I remember arguing with my co-workers about those (fake) PS4 videos that we saw last month. People were becoming quite heated about how it's "too soon" to be talking about the next PlayStation console. I assured them that it was not. I insisted that they have to be working on a PS4 now, regardless of whether those videos were real or not.
It seems like they're working on something. Sony Worldwide Studios head Shuhei Yoshida is already talking new console in a recent interview with Develop. They are "undergoing many activities that we haven't yet been talking about in public. Some future platform related activities."
"When Ken Kutaragi moved on and Kaz Hirai became the new president of SCE, the first thing Kaz said was, 'get Worldwide Studios in on hardware development'," Yoshida said. "So he wanted developers in meetings at the very beginning of concepting new hardware, and he demanded SCE people talk to us [developers]."
Doing their homework and actually including what developers want in the next Sony console is a very smart move. An "easier" PS4 or PSP2 would be good for everyone.
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5:00 PM on 07.06.2010 | 
I'm pretty sure they've been 'working' on the PS4 since before the PS3 was released, same for Microsoft and Nintendo.
It is certainly not "too soon" to be talking about a PS4, we are about 4 years into this cycle (I think), time for some badass new hardware if you ask me.
Ideas guys?
Nintendo already said their next home console would be 3D ready, which means they're anticipating the consumer market to be more 3D friendly sometime later. Matter of time then?
If the mod scene has proven anything, the easier you make the SDK to work with, the more people are going to work with it, the higher chance you'll see some really good stuff come out. No different here, if you can spend less time just figuring out how to make the tech work, you can spend more time making the game.
I am all for anything new in the next-gen of consoles even if I don't like it. However I like having choice and options. If I am being pushed into something I don't want then that is when you lose a customer.
They mean ten years of SUPPORT, not ten years until the next console. What's so fucking hard to understand? They did the same for both the PS1 and PS2.
Anyway, I'd say 2012 or 2013 for the PS4. R&D takes time, people.
Next time you are talking to them on the topic ask this: How long do they think it takes to come up with a new console? A day? A week? A month? Then, throw in some lengthy tale which is summed by pointing out someone being delusional and some connection with them. Epic lulz.
Less awesome hardware that can be made cheaper
Robust online experience
More ergonomic controller with less buttons and only two top buttons
No motion-control in standard controller
Some sort of memory card that can plug into the controller and download games that are playable on the portable memory card that can then add back onto your existing games on the console.
Smaller, cute system that doesn't make much noise, preferably white
That would be the perfect system.
Or not...
No, they don't.
You make the assumption a PS4 will one day be released, and if that held, then yes, a PS4 is being worked on.
I do not believe a PS4 will one day be released, and thus, I am very surprised to hear talk of a PS4 being worked on. Maybe a PSP2, but I look at the PS3, and find myself surprised that Sony's gaming division hasn't been dismantelled yet.
Oooook, you clearly have no idea what you are looking at if you feel that way, or failed business class in school. Since by that assumption, Nintendo shouldnt be around today to kick everyones ass.
That said, I'm ready for some next gen rumors.
I still don't have a PS3, my 360 and Wii offer more than I have time to play.
I hope one of the Big Three has an announcement at E3 next year, even if it's a year or two away.
I've had my 360 for almost five years now, it's time to start talking next gen.
Nintendo has always been a profittable company even during the gamecube era, and Sony lost more with the PS3 than they gained with the PS1 and PS2 combined.
I don't know what buisness school you went to, but most the people I know seem to think a company shouldn't entangle itself in enterprises that put it into billions of dollars of debt.
1) The controller will look the same.
2) It will use a new format that is incredibly expensive.
3) It will require a 3D HD TV.
4) It won't play PS3 games.
5) It will be so powerful that it takes 4+ years just to hit it's stride.
