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Sony gives Kotaku the finger (update) photo

Sony 1, Kotaku 1

Or I guess depending on how you look at it, maybe Kotaku won. Who knows? But what I do know is that Brian Crecente has big brass balls and my blogger in arms stood up to Sony and seems to have gotten disinvited from every Sony event and basically stripped of his Sony manhood. Here's the story that caused the drama and here's what went down because of it:

When I responded that we were going forward with the story and that sometimes news doesn't come from official sources I was told that if we published we would likely be blackballed by the company.

Specifically, they said we would be asked to return our debug PS3, uninvited from all meetings scheduled with Sony at GDC, including one on blogger relations and a one-on-one with Phil Harrison, and that they would no longer deal with us.

Well, not only that, but Crecente then went on to post Sony's letter saying that they'd be shut out. Check out the entire soap opera after the jump.

Let me say this to Sony, though: You've got a PR problem out there, and picking on a popular gaming blog isn't going to help things. You may want to reconsider this "ban" and realize that we and Kotaku are the present and future and what you're going to have to deal with from now on. By doing this, you're making your company look even worse and more out of touch with today's gaming culture.

I will be meeting with Sony at this blogger event they're holding at GDC. Hopefully, I'll be able to bring their side of this whole mess and more. Stay tuned. 

[Update: Sony and Kotaku are friends again. Crisis averted.] 

From Sony's Dave Karraker:

Brian, This is an email I was really hoping I would never have to write, but it is what it is. When I came on board here at Sony, I made every effort to be as inclusive as possible to media and the blogging community in an effort to improve previously damaged relationships. This included getting people access to executives, opening our events to more individuals and personally responding as quickly as possible to inquiries. This was done in good faith with the thought that the people I was working with would operate with the same integrity and courtesy I think I demonstrated when I was a reporter. Basically, I went out on a limb for a lot of people -- people SCEA PR and SCEA management had written off. I caught a lot of flack for it from folks, but I felt strongly it was the right thing to do.

I am very disappointed that after trying to work with you as closely as possible and provide you and your team with access and information, you chose to report on this rumor.... I can't defend outlets that can't work cooperatively with us.

So, it is for this reason, that we will be canceling all further interviews for Kotaku staff at GDC and will be dis-inviting you to our media event next Tuesday. Until we can find a way to work better together, information provided to your site will only be that found in the public forum.

Again, I take absolutely no joy in sending you this note, but given the situation you have put me into, I have no choice.

Dave Karraker
Sr. Director, Corporate Communications
Sony Computer Entertainment America

Brian Crecente's response:

Dave, Obviously I disagree with your decision, but it sounds like your mind is made up. I think this only highlights the differences that PR people and journalists have. My interest is not in making sure that Sony has positive news or that the timing of their news is correct, my job only is to inform the readers of news as quickly and accurately as I can. Hopefully, one day this dispute will settle down and you will reopen communication with us. Know this, while I disagree with this decision and think it is a monumental mistake, it will not effect our continuing coverage of Sony and the gaming software and hardware your company makes and supports. Take care, Brian 

 


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SmokeyB's Avatar
SmokeyB at 03/01/2007 16:27
Sony can lick deez nuts!
Toneman's Avatar
Toneman at 03/01/2007 16:27
Well Sony's PS3 is uninvited from my home. I'm $500 richer now!
DJTyrant's Avatar
DJTyrant at 03/01/2007 16:28
Awesome even more bad press for Sony. Nice work guys.
Toneman's Avatar
Toneman at 03/01/2007 16:30
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Toneman at 03/01/2007 16:32
My Bad! My mouse screwed up and clicked the add comment button on accident.

Anyways, this seems like a big "Story Confirmed" from Sony. Why else would you ban somebody from events for posting a rumor? Methinks they're just pissed that Kotaku broke the story before Sony had a chance to annunce anything.
cbebop007's Avatar
cbebop007 at 03/01/2007 16:34
...

What the fuck is Sony's problem?

And, yeah, that rumor will definitely end up being true. At least at some point.
wintermute's Avatar
wintermute at 03/01/2007 16:34
Much respect to Kotaku, way to stick it to the man.
Detry's Avatar
Detry at 03/01/2007 16:35


obligatory
Necros's Avatar
Necros at 03/01/2007 16:35
This is extremely immature of Sony and ignorant of the ways of journalism. And just when I was starting to give them a little slack after Phil Harrison made some concessions in those Newsweek interviews.
cbebop007's Avatar
cbebop007 at 03/01/2007 16:36
Oh, and Kotaku DEFINITELY won that battle.
skankerzero's Avatar
skankerzero at 03/01/2007 16:36
yup yup, oh well.
Brad Rice's Avatar
Brad Rice at 03/01/2007 16:37
From Sony's POV< I would've thought that they'd just have no comment, but this way is not only confirming it, but they're also spiting all of us. Way to go, Sony.
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ljhalfbreed at 03/01/2007 16:37
Fo-rizzle! I can't wait for the next wicked-hot site to come out:

http://alliwantfromsonyistobetheirbitch.com


Kudos to Kotaku for sticking to their damn guns against Sony's crap PR/Business sense.
drdentz's Avatar
drdentz at 03/01/2007 16:39
Props to Kotaku.

