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This video with SCEA president Jack Tretton pretty much encompasses everything that is wrong with Sony this generation. It's like everyone knows the PS3 bombed, and they simply won't admit that things could have gone a little better. I suppose admitting you were wrong is like admitting you were wrong, but I think Microsoft has proved a little humility goes a LONG way with gamers.
 
Enjoy, or, you know... don't, if you invested in Sony stock this year.
 
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entropyman's Avatar
entropyman at 07/10/2007 02:08
I do appreciate Microsoft's support of the 360 as you mentioned- but I am still scared by the RROD and am still holding a wait-and-see attitude to see if they can pin the error down and fix it before things like SW unleashed and assassin's creed come out before I buy one
Reeper's Avatar
Reeper at 07/10/2007 02:15
sony?
failing?

when did this happen?
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar
ArrestedDeveloper at 07/10/2007 02:16
I'm just suprised a regular newsman actually sounded informed on the issue.
Seanus's Avatar
Seanus at 07/10/2007 02:17
Those worldwide sales a definitely on the mark. 0.o
Worldwide = America now?
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 02:17
Did ya watch the video Reeper?
Leon-G's Avatar
Leon-G at 07/10/2007 02:18
did the worldwide console sales info given in that segment seem a little low to anyone else?
Reeper's Avatar
Reeper at 07/10/2007 02:18
lol
no.

i knew they were failing. but the ps3 hit the 50,000 mark in australia, that must count for something :D
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taumpytears at 07/10/2007 02:21
Wow Sony FTL They better work magic at e3 or else Jack Tretton will be in his local unemployment office and Miyamoto will be Mrs. Tretton's new"Special Friend"
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 02:28
Via vgchartz:

Xbox 360

0.41m Japan
6.47m America
3.16m Others

10.04m

Nintendo Wii

2.91m Japan
3.57m America
2.42m Others

8.90m

Sony PS3

0.98m Japan
1.56m America
1.11m Others

3.66m
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 02:30
http://kotaku.com/gaming/so-dull/wii-outsells-ps3-6+to+1-in-japan-274121.php
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emotaku at 07/10/2007 02:31
@ArrestedDeveloper

Perhaps.. too informed.

Dun dun dun!
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DerfelCadarn at 07/10/2007 02:39
Mr. Haley.

Where is world-famous portmanteau?

:(
Ritalin Twitch's Avatar
Ritalin Twitch at 07/10/2007 02:42
I often wonder if Sonys dick is so far down Jacks throat he farts cum bubbles. It's a wonder they don't teach him to talk around it.

Sure, he's paid to be a corporate stooge, but there are times its like he's trying to convince us the flames coming out of the Hindenburg are a next generation fire production system.

Cant wait for the hardware failures that will inevitably come.
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 02:44
Awww, you remembered!

It begins again on this Friday and will never stop. Won't stop. Can't stop!
DerfelCadarn's Avatar
DerfelCadarn at 07/10/2007 02:47
Sweet. Sorry to hijack this comments section, but I've been on the lookout for it for some time. Good to hear it's not been eighty-sixed.
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Leon-G at 07/10/2007 02:47
Yes! Portmanteau. I thought you said it was going to happen on the friday of last week.. then I checked and it didnt. I was sad. Perhaps you could give us a start time?
Mxyzptlk's Avatar
Mxyzptlk at 07/10/2007 02:59
The honest answer is Jack Tretton won't give an honest answer to any legitimate, critical questions. Own up dude, the PS3 hasn't been doing as well as Sony would have liked. Then talk about what you'll be doing to change that in the future. That's all you have to do, not spew the same old marketing bullshit spin.
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Lord_Satorious at 07/10/2007 03:04
Ten year life cycle my ass. No console has a ten year life span. The PlayStation 2 was released in October 2000. I doubt it will see any support past this year. That's seven years. By this guy's reasoning, the PlayStation 2 is viable another three years from now. The original PlayStation may have enjoyed a long production run (note: that's just how long Sony was making the things), but quite frankly, that will not happen with the PS2.

You want to know how long this generation will last? Until the first competitor releases their new system. Then give a year for the other two companies to finalize development and push out their systems.

Sony keeps mentioning how successful the PlayStation 2 was, like that matters at all with the PlayStation 3. Nintendo was king until Sega released the Genesis which was put Nintendo in second place until the Saturn got its ass kicked by the PlayStation. I won't even mention the poor Dreamcast, or how Atari screwed up every business decision they ever made. Who was in the lead last generation has no bearing on the current generation, video game history tells us that much.
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Vigor at 07/10/2007 03:06
"Why? thats what im asking."
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0bshaky at 07/10/2007 03:17
"MOOOOM LOOK! The PS3 is $100 cheaper!! Can you please buy me one?"
"Shut up and pay your Wii... And let me know when you are done cause I want to play bowling."

