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Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2 not coming to Wii photo

SEGA has confirmed that the second episode of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 won't be coming to the Wii. An official reason for the snub has not been given, but brand manager Ken Balough has said that SEGA still supports Nintendo systems ... obviously. 

"The reason Episode I was on the Wii was because we wanted to bring the Sonic 4 saga to the widest possible audience," he said. "Episode II unfortunately will not be coming to the Wii -- for reasons most people have probably guessed, but that doesn’t mean the SEGA isn’t supporting Nintendo platforms, we have a very strong partnership and will continue to do so."

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BkV's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:02
BkV
Nintendo is boooooomed.
Sonic booomed I tells you.
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:03
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes
Nintendo do is doomed boycott! Boycott! Boycott!
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:06
Chris Carter
Who only owns a Wii nowadays? This thing is probably coming to PC, iDevices, possibly Androids, 360, and PS3.

No one buys anything on WiiWare, but it maybe could have came to the eShop, which is full of people who want to buy things but only have 4 things to buy.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:12
The Silent Protagonist
So I'm just left to pity the platforms that are getting it then?
Rue Vermillion's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:12
Rue Vermillion
hope it´s comming to pc, but I wont get my hopes up
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:12
Epic-Kx
What the hell is WiiWare?
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:13
SephirothX
Remember when Sonic was good?









Oh wait, it never was.
RowdyRodimus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:14
RowdyRodimus
So it's either too big or nobody bought the first one.

I'm surprised they are doing the second one anyway, I thought they forgot about it after Generations, Colors, at the Olympics, Sonic and his College Roommate Experiment, Sonic and His Technicolor Dream Coat, Sonic Goes to Sonic, etc...
Xenonas's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:14
Xenonas
Sega does, what Nindendon't care about.
tomoloco's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:14
tomoloco
These episode-style games are a joke anyway! Just wait for the full package when it comes out a year later...
OmegaPlatinum's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:15
OmegaPlatinum
"...for reasons most people have probably guessed..."
So... Wii U?
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:18
Mr Andy Dixon
Don't worry, they'll eventually port the 360 version to the WiiU.
Joe Ess's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:20
Joe Ess
Yeah but does that preclude Wii U? No one should be surprised, or even that much upset for that matter, that a lot of companies are looking past a console that Nintendo is planning on moving on from next year.
arkane9's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:26
arkane9
"Episode II unfortunately will not be coming to the Wii -- for reasons most people have probably guessed"
Is he talking about that Sonic games sell better on Wii than competing platforms? Cause yeah, that reason makes so much sense. That sure was the first and foremost reason I could think of. /drippingwithsarcasm
pizzaboxjellyfish's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:30
pizzaboxjellyfish
I'd be very surprised if it doesn't come to Wii U.
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:32
GoodGuyA
Ya Jim, you're one to call out people raising the doom flag, after you spent the last few months lambasting Nintendo. Even before that, with the 3DS' somehow "failure" sales.

Oh yeah, the actual news. Meh.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:35
Jim Sterling
GoodGuyA: The irony is, I am actually calling out people like who who raised the "omg Dtoid said Nintendo is doomed" flag when all I've ever said was that the 3DS was a risky prospect that launched too early.

So, good job providing a neat example of that.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:39
Chris Carter
@GoodGuy
Nintendo is making stupid decisions, despite the fact that Mario can print money. It's perfectly ok to call out a multi-billion dollar worldwide corporation - you don't owe them anything.

@arkane
Wii retail Sonic games sell, because of the kiddies, and because parents can walk by Target Electronics when shopping, see, Sonic, and buy it.

Not WiiWare, which parents and kids can't seem to figure out - sales are absysmal. I've heard of small devs actually losing money putting games on WiiWare.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:45
KingSigy
That probably means Wii U, then. I doubt Sega would not want to make money, though Generations didn't come to Wii either.
Deth Garcia's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:47
Deth Garcia
1 is WiiU is coming next year
2 is the 40mb limit on WiiWare games
3 is Wii is not HD
4 all
pick your favorite
Alfalfa's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:54
Alfalfa
@SephirothX: Sonic Generations, Sonic Colors, hell even Sonic Unleashed; as flawed as it was, it was still loads of fun.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:57
Smo5000
Uhhhh, what the fuck? That's not really an answer.

@magnalon
VVVVVV, Metroid 2, Kirby's adventure, Kirby's dreamland, Bionic Commando, Mighty Switch Force, tetris, adventure island, catrap, mega man, super mario land 2. 4 things on eshop??