Seriously, fuck sony.
Niero's Avatar
Niero at 03/01/2007 16:40
Ok, so I guess we know what Phil Harrison is going to be talking about.
sadpanda's Avatar
sadpanda at 03/01/2007 16:41
Sony 1, Kotaku 0?

How do you figure that? I'd say it's the other way around.
World Famous's Avatar
World Famous at 03/01/2007 16:43
I only said that cause they banned Kotaku from everything and wanted their stuff back.
Salami Inferno's Avatar
Salami Inferno at 03/01/2007 16:44
Now MS has time to use their competent PR department to come up with a major counter for this new feature announcement at GDC.
Salami Inferno's Avatar
Salami Inferno at 03/01/2007 16:44
Now MS has time to use their competent PR department to come up with a major counter for this new feature announcement at GDC.
mix's Avatar
mix at 03/01/2007 16:45
Shhhhhh, thought control is next.
Brandon Undead's Avatar
Brandon Undead at 03/01/2007 16:46
Watching Sony right now is like watching the Titanic go down.
Fenris's Avatar
Fenris at 03/01/2007 16:46
Kotaku, has really shined in this exchange.

Brian remained calm in the face of a powerful foe. I commend him and Kotaku for their stance.
Chris Taran's Avatar
Chris Taran at 03/01/2007 16:49
I respected Kotaku before, but that just got knocked up a few notches.

Much hate for Sony though. They make it easier everyday for me to not purchase a PS3.
pandlcg's Avatar
pandlcg at 03/01/2007 16:51
I wonder if that other website i'm not supposed to mention will run this story now or if they were already coerced by Sony into not talking...
Dan's Avatar
Dan at 03/01/2007 16:51
kotaku did good. I am really impressed. The second best gaming site gained some points in my book.

BFeld13's Avatar
BFeld13 at 03/01/2007 16:51
Props to Kotaku.

Maybe this was what PS3 fans will be "very happy" about
BluDesign's Avatar
BluDesign at 03/01/2007 16:52
Well, let's see if Sony lets me never buy a PS3:

reprinted from Kotaku:

"Playstation Home sounds like it could be an interesting, lo-fi, killer app, as described by our source.

Basically, you get to make an avatar for your console (like a Mii) and this avatar has a room. As you play games and accomplish certain tasks, you will receive items with which to adorn the room that are specific to the game (achievements). The kicker is that this is going to be a new requirement for every PS3 game..."

Oh NOES! Sony's at my door taking away my cell phone! And OH NOES! My DVD player. And my Digital camera! STOP NO PLEAASE NO!!!!!!!
watup's Avatar
watup at 03/01/2007 16:52
sony is the shiz. this blog is full of 360 fanboys. it's all negative stuff from these 360 fanboys. this blog deserves the ban for all their shiz. this blog is for insane gamers, not the typical guy that plays only a few hrs of games a day than those insane gamers who are soooo pale and never go outside to play video games 24/7. sony roxorrrrzzz!!!
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bluexy at 03/01/2007 16:53
I wanted to write an intelligent response regarding how the industry should not control the media covering it. I'll write that one in my blog or something. As a straight-away consumer though here's what I came up with.

Fuck you Sony, you guys are a bag of dicks.
Philonious's Avatar
Philonious at 03/01/2007 16:53
While I don't think this is any way a good thing, I also don't see it as Kotaku winning some sort of moral victory. The relationship between Sony and professional gaming blogs is after all about money... Everyone benefits from the coverage gaming companies get. If this was about some negative story Kotaku was printing, then I agree that Sony was clearly in the wrong... But the information likely came from a leak at Sony. One that will (justly) get some people fired, and will probably cost Sony some money since they were hoping the announcement at GDC would help their stock out.

This isn't something about journalistic responsibility, this was about being the first to print and increasing traffic (and money) for Kotaku. This is entertainment journalism, and like it or not you have to keep your sources happy, not just your audience.
mix's Avatar
mix at 03/01/2007 16:53
Whats up watup, now leave.
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ArrestedDeveloper at 03/01/2007 16:54
Good to see journalistic balls, Good job kotaku. Also cocks
Jordan Grim Devore's Avatar
Jordan Grim Devore at 03/01/2007 16:56
Like Chris said, I respect Kotaku more (and Sony less) then I did before.
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watup at 03/01/2007 16:57
it's okay to be jealous over the ps3. 360 fanboys are gonna start their flame wave against the ps3 because of all the good news and good shiz towards the ps3 these days. ps3 has only been out for a couple months and already offers more than the 360 even when it's been out for about 2 years. WATUP! 360 fanboys can only complain about the price. i know you 360 fanboys feel saddened because you were technically made to have a 360 since your mommy bought you a cheaper 360 for christmas which you regret. everyone knows they would want a ps3, but it's only because of the price there's an issue. who doesn't have a ps2 too eh?
mix's Avatar
mix at 03/01/2007 16:58
Well Philonious (I was writing when you were posting)

You have some very valid opinions but I see Sony's "battle axe" as being to harsh as all they did was post a rumor and clearly stated it as a rumor.