Damn that reporter was truly informed!! When he pointed the losses Sony was having I was looking at Trettons neck and see if he was going *GULP!* on that one!! Good his ass was tight enough to give the "WE ARE WIN!" talk back.

Still $499 dont justify the PS3 right now. In maybe a year is plausible. But right now? Nah. Inflation is a bitch and $399 is the sacred price point for at least 5 more years.
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Farktoid at 07/10/2007 03:19
Mr. Tretton tosses out at the end that the PS3 is still dominant. No, Mr. Tretton, your hardware is not dominant and until you can further drop the price and offer GAMES PEOPLE WANT, Sony will continue to lose piles of cash on your product.

I want only the best for Sony. Not a fanboy, I own a 360 and a Wii, but Sony put out some absolutely incredible games on the PS2, and the demise of Sony would kill that library.

Then again, maybe Sony could go Sega's route and just sell software for other consoles. It seems to be going fairly well for them, if we go ahead and forget Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 360.

Huh. I guess that's why I'm not President of my company. I just can't spin things as eloquently as others. Good night, funnyman.
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 03:25
Leon and Derfel, actually I have E3 this week so if not Friday then Saturday for sure. Maybe I will get some ridiculous swag to throw in as prizes...
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uptonogood at 07/10/2007 03:25
oh no when will the games come?!

you people and your continued begging of games. we know that they have a slate of games coming in the fall. in the mean time, the sky continues to fall.

from a marketing standpoint, they have nothing to fess up to. it is not in their best interest to admit that their launch was not the bee's knees. no corporation would admit that -- because it wasn't a failure -- it just didn't meet expectations of many.

before the microsoft PR thing comes up, that was MS covering their ass to avoid a class-action which would probably have cost less than a billion in the immediate settlement but would have cost a lot of customers than what they're bleeding right now.
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RJG at 07/10/2007 03:27
And when Nintendo releases an even more powerful completely backwards compatible Wii in a couple of years, I'm sure Sony will be sitting on top since it's only half way into its product's ten year life cycle...right?

Right guys?

...guys...?
Otsegowupiwupi's Avatar
Otsegowupiwupi at 07/10/2007 03:34
god, i hate sony
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Otsegowupiwupi at 07/10/2007 03:34
correction: i hate sony's gaming division (and betamax and UMD and Blu-ray)
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Ritalin Twitch at 07/10/2007 03:37
@Otsegowupiwupi

Feel free to add minidisc to that list for me!
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ExceptionOE at 07/10/2007 03:39
Worldwide = America?

America does realise that the world outside of it isn't some barron landscape populated only by hicks living in mudhuts doesn't it?
Brock_Dainjer's Avatar
Brock_Dainjer at 07/10/2007 03:52
They got mudhuts now? Thought they were still living in caves.
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Xbudz at 07/10/2007 04:10
I also think it was pretty refreshing to see a news anchor actually know something about gaming.
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mrsamuel at 07/10/2007 04:12
Complete fail, Jack.

But then, he's a marketing guy, right? What are the chances you're going to get straight up public statements from somebody in that field?
XeroxMe's Avatar
XeroxMe at 07/10/2007 04:52
Wow he really went into that unprepared. Poor Sony.
William Haley's Avatar
William Haley at 07/10/2007 05:08
MrSamuel, he's actually the president of SCEA.

That's the guy behind the guy behind the guy.
Tron Knotts's Avatar
Tron Knotts at 07/10/2007 05:54
I hate all suits, but the suits at Sony are the worst.

I wonder if that guy has even played a PS3 game for more than 5 minutes.
tkyy's Avatar
tkyy at 07/10/2007 06:03
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar
tkyy at 07/10/2007 06:03
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar
tkyy at 07/10/2007 06:03
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar
tkyy at 07/10/2007 06:05
Opps... Sorry for the mutiple comment...
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HarassmentPanda at 07/10/2007 06:08
Not a PS3 fan by any means, but I think he handled himself rather well. He was getting slammed in that interview and he did a pretty respectable job spinning it the best that he could.

That said, I'm certainly not dropping a dime on a PS3.
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crizz at 07/10/2007 06:26
The best way to avoid answering a question is to repeat the same shit over and over again.

