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I can understand just allowing PS3 games to be played might not be possible, but PS2 games? Yeah, that's silly.
Ah, I'd forgotten all about Fritzl. What I just experienced when I read "Kaz Hirai definitely locks PS2 games in his basement and f*cks them" was somewhere between a giggle and an explosive hernia.
Damn it, that could've been awesome. Well, there's still the sacred firmware update solution... again.
I want Odin Sphere on the go ! NOW !
I want Odin Sphere on the go ! NOW !
i fricking love the picture for this, you always manage to make me smile. thx jim
also: i am sure to play ps2 games on you psv will be possible for japan only for the first 4 years of the vita's lifetime. and then for a fee you can do it in us & europe.
also playstation will be thq at 2016
also: i am sure to play ps2 games on you psv will be possible for japan only for the first 4 years of the vita's lifetime. and then for a fee you can do it in us & europe.
also playstation will be thq at 2016
There's a rich history of synergy between the Japanese and Austrian people... PS2 games will come to the PSV, but aside from perhaps MGS3, I don't want to play any of them. And they already announced the HD collection for the Vita, so I'm all set.
What about the hacked ps3 streaming red dead to vita? not this remote play shite (which almost nothing is comparable with) please say Sony are goin to do this... But they won't will they?!
Sounds like more of them being scared of a pirating repeat of the psp. PSOne games were able to be played on the original psp firmware by simply copying them onto a memory card, regardless of how that game file was created - and look what that led to. I guarantee you there are people with a vita still sitting at firmware 1.50 hoping for history to repeat itself, so I dunno that there's absolutely no reason for it.
I'm waiting to see if any alternative flash memory cards ever show up for the thing anyway so I guess I'm not the person that this would affect.
I'm waiting to see if any alternative flash memory cards ever show up for the thing anyway so I guess I'm not the person that this would affect.
The PSP couldn't play PS1 games at launch either (or.. really do much of anything unless it was jailbroken)
I hope they do the same thing as the PSP and make the featureset absolutely massive over time. Between their own support and PS Suite, they have the power.
I hope they do the same thing as the PSP and make the featureset absolutely massive over time. Between their own support and PS Suite, they have the power.
So in the name of maintaining control Sony gives up money. If that isn't the state of the industry right now I don't know what is.
Well... to be totally honest, if sony brings more "classics" like Spongebob to the ps2 classics, I say that its good they cant be played on the vita.
"I honestly see no good reason for this. The Vita should be capable of running a PS2 game,"
Uhhhh, what? The Vita is certainly powerful, but I don't know about this. When you go from 5th generation console emulation up to 6th generation emulation, there's a large leap in the required processing power to run the game well. If they want the PS2 games on PSN to run on the Vita, they'll probably have to update them one by one to make them more compatible with the Vita's hardware.
Uhhhh, what? The Vita is certainly powerful, but I don't know about this. When you go from 5th generation console emulation up to 6th generation emulation, there's a large leap in the required processing power to run the game well. If they want the PS2 games on PSN to run on the Vita, they'll probably have to update them one by one to make them more compatible with the Vita's hardware.
Restricting things in this way is probably Sony's way of pushing Vita launch titles. They did the same thing when they cut PS2 support for the PS3. Why buy launch titles that you may not be certain about when you can transfer some of your PS3's library onto the Vita?
@Stinky - Even the PS3 Slim has the traces on the motherboard for the PS2 hardware, and the chips are still manufactured by Sony. The cost for them to reinstate hardware BC would be no more than the materials (which is minimal).
The only reason PS3 doesn't play PS2 games is because they want to continue selling more-than-decade old PS2 hardware for about $100 a pop. Jack Trenton said himself that cutting backwards compatibility had no effect on production costs, but it was to "encourage the sale of PS3 software". Just google it.
Furthermore, if Sony released a BC PS3 again, they could easily charge another $50 premium to recoup the dollar it cost to add the hardware. It would definitely all considering how much people pay for used 60GB PS3s (at one time, twice as much as non-BC new consoles).
