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Sony: 3D could make you a little bit better at games photo

I have come to the conclusion that those publishers attempting to peddle 3D gaming to the masses are no starting to come across as snake oil salesmen. So it is that Sony has added another miracle cure to 3D's list of extraordinary powers -- it could make you slightly better at videogames!

"If you're playing a racing game and you're getting some additional [3D] information you can actually measure distances with your eyes, making it easier to judge breaking," claims Sony's Simon Benson. "Many of our hardcore gamers are already pretty good at that anyway, so how much of an edge is it going to give them compared to someone who's only just tried a game for the first time?

"We often see that if you give the controller to someone for the first time they might crash a lot until they get used to the fact that they've got to use other cues to perceive distances and breaking and stuff like that, but suddenly you can give a controller to someone to play a stereoscopic driving game and even if they've not played it before the cues are more relevant to them because they're used to measuring things with their eyes and they really do feel like it's more familiar to them."

Benson did admit that hardcore gamers might experience a smaller increase in gaming power than total newcomers, but that he believes that a slight edge over HDTV users could still be there. Of course, this is mostly hypothetical, and depends on whether a gamer can perform while vomiting, dealing with headaches, and keeping the glasses on his face.

Sony: 3D Can Make Games More Accessible [Edge]








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drzero3's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 17:44
drzero3
I play games so I don't have to deal with reality.

I'm calling bullshit on Sony.
SBC Slam's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 17:49
SBC Slam
You leave Mr. West-Dickens out of this!
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 17:53
llort het
Well it could help in platformer games. I can't tell you how Many times my mom or sister tried to get under a block in Mario 64, jump to destroy it, but it turns out they were actually a foot ahead of the block. Now of course they could have used the block's shadow, but 3d could have helped. Now leave it to Sony to leave out a useful example, but mention a racing game. I'm surprised he didn't talk about how 3d could help you in a fps.
Telephis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 17:59
Telephis
he is right, though
Handy's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:00
Handy
Also motion controls can increase your penis size...
X3Ent3nte's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:00
X3Ent3nte
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amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:03
amtalx
Don't drink the Kool-Aid kids...
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:10
RichardBlaine
One Snake Oil, please!
SuperNekoChan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:15
SuperNekoChan
I know that HD has given me an edge over non HD players back in 2008 so i really don't see why 3d wouldn't help a little with certain kinds of games, as long as its implemented accurately.
spineofsnow's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:19
spineofsnow
Except that what he's saying actually makes sense.
Malik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:20
Malik
Is Jim serious?
Caspulex's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:21
Caspulex
I think the guy meant to say "braking" unless they call it "breaking" wherever he is.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:22
pokota
He's right about the problem with racing games, though I have no idea if 3D does actually help. No one is able to jump right in and do well on a new track, even if it's a game they've already logged dozens of hours on already. There is no depth perception, so a person has to develop new cues based on experience, such as "start braking just after the grandstand ends". In real life, we'd do it by judging distance, but that doesn't work so well in 2D. It would be AWESOME if 3D does help in that regard, but I kind of doubt it. I really, really want to see if the 3D element to Motorstorm helps with all the crap going on at once, though.

Oops .. crap, forgot this was a Sterling post. I'll rephrase; OMG your hilarious jim SONY IS SO DUMB and 3D sucks because Nintendo is better!!
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:22
faultymoose
Jim: I'm impressed that you managed to finish an article about Sony with some degree of informative reporting.

Also: they're kind of right, in my experience. I own the Wicked3D hardware for PC. I remember playing Deus Ex and other FPS games and finding that any kind of projectile weapon became ridiculously easy to dodge because spatial awareness was so much better.
Lakitu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:23
Lakitu
Epic header image. Thanks Jim.
AwesomeJon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:23
AwesomeJon
EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS TRUE!

I HAVE PLAYED RAD RACER IN 3D.
Spaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:25
Spaz
Sony is humping this hype train hard lol.
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:31
Uber Mashu
Of course the "effect" won't be as beneficial to more hardcore gamers. We already get enough visual exercise at it is.

This is just fancy talk for "Videogames will help improve your hand eye coordination" but with 3D thrown in at the start of that sentence.
Malik's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:38
Malik
No Uber Mashu, he's saying that 3D can help in racing games. There is nothing universal being said about hand eye coordination. It is clear and succinct. There is no "fancy talk".
AlphaJC's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:45
AlphaJC
Wow really sony that is the bigest peice of shit PR garbage i hav ever heard. Fail attempt at selling 3D to average gamer is fail.
DtoidBadMrK's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 18:49
DtoidBadMrK
It'll make you shit flowers and burp rainbows with gold at the end.
CRAZYAPE69's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:07
CRAZYAPE69

''I have a cure for all ailments, Mr Marston.''
pbrand's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:10
pbrand
Jim... this is the best header image you've ever used.