Come on dude, you're talking about a time where people buy iOS games of ninja cutting fruit, of course people buy things on wiiware.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 09:59
Scuffles
@Magnalon

.... I only own a Wii (well outside my PC)

No real compelling reasons to pick up any of the other systems. I was looking forward to Last guardian but .... that looks sketchy at best. Disgaea3 & 4 are likely to come out on the next gen of handhelds which really removed it as a motivator for the consoles.

Of course the only real reason I picked up a Wii was Skyward Sword .... which sorta turned out to be a bit of a disappointment. Hopefully Xenoblade makes up for that in spades :)

*Goes back to PC gaming
Timtoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:00
Timtoid
Why would you want to widen your audience if you weren't planning on selling to them again?
Levi Elwood Myers's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:00
Levi Elwood Myers
@GoodguyA
I completely agree with Jim when it comes to the 3ds, it was a terrible little system at launch and a huge troll on a lot of us who spent 250 on a system that had a inferior version of SFIV at launch. It was a even bigger troll on a few of us who spent 250 bucks to play Mega Man Legends 3 which got canned without even giving Prototype a chance, now we pretty much have to shell out another 20 bucks for a little slider attachment. Not to mention Nintendos "compensation" for the people who spent 250 on a terrible system.. we got some games that can be easily played by other methods. In the end this system was a huge troll, and I still wish I would have just saved my money seeing as I still only have about 3 games coming out next year for that God awful little piece of crap.. Makes me sad that the Vita probably won't sell well when there is a system that has a GREAT line up, impressive hard ware, and over all better quality.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:05
Chris Carter
@Smo
Port; port; port; port; port; also on Playstation Minis; 20 year old port; port; port; port; port. This topic is in regards to original content selling well on the eShop (ie what SEGA is after, and is referring to in this article) - the only things I've seen that have been proven to sell well on the eShop are Link's Awakening DX and Pushmo (both Nintendo), and the 4 WayForward games (2 of which have been ported).

Some people buy games on Nintendo's digital fronts - but sales figures show that out of all outlets, WiiWare is consistently the lowest in sales, and many developers feel like it's a waste of time to deal with Nintendo, and the 50MB limit, when they can just put it on Steam/Xbox Live using the most common coding framework that most people already have.

@Scuffles
Disgaea 3 is confirmed for the Vita :D
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:09
Chris Carter
Also:

"Come on dude, you're talking about a time where people buy iOS games of ninja cutting fruit, of course people buy things on wiiware."

Those are original games that cost under a dollar, on a device people always have on them 100% of the time, that can do a hundred of other things.

You're comparing those experiences to 20 year old ports, for $8, on a dedicated gaming hanheld. Not the same market.

Also read the link I posted above.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:13
Smo5000
'08 sales charts: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/2580/channel-surfing-worldwide-virtual-consolewiiware-sales-chart-11-9-/

Yup, parents definitely cant understand how wiiware works. /sarcasm

@magnalon

Zallag...really dude? Im pretty sure that company folded because of the utter shit it was pumping out. Gods vs. Humans and some shitty racing game isnt going to keep an indie company afloat. Add to this the piss poor economy and the fact that thousands of people have no idea how to maintain a business.
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:20
Dr-Peace
@Jim Sterling

Keep on back-pedalling Jim, it ain't working but it's funny. You were on a crusade to complain about the 3DS every 5 seconds (giving the impression that you wanted it to fail just to prove you right), Nintendo ended up succeeding within the year as smart people (like me) said they likely would since it would have games at that point.

You have egg on your face, and the best thing to do would be just to let it go.


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@Levi Elwood Myers

What exactly are you complaining about?

The fact that YOU bought a system you were well aware didn't have much out?

The fact that Nintendo gave MANY FREE THINGS LASTING POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF HOURS when they didn't have to give you ANYTHING?


Maybe you should have waited like the rest of us, because the fact of the matter is all systems have a poor launch. You can only blame yourself.



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Well if Sega want to be dumb then they can go right ahead, this whole episodic Sonic thing is boring and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Make Sonic Adventure 3. Make it great like Sonic Adventure 2. Simple.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:22
Chris Carter
@Karu
Damn them for putting Sonic 4 Episode 1 on WiiWare, thinking it would make money, and when it didn't, opting to make the rational decision to not put Episode 2 on there!

Damn that stupid company that's ran by money for wanting to make money! I'm glad Nintendo doesn't run on money!
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:27
KingSigy
@Levi Elwood Myers

No one says to have to buy the circle pad attachment. I have a 3DS now and have no intention of buying that extra peripheral ever.
FrDougal9000's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:27
FrDougal9000
(Looks at screencap) That was the first episode of Sonic X I saw.Yay,nostalgia! Back on topic....meh.

