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Come on Jimbo, Sony is one of the better companies when it comes to knowingly shipping broken products, also Firmware updates aren't the root of all evil.
Specially when they are a very timely fix to a problem.
Hopefully all will be well for the Feb launch over here! I'm squeeing all over the place.
Specially when they are a very timely fix to a problem.
Hopefully all will be well for the Feb launch over here! I'm squeeing all over the place.
I can't believe what I'm reading. This is unacceptable. No company should EVER have to release a patch for their product. They should use there CONSIDERABLE WEALTH to invest in a TIME MACHINE so they can properly prepare for EVERY PROBLEM THEIR SYSTEM WILL EVER HAVE and design their product so that they can all be avoided.
From now on, I'm boycotting all video games that even THINK of releasing a patch. You should never ship a broken or unfinished product, FASCISTS.
From now on, I'm boycotting all video games that even THINK of releasing a patch. You should never ship a broken or unfinished product, FASCISTS.
HAHA, for some reason I thought the title was pretty hilarious. I already feel the firmware noose tightening around my neck.
In all seriousness though, it's good that these things get fixed, even if it isn't right out of the box.
In all seriousness though, it's good that these things get fixed, even if it isn't right out of the box.
Not really interested in humoring conspiracy theories, just glad they're getting things fixed so quickly.
Even Bette would be launching a product that wasn't broken, or consumers who weren't OK with something the probably dropped 300-500 on, assuming men stick and game buys, being broken from the manufacturer.
Also, Jim has the right of it. They knew this shit was a problem. No company out there is able to react to a problem that fast. They'd have to first scour the code to find the issues, write new code to fix it, QA that code to verify it doesn't create a dozen new problems, and then make sure the firmware system, which is also untested at this point is distributes and implements the code correctly.
This fix is one they had on deck to solve a flaw in product that had yet to release.
Hey Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and every other half assed MFG, software dev, and business on the planet: Stop releasing half finished shit. We, your paying customers would really appreciate the fuck out of that.
Also, Jim has the right of it. They knew this shit was a problem. No company out there is able to react to a problem that fast. They'd have to first scour the code to find the issues, write new code to fix it, QA that code to verify it doesn't create a dozen new problems, and then make sure the firmware system, which is also untested at this point is distributes and implements the code correctly.
This fix is one they had on deck to solve a flaw in product that had yet to release.
Hey Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and every other half assed MFG, software dev, and business on the planet: Stop releasing half finished shit. We, your paying customers would really appreciate the fuck out of that.
@mrfloppy
I think jim is half right: they may have discovered the issue before launch, but after manufacturing had begun. After discovering the issue and during production, they worked on the patch.
I think jim is half right: they may have discovered the issue before launch, but after manufacturing had begun. After discovering the issue and during production, they worked on the patch.
@FoxyGrandpa
Cool story bro. Stop being a crybaby, because we all know you're going to buy more stuff like that. Count yourself lucky that this didn't happen on its launch day in the west. Just cause You're too poor to buy a Vita, go and complain to Sony about it instead of on here, you adopted cunt.
Who really cares anyway? Its fixed now, and that's all that matters. As I said, it could have happened on the western release instead. The fact its not out here for another 2 months gives them plenty of time to fine-tune the thing? So shut the fuck up, ALL of you crybabies.
Cool story bro. Stop being a crybaby, because we all know you're going to buy more stuff like that. Count yourself lucky that this didn't happen on its launch day in the west. Just cause You're too poor to buy a Vita, go and complain to Sony about it instead of on here, you adopted cunt.
Who really cares anyway? Its fixed now, and that's all that matters. As I said, it could have happened on the western release instead. The fact its not out here for another 2 months gives them plenty of time to fine-tune the thing? So shut the fuck up, ALL of you crybabies.
Yes, Jim, that's how you fix problems with the software on an embedded device. You updated the firmware. Are you stupid? Just shut the fuck up.
no game company has ever knowingly shipped a broken product.
Earthworm Jim Special Edition for the Sega CD.
Your argument is invalid.
Earthworm Jim Special Edition for the Sega CD.
Your argument is invalid.
Poor rigby and mordecai... the wifi model sold out, so now they have to work more to afford the 3g...
"Seriously dude, my eyes won't open and I think we're almost out of coffee..."
"Nonsense. We have plenty of coffee."
...
Ah regular show...
"Seriously dude, my eyes won't open and I think we're almost out of coffee..."
"Nonsense. We have plenty of coffee."
...
Ah regular show...
@rouge
He was being sarcastic, I think.
@epic
He was being sarcastic.... although your selection of product is quite random... I see what you did there...
He was being sarcastic, I think.
@epic
He was being sarcastic.... although your selection of product is quite random... I see what you did there...
lol is it actually fixed now though?
Far too often as of late, we have hardware manufacturing companies claiming they can fix an issue with a firmware update, when it is in actuality a problem with the hardware. *cough*Apple*cough*
Far too often as of late, we have hardware manufacturing companies claiming they can fix an issue with a firmware update, when it is in actuality a problem with the hardware. *cough*Apple*cough*
HOW DARE A COMPANY FIX IT LAUNCH PROBLEMS BURN BURN BURN
geez talk about beating a dead horse with moaning over firmware find something else to cry about
geez talk about beating a dead horse with moaning over firmware find something else to cry about
Perhaps you should praise their desire to actually fix things rather than washing their hands and leaving it broken. Yeah, they wouldn't sell many if remained broken, but it's better than nowt.