The only reason PS3 doesn't play PS2 games is because they want to continue selling more-than-decade old PS2 hardware for about $100 a pop. Jack Trenton said himself that cutting backwards compatibility had no effect on production costs, but it was to "encourage the sale of PS3 software". Just google it.
Furthermore, if Sony released a BC PS3 again, they could easily charge another $50 premium to recoup the dollar it cost to add the hardware. It would definitely all considering how much people pay for used 60GB PS3s (at one time, twice as much as non-BC new consoles).
Just the other day I told a friend I would only buy a Vita if I could play GOD HAND on it. Fucking Sony passing up on my $350. See if I care, you fucking rapists.
I'm sure they'll play it eventually, but god damn if it never gets it, it'll be a huge blow to the system.(Fuck You Sony for not letting me play God Hand)
"I honestly see no good reason for this. The Vita should be capable of running a PS2 game, so for Sony to not allow it just smacks of yet another company restricting products simply for the sake of restricting them."
Yeah, that makes sense... Seriously, though, you think this is simply for the sake of restricting them? Let's think about this for a second... You think at some meeting at Sony, someone made the decision to restrict the Vita from playing PS2 games just because they could? This is moronic. The truth is, it's either a) a business decision (they want to release HD ports that will look better on the hardware or some other reason) or b) a technical hurdle that was deemed too expensive to overcome (and therefore partly a business decision).
Let's stop saying stupid things like "this company did this just because they were able to." I'm not saying that companies have the users' best interest in mind, but come on; put some more thought into this.
Yeah, that makes sense... Seriously, though, you think this is simply for the sake of restricting them? Let's think about this for a second... You think at some meeting at Sony, someone made the decision to restrict the Vita from playing PS2 games just because they could? This is moronic. The truth is, it's either a) a business decision (they want to release HD ports that will look better on the hardware or some other reason) or b) a technical hurdle that was deemed too expensive to overcome (and therefore partly a business decision).
Let's stop saying stupid things like "this company did this just because they were able to." I'm not saying that companies have the users' best interest in mind, but come on; put some more thought into this.
Is this a bad time to ask Sony if the PS3 will every play PS2 games? Or has that just been swept under the rug.
Really the only thing that would have kept me from selling it was that.
Really the only thing that would have kept me from selling it was that.
No PS2 games on Vita? That's pretty silly and a lost opportunity. Even more comfortable waiting for a price cut or 2
I honestly was waiting for this to happen. I've been seldom thinking of how awesome it would be to play a classic ps2 game on the go. Now I guess it's just a matter of time until people get fed up with this crap and make the Vita do things they never intended. Just like with the psp all over again, dedicated individuals will just hack the darn thing and make it do what it should be able to in the first place.
I don't know how fun playing a PS2 or PS3 game on vita would actually be. Your missing 2 shoulder buttons and I don't think the Vita's analog sticks push in for the L3 and R3 button. The funny thing is even if sony did this, ppl would bitch about the pricing of the PS2 games or some shit.
Just like Atlus never intended to release Catherine when they said, "We have no plans to release Catherine," right?
I think consumers always demanding too much.
Don't get me wrong, I do want PS2 games on the go.
However, for Sony to accomplish this, too much work with emulators & compatibility testing on game by game bases need to be done.
I say let them finish with PSP emulation compatibility list (275 title or so) & PSone classics for the Vita, then let them work on PS2 games or better yet improve the Vita OS and make remote play and browser working right.
It's all about priorities. PS2 emulation is nice, but before that there are to many things need to be done and set straight for Vita before that.
Don't get me wrong, I do want PS2 games on the go.
However, for Sony to accomplish this, too much work with emulators & compatibility testing on game by game bases need to be done.
I say let them finish with PSP emulation compatibility list (275 title or so) & PSone classics for the Vita, then let them work on PS2 games or better yet improve the Vita OS and make remote play and browser working right.
It's all about priorities. PS2 emulation is nice, but before that there are to many things need to be done and set straight for Vita before that.
@Zakku I could see that working out. I guess they could have tap the screens for the L3 and R3 buttons or something like that.
