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Sony calls BS on Microsoft's sales numbers photo

Up until now, Sony has always had the "yeah, whatever" attitude when it came to sales figures, as their competition has been out-pacing them for about a year. Recently, holiday sales, advertising campaigns, and sales cuts have brought some solid sales numbers to Sony's camp, and they finally have some sales figures to be proud of. Maybe this is why Sony has taken issue with Microsoft's claims that the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 2-to-1 duing the week beginning November 18th.

Yesterday Microsoft claimed to have sold 310,000 consoles, proudly boasting that they sold twice as many next-gen consoles as Sony did during the holiday weekend rush. Not long after the news got out, Sony rep Kimberly Otzman blasted off an email to The Seattle Post-Intelligencer:

"It's (Sony Computer Entertainment America) policy not to disclose our unit sales numbers until NPD numbers are officially released which will be December 13th. However, I can assure you that Microsoft's estimates of our PS3 unit sales numbers are way off and they did not outsell PS3 2:1 during Black Friday week."

Who's lying here? Maybe no one is. Microsoft did originally state that the figures were based on retail estimates, but it will be interesting to see if they stick to their guns when the NPD numbers hit. We'll bring you more on this as it comes down the line. 

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BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:35
BlindsideDork
Micro$oft spokesman says, "Ship, sold? What's the difference?"
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:42
Dale North
@ BSD - hahah
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:49
DeusPayne
Always so confident with their PR... when will they learn some humility. If they're right, why not wait until the numbers are out, then blast them for real. If they're wrong, they've just shot themselves in the foot... again.
astromonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:51
astromonkey
the girl in the gray hoodie is kinda cute.
h3lios's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:55
h3lios
Who cares? The bottom line is that we as consumers win. This gen is turning into a fucking pissing contest.
cleopatrudo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 09:59
cleopatrudo
CAT FIGHT!!!
ToeKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 10:08
ToeKing
astromonkey: I was thinking the same thing. More along the lines of "I'd like to see her minus the hoodie"
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 10:13
JACK of No Trades
You notice the oddball in the pic? lol that guy with the beard and blue hat.

Sony doesn't have any room to talk. Just shut the hell up and put out games!
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 10:39
loki d20
I agree with Sony, but I would have just have waited for the numbers to prove them wrong.

Of course, we don't know if the reporter asked Sony for their comments on the situation or if it was sent blindly. Don't be mislead by the way it's presented, it doesn't necessarily mean that Sony just wanted to spout about MS being wrong, could just be an honest answer.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 11:09
Shin Oni
@qwerty

There's games out on the PS3 sure, but most know that the big hitters or exclusives were sub par to crap. Let alone most of the games out on the PS3 are already out on the 360 and you're still getting more stuff with the 360 than the PS3

either way though, I know for sure people weren't buying PS3s at the Best buy I was at. 360s sold like hotcakes and PS3's only moved because of some deal they had with the 40 gig only. (which still didn't move as much.)

When Sony stops acting stupid and trying to sucker buyers out of the "HD Experience" they keep pushing by making you buy the component cables seperate, maybe i'll look again before spending 500 or so on their system.

...oh Sony's throwing more BS about the 360 outselling them if I just happen to skip that small note.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 11:11
ArrestedDeveloper
All Sony had to do was release their numbers but instead they pussed out. If nothing else we know that they are in third place, again.
luvmysegadc's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 11:30
luvmysegadc
Sony can bitch all they want. Not enough quality titles for their system, the only thing they can fall back on is it's blu-ray capablity.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 11:34
Usedtabe
Sounds too me like Sony is praying that more people buy some consoles quick so the NPD numbers can help their statement.

@Dues Payne: Who? Sony or MS? They both have cock-strong PR departments, as is their job.
Dennen's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 11:43
Dennen
I actually think there's a lot that Sony can do to increase PS3 sales.

Among them are:
Work alongside developers with their own team to be readily available to help with any complications that arise during development - they're the experts, they should help.

Upgrade the Backwards Compatibility. At least allow PSX games to be rendered out in high definition resolutions - if an emulator can pull it off, I am quite sure the PS3 can handle it. The same goes for the PS2, but that's a bit more demanding.

Offer replacements on the controller to upgrade, even if it's a very small fee and I have to pay for shipping, it's better than having to buy an entirely new controller.

Show a humble face that doesn't have "I'm a Pompous Ass" written across the forehead. I am sure a lot of developers seeing such a change would give Sony a little more respect. Or at least I would.. Sacrificing the chances at making the PS3 into something huge over being an egotistical honorable ass is not worth it.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 12:08
F Whipple
Begun...the PR wars have
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 12:18
DeusPayne
@usetabe: that's the point. I didn't use any names. I have a general love for bashing PR from all sources. Both are so confident that they're right. But both can't be. So one is clearly wrong. So... when the numbers are released, we'll see who the cocky bastards were that couldn't wait a week or two to brag, and we'll also see who the retarded bastards are that couldn't wait a week or two to confirm their misguided ideas.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 12:29
vexed alex
If it is, my only question would is, why? This is like when you're eight years old and everyone's seen the Power Rangers movie except you. So, you start lying about seeing it. You're not getting anything out of it. You still haven't seen the movie and now you have to keep up this lie.

But, seriously. Why? What would they gain out of this except giving console fanboys, boners.
Quisling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 14:13
Quisling
"the girl in the gray hoodie is kinda cute."

She's also about 13. So yeah, if you're into children I suppose she would be. Way to fail.

Also, "I'm better than you because your system only outsold us 1.89-to-1, duh!"

And furthermore: Sony here sounds almost as smug as the "I have 3 PS3's" guy. FTL.
moeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 14:35
moeman
It's pretty funny how neither side mentions the wii.
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 14:56
Orionsaint
What?

ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 15:19
ikiryou
Wow. Destructoid morphed into Joystiq's comment section before my very eyes.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 15:52
Barcode
Sony needs to stop bitching and work on some good games. I haven't heard about any game worth buying for a long time.
ikiryou's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 16:14
ikiryou
Wow. Destructoid morphed into Joystiq's comment section before my very eyes.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 16:41
Bob Muir
@ ikiryou
Post it a few more times, see if it changes anything.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 19:51
Joe Burling
qwerty, why would you want any media on your PS3 when you can stream? ???
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/30/2007 20:03
akathatoneguy
Quisling- That girl could be anywhere from 15 to about 21, and we wouldn't have any way to know for sure. Get off your high horse. She has nice boobs, and she is the only thing even vaguely interesting about this article or this thread.
bee_brother's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/01/2007 04:51
bee_brother
The Guy with the beard is a bear, not that I was looking.
raggedROBO's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/01/2007 08:24
raggedROBO
Here's something people should account in their sales numbers: the amount of systems sold to prior owners (i.e., it broke so i had to get another). I'd say at least 70% of the 3-shittys I sell go to people replacing their system, what a great way to increase sales #'s.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/01/2007 14:07
Fading Star
We'll see what happens.
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