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Sony: Heavy Rain will sell well, is totally unique photo

SCEA president Jack Tretton believes Heavy Rain will sell very well indeed. He also believes that Heavy Rain is completely new and unique, so maybe his opinions shouldn't be taken completely to heart. 

"I spent 25 years in this industry, and it’s rare you see a game that sells incredibly well and that impresses you," claims the Sony Lord. "But when you go, ‘Wow! That’s the type of game I’ve never seen before!’ And I think Heavy Rain falls into that category. I don’t even now how to classify it or describe it. I read a review that said it’s the next stage of reading the book. You don’t have to be a gamer at all. I think if you read a book, unless you read the chapters in reverse order, the story is pretty much going to be the same.

"But with Heavy Rain, depending on what you do, you are going to get a different outcome every time."

Considering online reactions to Heavy Rain since launch have been very mixed, I don't think Sony needs to add to the overhyping. Quite a few people have felt quite burned enough already. Not to mention, Heavy Rain is not that new at all, nor is it unique. Dragon's Lair was doing that stuff years ago, and with much better writing, I might add.

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Jamie McGinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:04
Jamie McGinn
I'm probably going to pick this up tomorrow, I'm kinda going into it without any expectations, I hope that way I'll get the best out of it.

ALSO APPARENTLY THERE ARE TITS IN THIS GAME!
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:06
Sexualchocolate
i read this and thought: "Jim, this has Jim written ALL OVER IT, must be Jim"

Scroled up and sure enough it was Jimbo.
Keep fueling the Sony hate train Jimbo.

I just picked up Heavy Rain and Aliens vs Predator at lunchtime (traded in Modern Borefare 2) - suffice to say had trouble getting into a species deathmatch before playing a bit of survival. looking forward to getting stuck into Heavy Rain after work.

i't snot really unlike anything we've ever played before, if we've played Farenheight.
Toadofsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:10
Toadofsky
Hate to see the game flop, but I can't shake the feeling that it won't sell as mch as they want it to.
NEXSUS's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:11
NEXSUS
The troll strikes again
Prince Ghidorah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:13
Prince Ghidorah
Yes, Sony Lord, each stage is like reading a book (only with a lot more random button mashing). A shitty potboiler paperback book that you buy at the airport and read on the plane because you forgot to pack your DS.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:13
shinryu
actually Lucasarts set the gold standard for this sort of thing ages ago. But mixed reactions? The game's a 90% on gamerankings.
xibalba's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:13
xibalba
I agree with Jim the hype train for this game was just to much. Having put about 40 min into it I have gotten tired of playing finger twister with the controller and preforming every mundane task. Im surprised there wasn't a driving minigame after you pick your kid up from school. I am however still holding some reservation of hope that i will be able to salvage something positive out of this game.
Vargas's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:13
Vargas
"Considering online reactions to Heavy Rain since launch have been very mixed"

What? Very mixed?
Okay then Jim...
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:15
Xzyliac
I highly doubt it'll sell very well but it definitely does have an audience myself included.
barnabyjones's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:18
barnabyjones
Word, I beat Heavy Rain and craigslisted it last night for $55. It wasn't a bad five dollar rental, and now that I made my money back it was alright, but that game was absolutely nothing to write home about.

My basic problem with Heavy Rain is that it's founded on the idea that movies are more immersive than games and it just comes off as this pretentious crap aimed at educating gamers about what 'real' stories are. I don't mean to go all JRPG-er here...but subtlety would have done wonders for Heavy Rain, particularly in the Emo Ethan sections.

And if you haven't played through the mansion level as Scott Shelby yet, look at the dead henchman on the right side of the screen as your character exits - midair glitch ftw.
dip's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:21
dip
lol, very mixed reactions. Jim is full of shit, as usual.
GiftofGab's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:22
GiftofGab
With Indigo prophecy out, you couldn't say that it was totally unique. But while "quite a few people have been burned already", around the same amount of people have said that they liked the game, hence the words "mixed reactions". I just don't feel like the hyping that they are doing for the game is like how they did for dante's inferno, where you know that they were hyping it because they knew that at the core of the game it was good, but a huge god of war clone.
SR388's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:23
SR388
I am actually really enjoying the game so far, despite what Jim did not like about the game.