Way to go, Jack.
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Tron Knotts at 07/10/2007 06:27
Here is what the reporter should have said-

"But the PS2 only did so well because it cost the same as the other guys, offered DVD movie playback which was what everyone wanted at the time, and had at least a few good games! The PS3 has the Blu-Rays, and that's it! What you gonna do to step up on this one?"

To which the Sony guy would reply-

"Well, we are going to release a $200 PS3 with 512mb flash disk space, a motion sensing/laser pointer controller, no Blu-Ray movie playback, and at least five good games. We will due this immediately".

Then he'd dissapear in a ninja smoke bomb.

I would have personally paid for three $1000 hookers for the Sony guy, sent by private jet, if he had done so.

But as it stands, he was just like "Dur... we are teh rox with domination...durrrr..."

synce's Avatar
synce at 07/10/2007 06:27
I just want Sony to admit they made a huge mistake by bundling in the Blu-ray drive. If only they took Microsoft's add-on strategy I'm sure Sony would still be on top. Oh well, I win either way since I have both consoles!
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infinity at 07/10/2007 06:34
@tkyy

reminds me of 599 US DOLLARS 599 US DOLLARS 599 US DOLLARS, but i guess that's not really valid anymore.

back on topic though, it's not just humility that goes a long way--it's realism. maybe if these execs would quit talking like they live in a fantasy world where "in last place" means "dominating", gamers would actually respect their opinions.
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uptonogood at 07/10/2007 06:45
i can't emphasize enough how much blu-ray inclusion wasn't a mistake. yes it probably tacked on an extra two hundred to the base price but then again, it wasn't the specifically the gaming market sony as a whole was aiming for. they know the ps3 will sell even if the rate of sales aren't what they were expecting. but let's take a gander of the potential of future movie sales on HD.

the united states congress is in part to blame for sony even including a blu-ray drive into their machines -- all broadcasts will convert to HD broadcast standards.

now that means that all major hardware manufacturers will see an uptake of HDTVs. all content providers will have to deliver their content on HD media. that is why we have hd-dvd and blu-ray.

if you didn't know, the most lucrative aspect of next-gen dvds are the royalties from individual discs sold as well as every machine built.

sony, aside from a hardware provider, is also a content provider. it is in their vested interest to include the blu-ray into the ps3 knowing full well that it was a foot (albeit a massive foot) in door to the HD market. they sell HDTVs AND next gen DVD. how would it make sense to not include the blu-ray?

i wouldn't feel too bad about toshiba if they lose the dvd war -- they still co-developed the cell processor and makes money off of the ps3 regardless of which medium is adopted by the masses.
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whackmushrooms at 07/10/2007 07:33
personally im loving my blu-ray drive .. but i guess thats all most people have to bitch about now since the games are coming out, the price has dropped and network upgrades are imminent.

oh wait .. there will be no ps2 chip in the 80gb ps3 .. OMG OMG lets hit that one to death .. fuck all of this im going to go play some games ;) you all have fun.
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Johnny Blaze at 07/10/2007 07:34
That News Reporter knows his shit considering he does his own E3 Report live on MSNBC.. He seems to get straight to the point.. last year around this time he was all about sony and Xbox Grpahics and saying how this is the future of gaming .. Till he got a Wiimote in his hand and his whole story started to change.. but he still kept things respectable .. He seems to be very up to date with the video game Industry... Maybe he is a OLd school gamer.. He did a great job...
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908peruvian at 07/10/2007 09:58
PLEASE DESTRUCTOID CREW...
PUT UP A 10 YEAR PS3 PRODUCT LIFE CYCLE CLOCK !! TODAY!!
ITS A MUST !!

they keep throwing that little phrase out there...

10 YEAR LIFE SPAN =
HAHAHAHA

10 MILLION PS3'S SOLD THIS YEAR =
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

100 GAMES BY THE END OF THE YEAR =
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

PS3 IS STILL DOMINATING.
(THIS IS WHERE I START CRYING)
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maxx77 at 07/10/2007 10:18
We're still dominating, my mommy said so!
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jerrt at 07/10/2007 11:21
that is why everyone should just listen to phil harrison.

but really where is the fine line between feeling confident in your product and possibly lying? i think he is just doing his job supporting what provides him with a paycheck. could anyone put yourself in his shoes? what if you bosses told you to go out and do that at his salary? i think sometimes people don't take the tougher questions into consideration.
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ConsummateK at 07/10/2007 11:38
Awesome. Swingers. Reference.
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