How the fuck else are they gonna fix it? Issue a product recall just to fix a software issue? Yeah, that makes sense!
Wow, is everyone's sarcasm meter broken today? Also: I think Jim's mostly just tongue-in-cheekily alluding to his own previous firmware rants here. Although he has point about the fact of how quickly this patch came out meant that they knew about the issues before launch, but Ronin has it right, I think. They likely found out about the issues during manufacturing or at least after a critical deadline. When the choice is between delaying a launch or patching post-launch, the best move financially is probably to fix after launch. My one concern is, although I realize that it's a small percentage of launch units that are experiencing problems, one would think, given the nature of the issues, these problems would have been detected soon enough to fix before manufacturing.
hello world.
while the firmware could be the root of all evil, if sony happened to put in their "root-kit" spyware into the firmware, then it is only the bearer of the root of all evil instead.
while the firmware could be the root of all evil, if sony happened to put in their "root-kit" spyware into the firmware, then it is only the bearer of the root of all evil instead.
Sony is a company that sells the sizzle, not the steak. Most of their products have a laundry list of features (sometimes removed before release), but the finished products just don't hold up. I'm not just writing about video game systems. I avoid all Sony consumer electronics. They just don't have good QA. For a company that used to be known for their quality, it is kind of sad.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sony fail. Firmware update. Continued Sony fail. Rinse and repeat.
Sony fail. Firmware update. Continued Sony fail. Rinse and repeat.
Such is the life of the modern console gamer; where hardware companies are making software and software companies are making hardware.
Swallow your pride, contract-out/hire-new, and stop sucking.
Swallow your pride, contract-out/hire-new, and stop sucking.
I am appalled by how many people cannot and/or simply choose not to accept that Jim is a sarcastic bastard. A completely lovable sarcastic bastard at that. Wake the fuck up, you idiots.
Of course it's bad that were are problems but personally I'm glad that they have managed to fix them so soon. Firmware updates aren't a bad thing imo, but still, companies should put more effort in bug testing.
I HATE YOU PEOPLE I'm going to my room to cry now. This has been a test of the emergency people are bad at detecting sarcasm system. Please continue on with your daily scheduled temper tantrums as normally as possible. Have a pleasant day.
At least the firmware is going to actually do something this time. I find that much more tolerable than just having it be twenty minutes between me and the game i wanted to play.
Makes me wonder what companies did before the internet. I guess they just had people send their entire system back to the manufacturer. But that hasn't happened in forever...right?
I use CAPITAL letters to EXPRESS my UTTER disbelief at this piece of NEWS. How can a man NOT express his ANGER without the USE of CAPITAL LETTERS?
Admittedly, the last line is a little weird in light of your Skyrim review. I agree with you about the game - absolutely my GOTY despite the bugs, along with Dark Souls - but it does feel a little disingenuous to keep harping on other companies for releasing busted stuff when you haven't really taken the time to explain how Skyrim is any different.
Maybe an editorial about it would do some good?
Maybe an editorial about it would do some good?
Good thing the "update" doesn't take a single triple-A battery and cost $19.99 AMIRITE.....lol
I you Jim and usually never complain about what I read but I don't care about updates at all. My PC is updated almost every damn day, can we have news articles about those updates as well too please :P
I you Jim and usually never complain about what I read but I don't care about updates at all. My PC is updated almost every damn day, can we have news articles about those updates as well too please :P
Sony is fixing it as soon as possible. If they knew about the problems and had an update ready why would they not just have you download it when you first connected? Why wait until there is a shitstorm?
I'm new here but all this Jim guy seems to do is bitch about shit.
Corporations are all out to get you Jim. Only by your wit's girth are you able to fight off the hordes and keep your soul free of their evil influence. At least that's what seems to be implied by your pompous rants.
I'm new here but all this Jim guy seems to do is bitch about shit.
Corporations are all out to get you Jim. Only by your wit's girth are you able to fight off the hordes and keep your soul free of their evil influence. At least that's what seems to be implied by your pompous rants.
Its normal for console companies to ship broken/incomplete products, like the stupid hinge problem that I had with the initial shipment of DS Lites and that 360 RROD. Normal.
It's like product testing doesn't even exist anymore.
And Sonyfanboys are still defending these kinds of practices. No company should get a free pass on these kinds of things.
And Sonyfanboys are still defending these kinds of practices. No company should get a free pass on these kinds of things.
I laugh at people who think he's being sarcastic. They obviously haven't read the multitude of other Sony/EA/Any Corporation bashing articles he's written.
I sure hope a firmware update(s) is all that is needed. Having read and seen the issues of the touchscreen and freezing, the Vita has gone from a sure thing purchase to a lets wait and see purchase. I have been screwed over with the 360 (many many, oh too many times) with the RROD that the 360 became a nightmare to use. With that experience I think the lesson is not to zombie like purchase a hardware product without getting further info from people who actually purchased it first.
(@Elliptic:) I laugh at people who take Jim's rage articles seriously. You said you're new here, so I don't hold it against you, but anyone who pays attention to stuff Jim says and posts should be able to figure out that he posts for entertainment primarily (even if it's mostly just his own). Destructoid isn't exactly a hard news site (heck, most of their leads come from other gaming news blogs), so I fail to see the problem here. Jim over-exaggerates his reactions to just about everything. It's his "schtick" as it were. It seems to be a flaw in the average internet user that this kind of thing is hard to pick up on or understand.
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