I feel as though it is selling pretty well as we were clean sold out at the store I work at. We also had several people coming in and asking about the game.
xibalba's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:26
xibalba
@SR388 my friend that manages a Gamestop said it was selling quite will too. I dunno if they sold out but he said that he sold more copies than expected.
framesbond's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:28
framesbond
am I the only one who remembers choose your own advnture books.
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:31
Ganjookie
Im probably never going to pick up this shite
beastrn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:35
beastrn
Let's be completely honest - no matter if you actually like Heavy Rain or not you wouldn't admit that you did, Sterling. Your try-hard 'hate anything that intelligent people like' principle is plebeian and predictable.

If you took a break from desperately trying to undermine the opinions of people with far more experience than you you'd probably end up enjoying the fuck out of all the games you pay out.
Carl1412's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:37
Carl1412
Well Jim, after finishing it yesterday, i can safely say i have no idea where you found this "bad writing." Or, really, any bad impressions at all
ThrashingLimbsEd's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:40
ThrashingLimbsEd
88 on metacritic = very good

This is all I care about. Even if this isn't all it was hyped up to be it's still a developped taking a huuuuuge risk and doing something that while it may not be new it certainly has not been done this generation with this budget.
MaximusPaynicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:41
MaximusPaynicus
@beastrn

I would argue that intelligent people would quickly see through the gaping plot holes.
Robbo the hood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:51
Robbo the hood
I'm gonna call Jim out on this one, the reviews are glowing for the most part and I wouldn't call that mixed. On the other hand, there are some concerns that Jim had with the game that I'm definitely experiencing myself, ones that the good reviews are simply lying about.

The voice acting is not good. It isn't laughably terrible, but is consistently jarring, stilted, awkward and detached from the game situation.

The animations are good in some places, pretty bad in others. Intimacy looks particularly bad and when everything is completely scripted it is inexcusable.

I really like the music, and I'm enjoying the interaction to this point, but even so early on many actions are occurring often enough that they will become repetitive and boring soon.

*SPOILER ALERT* - It really seemed like Ethan got hit by that car and not Jason.



@barnabyjones

If Heavy Rain were to go all JRPG, it wouldn't become a subtle masterpiece. Instead of being blunt and mundane, it would become blunt and bombastic. The subdued story portrays depressed Ethan much more convincingly than pretty much every fumbling RPG, which expect complex emotional responses to sterile exposition and telegraphed, outrageous, Michael Bay style (COLOURS! ACTION! NOW YOU FEEL SAD!) plot twists.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:51
Sexualchocolate
Jim = pleb.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:51
The Silent Protagonist
/looks up from Miles Edgeworth on DS

/goes back to playing the blatantly better Miles Edgeworth
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:53
JustLikeBuck
Mixed reactions? 7/74 critical reviews on Metacritic are below 80%, hardly mixed. Unless you're talking about people who's opinions don't matter?
Genebeef's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:55
Genebeef
tretton sure likes to equivocate unique with "good". it's uniquely noninteractive and full of holes with shitty voice acting. the climax or reveal of the killer is just atrocious to story telling.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:57
JACK of No Trades
Im really enjoying Heavy Rain. Its a very unique experience that deserves praise and should sell well.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 08:59
Sexualchocolate
What Jim means by mixed reactions is...

"Most people thought it was pretty damn good, an interesting title to have in your game collection, but I thought it was wank because Sony are hyping it and I'm KING OF THE TROLLS!"

Can someone just give Jim some fucking charity $'s because he always posts a metric-fucktonne of flaimbait whenever he's a bit hard up and needs to boost his income.

Needz moar gunz and homo-erotic spayse armourz!!!!!111!!ONE!
Czech Monster's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:02
Czech Monster
The walking mechanic is awkward (R2 plus thumb stick), it is hard to control and I keep getting stuck on shit. Otherwise the game was a good rental.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:03
Br0th3rGr1mm
Despite whether the game is actually good or not, touting that it's something that's never been done before and being totally unique is total horse shyte. Jim's point about this being over-hyped crap speweing from a corprate talking head is spot on. His claim that the game is getting mixed reviews....not so much (but I do agree that it's over rated, but only because I despise game that have ZERO replay value).
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:06
shinryu
the walking controls work much better if you hold the l-stick as well and move it slightly when you need to change direction. if you think that kills the purpose of having an extra button for walking, the point is that you know you're always walking forward just by pressing the button, regardless of the camera changes.
yatzze's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:06
yatzze
is that Jacob kid RETARDED? seriously, I dont know. Maybe hes from a different country?
Xonticus's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:07
Xonticus
"Carl1412
Well Jim, after finishing it yesterday, i can safely say i have no idea where you found this "bad writing." Or, really, any bad impressions at all"

I have to agree on this one. The first half hour or so grabbed me an introduced me to the mechanics of the game, and it just kept getting better from there. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I can safely say that I will play this game at least 5 more times within the next month and enjoy every bit about it. Completely recommended to anyone who likes adventure games in general.
GiftofGab's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:09
GiftofGab
@shinryu108

I praise you sir, for finding that image
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:09
Xzyliac
Oh how I dread Heavy Rain post.

