better than the BR version (or DVD) because it has a higher technical standard? Actually owning a thing and being able to touch it spurns my collectors spirit.
akaryan18's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 16:45
akaryan18
I get all the movies I watch from the internets. (Only really great movies will I actually buy, or like seasons of some Tv shows) Torrent ftw!
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 17:13
B-Radicate
If people aren't ready to download movies for another 8 or 10 years, why is Sony prepping a digital download service for the PS3?

pwned.
Namelessted's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 17:17
Namelessted
Yeah, i can downoad 5GB of data in 2 hours easy.

as for dvddesigns comments. I understand where you are coming from. Yes, when you put video on a disc like bluray, you have 50GB of data. hooray for that. But on the same note, when a movie is put onto a DVD it is ofter 4GB or even 8GB of data. If you rip that dvd to your computer in an iso or vob then it will stay at that 4GB or 8GB but it is completely unnecessary. I can guarantee you that if you take a movie that is 2 hours long, rip it from a DVD into an avi that is 2GB in size, you will lose no video quality, at least not that I have ever noticed.

most pirated movies get pushed down to 700mb, the video quality on those files are noticeably lower in quality but I ofter download HDTV recordings of different shows. 30 minutes is often about 400mb and that is usually a 720i/p resolution. at that rate a 2 hour movie would be 1.6GB when encoded into an avi with Xvid.

I am just saying, downloaded movies are very possible if companies want them to be. The blu-ray format is wholly unnecessary and overcompensating for a movie disc format.
Xbudz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 17:19
Xbudz
TVersity.

Yeah it's a bit slow unless your PC is some godly multi-core thing... BUT IT WORKS!
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 17:20
Magesx
Bluray is so overcompensating, in fact, that movie studios continue to release movies on it.
uptonogood's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 18:06
uptonogood
i want to state that to everyone who thinks that 5 or 7 or 9 or whatever number of GB is "good enough" are being absolutely retarded. my preferred method of watching movies is blown up on a screen in an empty auditorium at night. DVD works but it's not good enough. the compression of a DVD is simply too much. hd dvd might be good enough but if a blu-ray can use up as much space on the disc for image, then by all means bring it on if it means a near theater experience. that's right, who needs a high def screen when you have a giant screen that fits in an auditorium?
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 18:54
Boolean
If people really gave a crap about quality over ease of access, there wouldn't be every episode of just about every tv show on YouTube.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 20:16
Sharpless
Yeah, Sony can pretty much suck on my barely-average-sized wiener. Arrogant SOBs. HD-DVD is the better format. Sony, in my opinion, is just going to choke on this one just like they did Betamax and MiniDiscs.

I'm sick of this nonsense, holmes.
Ghouls's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 20:48
Ghouls
Arent they still trying to finalize the specs for Blu-ray?
Reallynotnick's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 21:22
Reallynotnick
^Yep, good luck to all those saps that bought a v1 player because the new 1.1 players come out this year.

HD-DVD, for the win. Blu-Ray is just a waste of money.
Diomeneus's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 22:29
Diomeneus
That last line was golden! Gold I say!
TheExit's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/06/2007 23:16
TheExit
Blu-ray will probably end up going the way of umd disks. HD DVD is cheaper, easier to make and use, and the quality is great. If you took out all the PS3's and Xbox HD DVD players, HD DVD is actually selling more players then Blu-Ray.

HD DVD FTW!
questworld's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/07/2007 02:23
questworld
Isn't there a song about the "good ship Lifestyle?"
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