@SephirothX trollolololololololololololololololol
GoodGuyA's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:30
GoodGuyA
@ Magnalon- Never said it wasn't a bad prospect, just that Jim was participating heavily in the hyperbole. There has been no indication that the 3dS was a BOMB like it's been presented. They didn't make nearly as much as they thought, yes, but they still make returns.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:34
Chris Carter
Now keep in mind that I myself am a whore for ports, because I'm crazy, and like everything - so I enjoy playing old games on the 3DS for the tenth time. But you can't deny that many, many small devs and large publishers have snubbed Nintendo's digital fronts.

It's not because "they hate Nintendo", or anything stupid like that - from a business sense, they can't make enough money sometimes. If they could make money, they would - it's pretty simple.
Levi Elwood Myers's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:35
Levi Elwood Myers
@Dr-Peace
Nah, I'm complaining for the fact that Nintendo delivered a shitty console... again. The 3d is nothing special, the graphics are nowhere near as good as they had made them out to be, and now we have to shell out even more money for something that should have been on the console to begin with, the circle pad. Not to mention the fact it's region locked. That console in nowhere near what it was supposed to be. The fact there were no games at launch I could get past, the fact that there still really aren't that many games, and the ones that did come out are pretty mediocre at best, and yes, I mean Zelda which I still think could have been a helluva lot better in terms of a "remake", and mario kart 7... still the same game. In the end that console is a failure, it may have sold well because peoples mommies bought it for them on Christmas, but it still is a piece of trash system in my opinion.Also, I shouldn't be punished for buying something new, that's not how anything works. Nintendo is a dick for doing so.
While I agree that it's never a bad thing to turn down free games, it hardly makes up for the HUGE price drop within the same year. 20 old games does not make up for a 80 dollar price drop within a year of a systems launch.
Again, I agree with Sterling, this system was and probably still is a huge troll on us, but oh well.
Janklogs's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:36
Janklogs
@Magnalon: "Who only owns a Wii nowadays?"

I do. I'm not too crushed by this news, though, since I'm a multiconsole gamer. The news kinda makes sense, what with the Wii U just around the corner.
Levi Elwood Myers's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:38
Levi Elwood Myers
@KingSigy
I'm pretty sure it has been stated that a few games will require the circle pad, not to mention the ones that don't will probably leave you with one major hand cramp. Your not forced to buy one, no, but to enjoy future games you pretty much have to.
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:42
Captain of the Zanarkand Abes
K that header just looks hilarious
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:43
Kyle MacGregor
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who likes WiiWare.
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:46
SephirothX
@Karu
A company that doesn't care about money is either a stupid company, or out of business.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:47
Smo5000
@magnalon

Lol! Yeah because a company will retract their game from a digital distributor in order to NOT make more money. Thats the best business decision anyone has ever made. We all know how companies detest making money on multiple fronts.

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2010/11/sonic-4-1-game-on-psn-wiiware-fails-to-chart-on-appstore/

The funny thing is, I'm not even a Sonic fan. i just think its foolish to think nothing sells on wiiware when Sonic4 ep1 and World of Goo have proven otherwise.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:49
Chris Carter
It takes development time, assets/money, staff, and manpower to port games multiple platforms. It doesn't happen magically by coding one game, pressing a button, and getting eight frameworks.
Jinx 01's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:49
Jinx 01
I'm sure they will eventually port it to every electronic device known to man, just like their Genesis catalog. Hell, in ten years you'll be able to buy Sonic 4 for your fucking TOASTER.

Hope signs pointing toward a PC release are right. I get the impression Generations sold very well on PC, maybe that will encourage them.
Kazumi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 10:59
Kazumi
That's somewhat disappointing. I originally bought Episode 1 on my Wii, and it would be kind of nice to get Episode 2 on my Wii as well. Not really a big deal though, as I can always get it on pretty much everything else I own.
Spite's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:00
Spite
This game looked better on the Wii than on Xbox. I played the Xbox demo and the HD graphics made Sonic look all shiny in a bad way. Plus the wii remote d-pad was more usable than the Xbox one.

I don't blame them for not releasing it on the Wii, but it would have been nice if you own a Wii and get an episodic game to be able to play episode 2 on the same system you bought episode 1 on.
amtalx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:01
amtalx
Sonic's rape face is pretty serious...
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:08
Smo5000
@magnalon
I'm aware of that, but since we dont own Sega or know its inner workings, you cant say that they wouldnt make a profit. For all we know they could be waiting for some sort of development kit in order to port it to WiiU down the line.

Anyway, great convo lol
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:12
catsithx
Oh well I'll get it on the wii u is all when and if it comes out next year.
arkane9's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2011 11:20
arkane9
@Magnalon
I guess you have a point. I only thought about retail Sonic games.
I know Wiiware isn't nearly as popular as XBLA or PSN, but it can't be that much trouble for a big company like Sega to port it to Wiiware.
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