I see the bad side as if everyone got their hopes up (as people do) on this "new rumor" and if it was never intended to be released by Sony, then consumers would be cranky and whiney about it and how Sony is lying and what not. That is why rumors hurt companies.

I heard that the next gameboy color update will include a new 17th color display! Yay nintendo....Then they dont deliver it as it was a rumor, consumers get angry, and one guy in Gallop new Mexcio starts a flame page....somthing like that

Toneman's Avatar
Toneman at 03/01/2007 17:01
Let's not turn this into a "which console is better" argument. STFUAJPG.
AlexanderJ's Avatar
AlexanderJ at 03/01/2007 17:02
So this home thing is a customizable room? and let me guess, you earn furinature, like a sony stero to put in your virtal room? Is that what it means?

Wow. I think I can find that in a cheap flash-game online.

Props to Kotaku, At least they handled this in a mature manor.
BluDesign's Avatar
BluDesign at 03/01/2007 17:02
Phil,

This doesn't have anything to do with deadlines. Destructoid coulda run this same story if the leak had approached them. None of the blogs, in this case Kotaku, have spoken of being tied to an NDA on this announcement, and given that the news came from a leak, it's likely there was no NDA to adhere to. As such, it's free press, and whoever gets it gets it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism#Professional_and_ethical_standards
Niero's Avatar
Niero at 03/01/2007 17:03
This deserves a new site logo. Jesus incoming
blu3steel's Avatar
blu3steel at 03/01/2007 17:03
Either Watup is being sarcastic or he thought that this was Joystiq. Well to make you feel at home I guess I'll say...

"This isn't news"
Namelessted's Avatar
Namelessted at 03/01/2007 17:04
awesome job posting about this. Sony just keeps fucking up. And now they have Kotaku against them because of this, and it sound like Destructoid is backing Kotaku. I love it. I love it. I love it.
blu3steel's Avatar
blu3steel at 03/01/2007 17:06
Nice banner Niero
Barbara's Avatar
Barbara at 03/01/2007 17:06
Oh My God! Everyone let's take this personal! Holy crap let's show how big of a nerd we really are by being offended by this.

I can understand how this affects other game journalists, or how Summa can have an opinion but as a consumer who cares! People who have this much emotional hatred for a corporation are so pitiful that it makes me want to punch my brand new puppy in the cunt!

And yes I do have a new puppy! Thanks for asking.
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World Famous at 03/01/2007 17:06
I back anyone who stands up to the man.
BluDesign's Avatar
BluDesign at 03/01/2007 17:07
Ooop, Watup, you got out, SORRY ABOUT THAT FOLKS!

Watup, that's awesome you have such opinions. We'd love to talk to you about it in greater detail. We have just the forum for you. Please continue this discussion here.

We look forward to seeing your post up there soon, where we'll replay right away.
Philonious's Avatar
Philonious at 03/01/2007 17:09
@dvd

Like I said, I don't think this has to do with freedom of the press or journalistic integrity. It had to do with what would up Kotaku's traffic. Same thing could be said of making a big deal about how Sony is now black balling them. In the long run this will hurt both sides and is unfortunate all around.
blu3steel's Avatar
blu3steel at 03/01/2007 17:09
@Barbara
why do you have an emotional hatred for those who have an emotional hatred for a corporation?

LOGIC!
watup's Avatar
watup at 03/01/2007 17:10
who the f is Kotaku. is this like the insane gamer's god? ive never heard of this dude. this kotaku figure doesnt know when to keep his mouth shut and he obviously knew this ps3 info was obviously confidential. he's dumb for putting out these rumors. is it just that hard to wait for phil harrison to make his supposed big announcement on march 7th? o no! no more kotaku contacts with ps3!!! cmon guys, lets go on a hunger strike for kotaku and his stupid OWN mistake. Not.
JonDarkwood's Avatar
JonDarkwood at 03/01/2007 17:10
Much of what Sony says is worthless anyway. They're so full of themselves.
Philonious's Avatar
Philonious at 03/01/2007 17:11
@Summa

So are you going to boycott Sony in retaliation..? That would be something no one would expect and get your point across. I'm not being jerky or sarcastic, it would be BOLD.
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