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This video with SCEA president Jack Tretton pretty much encompasses everything that is wrong with Sony this generation. It's like everyone knows the PS3 bombed, and they simply won't admit that things could have gone a little better. I suppose admitting you were wrong is like admitting you were wrong, but I think Microsoft has proved a little humility goes a LONG way with gamers.
 
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entropyman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:08
entropyman
I do appreciate Microsoft's support of the 360 as you mentioned- but I am still scared by the RROD and am still holding a wait-and-see attitude to see if they can pin the error down and fix it before things like SW unleashed and assassin's creed come out before I buy one
Reeper's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:15
Reeper
sony?
failing?

when did this happen?
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:16
ArrestedDeveloper
I'm just suprised a regular newsman actually sounded informed on the issue.
Seanus's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:17
Seanus
Those worldwide sales a definitely on the mark. 0.o
Worldwide = America now?
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:17
William Haley
Did ya watch the video Reeper?
Leon-G's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:18
Leon-G
did the worldwide console sales info given in that segment seem a little low to anyone else?
Reeper's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:18
Reeper
lol
no.

i knew they were failing. but the ps3 hit the 50,000 mark in australia, that must count for something :D
taumpytears's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:21
taumpytears
Wow Sony FTL They better work magic at e3 or else Jack Tretton will be in his local unemployment office and Miyamoto will be Mrs. Tretton's new"Special Friend"
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:28
William Haley
Via vgchartz:

Xbox 360

0.41m Japan
6.47m America
3.16m Others

10.04m

Nintendo Wii

2.91m Japan
3.57m America
2.42m Others

8.90m

Sony PS3

0.98m Japan
1.56m America
1.11m Others

3.66m
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:30
William Haley
http://kotaku.com/gaming/so-dull/wii-outsells-ps3-6+to+1-in-japan-274121.php
emotaku's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:31
emotaku
@ArrestedDeveloper

Perhaps.. too informed.

Dun dun dun!
DerfelCadarn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:39
DerfelCadarn
Mr. Haley.

Where is world-famous portmanteau?

:(
Ritalin Twitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:42
Ritalin Twitch
I often wonder if Sonys dick is so far down Jacks throat he farts cum bubbles. It's a wonder they don't teach him to talk around it.

Sure, he's paid to be a corporate stooge, but there are times its like he's trying to convince us the flames coming out of the Hindenburg are a next generation fire production system.

Cant wait for the hardware failures that will inevitably come.
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:44
William Haley
Awww, you remembered!

It begins again on this Friday and will never stop. Won't stop. Can't stop!
DerfelCadarn's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:47
DerfelCadarn
Sweet. Sorry to hijack this comments section, but I've been on the lookout for it for some time. Good to hear it's not been eighty-sixed.
Leon-G's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:47
Leon-G
Yes! Portmanteau. I thought you said it was going to happen on the friday of last week.. then I checked and it didnt. I was sad. Perhaps you could give us a start time?
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 02:59
Mxyzptlk
The honest answer is Jack Tretton won't give an honest answer to any legitimate, critical questions. Own up dude, the PS3 hasn't been doing as well as Sony would have liked. Then talk about what you'll be doing to change that in the future. That's all you have to do, not spew the same old marketing bullshit spin.
Lord_Satorious's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:04
Lord_Satorious
Ten year life cycle my ass. No console has a ten year life span. The PlayStation 2 was released in October 2000. I doubt it will see any support past this year. That's seven years. By this guy's reasoning, the PlayStation 2 is viable another three years from now. The original PlayStation may have enjoyed a long production run (note: that's just how long Sony was making the things), but quite frankly, that will not happen with the PS2.

You want to know how long this generation will last? Until the first competitor releases their new system. Then give a year for the other two companies to finalize development and push out their systems.

Sony keeps mentioning how successful the PlayStation 2 was, like that matters at all with the PlayStation 3. Nintendo was king until Sega released the Genesis which was put Nintendo in second place until the Saturn got its ass kicked by the PlayStation. I won't even mention the poor Dreamcast, or how Atari screwed up every business decision they ever made. Who was in the lead last generation has no bearing on the current generation, video game history tells us that much.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:06
Vigor
"Why? thats what im asking."
0bshaky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:17
0bshaky
"MOOOOM LOOK! The PS3 is $100 cheaper!! Can you please buy me one?"
"Shut up and pay your Wii... And let me know when you are done cause I want to play bowling."