THIS IS BULLSHIT! MY DAD WORKS AT NINTENDO AND HE GAVE ME A GAMEBOY ADVANCE THAT COULD PLAY ALL PS2 AND DREAMCAST2 GAMES SO WHY CANT THIS NEW SONY VITCRAP DO IT.
@Ralazar - I do agree with you. After my disappointment subsided, I wondered what the reasoning was. I don't believe for a minute that the Vita isn't capable of doing PS2 games, but I don't know if Sony wants to send out the "You can play old games" message so early on with the Vita, not while there's NEW games you could be playing.
They want you to buy the launch games, on top of the system and mem-card. They want you playing Uncharted, Escape Plan, Little Deviants, etc. They don't want you playing old PS2/PSX games on your shiny new Vita yet because that takes money away from those launch games. At least, that's the only "legitimate" business marketing reason I can think of for this move. I firmly believe that the firmware update for PS2/PS1 support is coming. Now, do I believe the PS2 Classics will get the support they deserve? I do wonder about that.
They want you to buy the launch games, on top of the system and mem-card. They want you playing Uncharted, Escape Plan, Little Deviants, etc. They don't want you playing old PS2/PSX games on your shiny new Vita yet because that takes money away from those launch games. At least, that's the only "legitimate" business marketing reason I can think of for this move. I firmly believe that the firmware update for PS2/PS1 support is coming. Now, do I believe the PS2 Classics will get the support they deserve? I do wonder about that.
Is Sony ashamed of past success or do they just not wish to be reminded of the failure they are now? Their slogan may as well become "You'll only buy everything again."
Sooooooooooo
We gonna start bitching about a lack of backwards-cross-platform-compatibility now?
It plays my PSP games, it plays my Vita games. Happy Days.
(I know there's a list of 256 PSP games that officially work, but rumour has it most others do too)
We gonna start bitching about a lack of backwards-cross-platform-compatibility now?
It plays my PSP games, it plays my Vita games. Happy Days.
(I know there's a list of 256 PSP games that officially work, but rumour has it most others do too)
I cancelled my preorder.
All I wanted was to be able to play my PS3 games on the go. Dark Souls in a waiting room. Skyrim on a train. They aren't getting any money from me until this is possible.
Does this article cover remote play as well, because I had heard they were going to add game compatibility, did they just go back on what they said?
All I wanted was to be able to play my PS3 games on the go. Dark Souls in a waiting room. Skyrim on a train. They aren't getting any money from me until this is possible.
Does this article cover remote play as well, because I had heard they were going to add game compatibility, did they just go back on what they said?
@sexual chocolate
It just seems like their marketing campaign doesn't make sense. Why market to people who already have a PS3 and not include PS3 compatibiliy? I mean who wants to go out and buy a new console and buy all your games over again. To expensive for my taste's. If Vita allowed me to play my already owned PS3 games I would consider buying one.
It just seems like their marketing campaign doesn't make sense. Why market to people who already have a PS3 and not include PS3 compatibiliy? I mean who wants to go out and buy a new console and buy all your games over again. To expensive for my taste's. If Vita allowed me to play my already owned PS3 games I would consider buying one.
@therealdanhill
well, remote play is a separate thing.
On PS-blog FAQ
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/16/ps-vita-the-ultimate-faq/
They said "we’ll have further details to share in the future." regarding remoteplay.
well, remote play is a separate thing.
On PS-blog FAQ
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/16/ps-vita-the-ultimate-faq/
They said "we’ll have further details to share in the future." regarding remoteplay.
@afrit Well, I've tried asking Jim about remote play, he won't give any details. He didn't include anything about it in his review, and multiple websites have conflicting reports on functionality.
All I want to know is this: If my kids are using the TV, can I play a PS3 game on my vita if it is installed to the hard drive and the disk is in the system?
Can someone please answer this?
All I want to know is this: If my kids are using the TV, can I play a PS3 game on my vita if it is installed to the hard drive and the disk is in the system?
Can someone please answer this?
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