Actually large companies do that all the time. It's called a "loss leader." Granted Sony surely didn't want to lose money on the PS3 hardware for as long as they did, but they're a big company prepared to take a short term loss that will be covered by profits made over the long term. Even if they only sell half as many PS3's as they do PS3's that's still another 35 Mil units they'll make a profit on. Then there's the slew of other products they already make money on.
@Hcapt - you sir are an idiot if you think Sony's gaming division is going ANYWHERE anytime soon because they lost money on consoles for a few years. THAT'S HOW THE GAMING INDUSTRY WORKS! Lose on hardware, make bigtime on software. Always has until nintendo announced day one profit planned on the 3DS.
Whoever said MS will absorb Sony's gaming division - have you ever done stand-up? You're a funny guy!
Do not forget people, across the globe there are MORE people playing WORKING PS3's than there are people playing working 360's.
I would be stoked if Sony just decided with the PS4, "you know what, Fuck America, we'll sell this to rest of the World and they can just keep their fucking Xboxes" i mean it's the ONLY place in the World where Sony are treated like 2nd best as far as real console gaming goes (not including the toy market buying up the wii)
The PlayStation 4.
It's better than chocolate!
They lost 5 billion dollars on the PS3. To put that into perspective, the PlayStation 3 was the most expensive failure in the history of gaming, about 5X more expensive than the RRoD fiasco, ate through over half of Sony's retained earnings and is 2 billion dollars more than the entire net profit they gained from the PS2. It is simply impossible to make that money back on the PS3, even if it started selling better than the Wii. The PlayStation 3 model of business is completely unsustainable in the long term, and is unacceptable in any corporation.
Investors aren't stupid, but it would be stupid to invest in the company that makes the PS4 after having made the PS3, as an investor is fully aware that the PS3 can never achieve a net profit in it's lifetime. I'd be surprised if Sony could get a PS4 through it's investors.
PS3 itself lost $3B and change which is a lot less than what XBox bled from Microsoft. On the other hand PS3 probably helped cement the win for BD as the high-def video disc, and Sony makes a lot of money from owning the rights to media formats like that.
What I want from PS4 - quieter, faster disc reads, way higher specs obviously... like 4 Cell processors and a mind-blowing graphics card... compatible with PS3 peripherals, emulator software for PS 1-3 and Portable.
1 put out a system that's affordable for the masses on day 1
2 it releases before or at least at the same time as MS's and Nintendo's next console
3 it's not so "difficult" to develop for
4 it has some kind of clear edge on the competition
I feel like the PS3 is going strong now that it's hit its stride. A PS4 wouldn't have to expand too much on the existing hardware. I'm no tech wiz or anything, but it seems like something as simple as a much stronger GPU taking some of the strain off the cell processor could make a world of difference. Not to mention what a stronger cell or a dual cell or a quad cell could do. I'd guess blu-ray is still going to be a viable format for the next gen and with the prevalence of digital distribution and the low cost of digital storage I'll bet we'll be seeing systems with 1tb+ internal memory.
Can I have some links to back up your estimates regarding player numbers for the consoles? I ask because I'm pretty sure there arent...,,,
"MORE people playing WORKING PS3's than there are people playing working 360's".
Your spurious claims become more delusional by the day.
"I would be stoked if Sony just decided with the PS4, "you know what, Fuck America, we'll sell this to rest of the World and they can just keep their fucking Xboxes"
Sexual chocolate.....spitting his dummy in Americas general direction because he thinks he lost some ground in a war that exsists soley in his fragile mind.
*exasperated sigh*
Again, the "ten year cycle" includes the time when the PS4 is out and Sony is still supporting the PS3. The PS3 came out in 2006, Persona 4 was released on the PS2in 2008. Like that. The PS3 will have been out six or seven years by the time the PS4 comes out, then Sony supports the PS3 for 3-4 more years after that. BOOM, 10 years.
I'm not even a huge Sony fan, but fucking hell, use your brains. This little thing called "logic" is lost on the majority of gamers. It's really quite frightening...