Damn that reporter was truly informed!! When he pointed the losses Sony was having I was looking at Trettons neck and see if he was going *GULP!* on that one!! Good his ass was tight enough to give the "WE ARE WIN!" talk back.

Still $499 dont justify the PS3 right now. In maybe a year is plausible. But right now? Nah. Inflation is a bitch and $399 is the sacred price point for at least 5 more years.
Farktoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:19
Farktoid
Mr. Tretton tosses out at the end that the PS3 is still dominant. No, Mr. Tretton, your hardware is not dominant and until you can further drop the price and offer GAMES PEOPLE WANT, Sony will continue to lose piles of cash on your product.

I want only the best for Sony. Not a fanboy, I own a 360 and a Wii, but Sony put out some absolutely incredible games on the PS2, and the demise of Sony would kill that library.

Then again, maybe Sony could go Sega's route and just sell software for other consoles. It seems to be going fairly well for them, if we go ahead and forget Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 360.

Huh. I guess that's why I'm not President of my company. I just can't spin things as eloquently as others. Good night, funnyman.
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:25
William Haley
Leon and Derfel, actually I have E3 this week so if not Friday then Saturday for sure. Maybe I will get some ridiculous swag to throw in as prizes...
uptonogood's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:25
uptonogood
oh no when will the games come?!

you people and your continued begging of games. we know that they have a slate of games coming in the fall. in the mean time, the sky continues to fall.

from a marketing standpoint, they have nothing to fess up to. it is not in their best interest to admit that their launch was not the bee's knees. no corporation would admit that -- because it wasn't a failure -- it just didn't meet expectations of many.

before the microsoft PR thing comes up, that was MS covering their ass to avoid a class-action which would probably have cost less than a billion in the immediate settlement but would have cost a lot of customers than what they're bleeding right now.
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:27
RJG
And when Nintendo releases an even more powerful completely backwards compatible Wii in a couple of years, I'm sure Sony will be sitting on top since it's only half way into its product's ten year life cycle...right?

Right guys?

...guys...?
Otsegowupiwupi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:34
Otsegowupiwupi
god, i hate sony
Otsegowupiwupi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:34
Otsegowupiwupi
correction: i hate sony's gaming division (and betamax and UMD and Blu-ray)
Ritalin Twitch's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:37
Ritalin Twitch
@Otsegowupiwupi

Feel free to add minidisc to that list for me!
ExceptionOE's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:39
ExceptionOE
Worldwide = America?

America does realise that the world outside of it isn't some barron landscape populated only by hicks living in mudhuts doesn't it?
Brock_Dainjer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 03:52
Brock_Dainjer
They got mudhuts now? Thought they were still living in caves.
Xbudz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 04:10
Xbudz
I also think it was pretty refreshing to see a news anchor actually know something about gaming.
mrsamuel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 04:12
mrsamuel
Complete fail, Jack.

But then, he's a marketing guy, right? What are the chances you're going to get straight up public statements from somebody in that field?
XeroxMe's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 04:52
XeroxMe
Wow he really went into that unprepared. Poor Sony.
William Haley's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 05:08
William Haley
MrSamuel, he's actually the president of SCEA.

That's the guy behind the guy behind the guy.
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 05:54
Tron Knotts
I hate all suits, but the suits at Sony are the worst.

I wonder if that guy has even played a PS3 game for more than 5 minutes.
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:03
tkyy
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:03
tkyy
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:03
tkyy
"We are still Dominating"
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:05
tkyy
Opps... Sorry for the mutiple comment...
HarassmentPanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:08
HarassmentPanda
Not a PS3 fan by any means, but I think he handled himself rather well. He was getting slammed in that interview and he did a pretty respectable job spinning it the best that he could.

That said, I'm certainly not dropping a dime on a PS3.
crizz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:26
crizz
The best way to avoid answering a question is to repeat the same shit over and over again.

Way to go, Jack.
Tron Knotts's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:27
Tron Knotts
Here is what the reporter should have said-

"But the PS2 only did so well because it cost the same as the other guys, offered DVD movie playback which was what everyone wanted at the time, and had at least a few good games! The PS3 has the Blu-Rays, and that's it! What you gonna do to step up on this one?"