I mean in this very thread are people with mixed feelings on the game but instead we focus on Jim's review.

Well...Sexy focuses on Jim's review.
KirbyMcDope's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:09
KirbyMcDope
I don't know, man. I knew who the killer is from the start because of fucking spoilers, but Heavy Rain still managed to surprise me somehow.
It's totally unique in terms of it's setting that's for sure. Heavy Rain is a mix of films Seven and Saw with noir movies and with Philip Dick on top, you can't go wrong with that. There are some really powerful moments in this game.
And why the fuck do you keep talking about Dragon's Liar? Maybe you should bring up Braindead 13 too?
That's not an argument, that's trolling. You really act like you're a fucking troll, or maybe I'm too serious sometimes. When I listen to Podtoid, I fucking love when you're talking, you're almost always right. I heard you talking to Samit about Heavy Rain and it was nothing like "This game is worse, than Dragon's Liar", so you must be joking now. But still, fuck you :)
wackner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:15
wackner
Jim Sterling, you just lost yourself a fan!

I am kidding, I still love you. I a non-gay, very heterossecual way, I mean.

But you are wrong, HEAVY RAIN is awesome. Fuck You! I love you...
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:15
hpv
Doesn't seem that mixed to me, Jim. Of course if this game were on 360 you'd be going on and on about how brilliant it is. Hell, you'd probably be praising the one part of the scenario that actually deserves criticism for being poorly written.
bEAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:16
bEAR
It certainly isn't Dynasty Warriors or a cheeseburger.
Stigmeyer's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:17
Stigmeyer
I too hope it sells well. Publishers and developers both need to be shown that there is an audience for games that somehow offer something different from the mainstream of shooters and casual games. Risk on creative new IP should be rewarded, esp. when the outcome is a title like Heavy Rain. I have played through this twice and each time is different and just as fun and I am about to start a third run through. I can not think of any game that manages to create so much tension so often. I would love to see many more games built on this engine.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:21
Sexualchocolate
Hitwhore much?
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:21
runtheplacered
"Dragon's Lair was doing that stuff years ago, and with much better writing, I might add."

Reason # 334 that Jim's opinion means absolutely shit. Seriously, you can't possibly believe that.

Oh, right.. you know your audience oh so well.. and we just love it when you troll us.

Right.
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:21
JACK of No Trades
This game was made for mature audiences only. If you were born and raised on FPS’s then you will probably not like the game. I honestly think Jim Sterling should be kept on a short leash. His obvious inflammatory write ups are insulting.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:21
GuitarAtomik
Well....I'm enjoying it. I don't feel burned at all.
runtheplacered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:22
runtheplacered
BTW, fantastic game. Really glad I bought it.
Leviathan902's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:22
Leviathan902
Alright, I have to play this game, as a rental.

I consider myself a very strict critic of stories in games (very, very few have actually worked) and generally find most to suck completely while others talk about how amazing they are (MGS for example).

So a game that relies entirely on it's narrative intrigues me. 90% of gaming sites seem to be claiming that this is the new standard in stories for games, while a few dissenters (i.e. Jim) claim that the story is hot garbage.

Considering people's tendency to be blinded by perceived "INNOVATION", and the track record of the developer (Indigo Prophecy, ICK) I'm inclined to believe more in Jim and remain skeptical until I play the game.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:26
The Silent Protagonist
I love how people think this is new or different.

I have a bridge to sell you guys.
theinternat's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:26
theinternat
ugh all this stupid crap makes me wish i didn't like the game as much as i did.
seventhevening's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:28
seventhevening
I thoroughly enjoyed Heavy Rain. It's very Indigo Prophecy, but how often do we get a game like that?

It seems like it will sell well too. I work at a Gamestop and we had more preorders for this game than Bayonetta and Darksiders combined, and more walk ins who picked up Heavy Rain in the first two hours of being open then we had in the entire day for Bayonneta and Darksiders.
bEAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/26/2010 09:28
bEAR
Truth.

http://www.destructoid.com/sony-heavy-rain-will-sell-well-is-totally-unique-165091.phtml
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