Thank you.
flea friend's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:11
flea friend
@Caspulex

I believe what he really meant to say was "Breakin'", and that the qutoe should be attributed to Shabba Doo.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:17
Los255
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GoldBlaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:29
GoldBlaze
Spin!
B34n's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:45
B34n
I adore this header image.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:46
the7k
3D sucks hard, there's no way it could assist in your gaming.[/rant from someone who has never experienced 3D outside of the Virtual Boy]
pl0x kthanxbai's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:49
pl0x kthanxbai
well his argument... makes sense


really, snake oil comparisons aside, thats actually a valid a argument regarding 3D
IonDan's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 19:51
IonDan
Bullshit even in "dashboard view" playing a racing game is absolutely nothing like driving IRL. 3D won't help you brake better because you're still missing several other stimuli you'd get while driving.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 20:02
LittleBigD
Ummm....okie dokie. I'm one of the few people boosting 3D, but saying that playing a game in 3D might make you better at the game is as silly as some of the lame reasons people come up with to hate 3D. I'm not saying it's impossible, but for the most part 3D is just a feature to spruce up the graphics.
bickle's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 20:18
bickle
Actually, I can see it helping quite a bit. Two examples: ever done the Malygos encounter in WoW? Sure, it's ezmode now, but it was somewhat difficult back in the day. The hardest part was where all the teammates fly around in 3D space, and have to travel as a pack. But without a 3D view, it's hard to accurately judge distances.

Example two: Remember how awesome 2D platformers were? And how 3D platformers basically suck anytime you need to do precision jumping? That's because you can't accurately judge 3D space. If you could, jumping sections would be a breeze.
masterninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 20:21
masterninja
This seems like it makes sense i can also see 3d being handy in more realistic fps games as a sniper with bullets being affected by gravity.

Things might be easier to juddge for those who dont pick a sniper as default.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 20:30
pokota
@bickle
You might want to lay off on the logic a bit. Sterling posts are a bit like Bizarro world, in that logic doesn't really apply. He doesn't actually care if something is true or not, as long as it can be twisted to suit his purposes.

Interesting examples, though. I can't help but wonder if the illusion of depth would help in sports games, particularly baseball. You know, I wasn't much enthused for 3D, but thanks to Sterlings constant bashing, I'm starting to see some possibilities.
Corbanski's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 21:28
Corbanski
I get the feeling that people are hating 3D because it is pushed by Sony.

Aside from the possibility of making games easier, I would love to try a game in 3D just for the experience.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 21:29
hpv
I don't know if 3D will make you any better at racing games but it sure as fuck looks a lot better.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 21:50
BS3 Owner
How many American Fanboys Have To Die???!!?
glandseck's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 22:44
glandseck
In theory, the 3D thing is correct. Distances (in screen depth) are easier to judge when playing a 3D game. I'm not entirely sure why making games easier would be a selling point, though.
kaizokuonii's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 23:29
kaizokuonii
This is pretty much retarded. I swear to God if they start charging me extra for mandatory 3D stuff, I'm boycotting games.

Jim, you're 100% right--3D Peddlers=Snake Oil Salesmen.
Turbofail's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 23:48
Turbofail
"making it easier to judge breaking"
lol, it's braking you jackass.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/14/2010 23:54
pokota
You do realize that he probably didn't transcribe his own interview?
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 02:23
CelicaCrazed
Sony, I'm already pretty awesome. Are you sure you want to unleash an awesomer CelicaCrazed on the world?? Is it worth it??
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 06:24
Sexualchocolate
I agree entirely that a huge amount of 3D bashing is Sony bashing in disguise.

If Microsoft were pushing 3D you would all be like "Fucking yeah! Halo is goin to be teh roxors in 3D Whooooo!" "Console warz overz whooo we got's da future, we gots da 3Dz!"

Luckily Nintendo has no glasses for the 3DS because that gives fanboys an excuse to like the 3DS while HATING Sony's home 3D solution. You do realise that if a 3D TV + Glasses hurt your fragile eyes or your fragile brain, then a 3DS will likely have the same effect? Right?

Back when stereoscopic 3D was REALLY new tech (talking a couple of years ago, way before Avatard), I was lucky enough to get to a gaming convention in England, i played a Counter Strike style Half life mod in (very early development) stereoscopic 3D and a game similar to Need For Speed. It was fucking awesome!

Barely noticed the glasses once you were engrossed in the game, my perfectly functioning eyes didn't hurt at all and the effect was AWESOME.

As someone who has PLAYED GAMES with (very early) active shutter / stereoscopic 3D technology I can safely say I'm super stoked for 3D and will happily put a couple of grand down on a 3D TV when they're readily available and once the "early adopter price" has passed. Hell i'm even more than happy to spend a couple of hundred quid on 4+ pairs of nice glasses. - For movie nights.

Seriously, once you've actually used modern glasses-required 3D to play some games THEN you can bitch and moan and say how shit it is. I can't wait to hit up the Sony Style store in town to check it out.
Palin_RMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 07:02
Palin_RMA
I hate all 3D!
Budogenkai's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 09:40
Budogenkai
John West Dickens?!?!
Budogenkai's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 09:42
Budogenkai
Woops meant Nigel West Dickens, now we know the true identity of John Marston.
E Prinny's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 10:35
E Prinny
Still don't see the hype over 3D its nice for 5 mins but after that its an after thought. Just give me good games that play well and have a well written story Sony is that so fucking hard. Oh I forgot you're too busy pushing snake oil to dumbass hipsters with too much money burning in their pockets.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 16:58
BoomingEchoes
Considering the majority of Sony's fanbase (e.g. Japan) says they don't like 3D and would prefer not to use it at all I call total bullshit.

It's just "Well it'll make non-gamers better at games" crap.. Considering Nintendo corners the market on casual gaming without using 3D -or even powerful graphics- we can just chalk this up to Sony actually trying to find a reason to shovel shit down our throats instead of just going ahead and doing it.
The Pilgrums's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 17:25
The Pilgrums
Love the header image. Too bad most people that see it probably won't get the joke. Ah well. A+ for the effort.
DowskiBomb's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/15/2010 19:54
DowskiBomb
oh god. Thats all they needed to say to get a bunch of sales out of this bull
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