To which the Sony guy would reply-

"Well, we are going to release a $200 PS3 with 512mb flash disk space, a motion sensing/laser pointer controller, no Blu-Ray movie playback, and at least five good games. We will due this immediately".

Then he'd dissapear in a ninja smoke bomb.

I would have personally paid for three $1000 hookers for the Sony guy, sent by private jet, if he had done so.

But as it stands, he was just like "Dur... we are teh rox with domination...durrrr..."

synce's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:27
synce
I just want Sony to admit they made a huge mistake by bundling in the Blu-ray drive. If only they took Microsoft's add-on strategy I'm sure Sony would still be on top. Oh well, I win either way since I have both consoles!
infinity's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:34
infinity
@tkyy

reminds me of 599 US DOLLARS 599 US DOLLARS 599 US DOLLARS, but i guess that's not really valid anymore.

back on topic though, it's not just humility that goes a long way--it's realism. maybe if these execs would quit talking like they live in a fantasy world where "in last place" means "dominating", gamers would actually respect their opinions.
uptonogood's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 06:45
uptonogood
i can't emphasize enough how much blu-ray inclusion wasn't a mistake. yes it probably tacked on an extra two hundred to the base price but then again, it wasn't the specifically the gaming market sony as a whole was aiming for. they know the ps3 will sell even if the rate of sales aren't what they were expecting. but let's take a gander of the potential of future movie sales on HD.

the united states congress is in part to blame for sony even including a blu-ray drive into their machines -- all broadcasts will convert to HD broadcast standards.

now that means that all major hardware manufacturers will see an uptake of HDTVs. all content providers will have to deliver their content on HD media. that is why we have hd-dvd and blu-ray.

if you didn't know, the most lucrative aspect of next-gen dvds are the royalties from individual discs sold as well as every machine built.

sony, aside from a hardware provider, is also a content provider. it is in their vested interest to include the blu-ray into the ps3 knowing full well that it was a foot (albeit a massive foot) in door to the HD market. they sell HDTVs AND next gen DVD. how would it make sense to not include the blu-ray?

i wouldn't feel too bad about toshiba if they lose the dvd war -- they still co-developed the cell processor and makes money off of the ps3 regardless of which medium is adopted by the masses.
whackmushrooms's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 07:33
whackmushrooms
personally im loving my blu-ray drive .. but i guess thats all most people have to bitch about now since the games are coming out, the price has dropped and network upgrades are imminent.

oh wait .. there will be no ps2 chip in the 80gb ps3 .. OMG OMG lets hit that one to death .. fuck all of this im going to go play some games ;) you all have fun.
Johnny Blaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 07:34
Johnny Blaze
That News Reporter knows his shit considering he does his own E3 Report live on MSNBC.. He seems to get straight to the point.. last year around this time he was all about sony and Xbox Grpahics and saying how this is the future of gaming .. Till he got a Wiimote in his hand and his whole story started to change.. but he still kept things respectable .. He seems to be very up to date with the video game Industry... Maybe he is a OLd school gamer.. He did a great job...
908peruvian's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 09:58
908peruvian
PLEASE DESTRUCTOID CREW...
PUT UP A 10 YEAR PS3 PRODUCT LIFE CYCLE CLOCK !! TODAY!!
ITS A MUST !!

they keep throwing that little phrase out there...

10 YEAR LIFE SPAN =
HAHAHAHA

10 MILLION PS3'S SOLD THIS YEAR =
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

100 GAMES BY THE END OF THE YEAR =
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

PS3 IS STILL DOMINATING.
(THIS IS WHERE I START CRYING)
maxx77's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 10:18
maxx77
We're still dominating, my mommy said so!
jerrt's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 11:21
jerrt
that is why everyone should just listen to phil harrison.

but really where is the fine line between feeling confident in your product and possibly lying? i think he is just doing his job supporting what provides him with a paycheck. could anyone put yourself in his shoes? what if you bosses told you to go out and do that at his salary? i think sometimes people don't take the tougher questions into consideration.
ConsummateK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2007 11:38
ConsummateK
Awesome. Swingers. Reference.
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