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Patrick Marchal, technical director at Cities XL developer Monte Cristo has warned that piracy will be the death of PC developers, attacking the ongoing Spore outrage in the process. 

"We have looked at what happened with Spore and, even if we are not fans of DRM, we think that the outcry was a bit over the top," claimed Marchal.  "I think that people need to recognize that piracy is going to kill PC game developers. We will have to find the best way to defend our property without being harsh on legitimate clients."

Trouble is, publishers have so far been quite careless about that last, important factor -- not being harsh on legitimate clients. DRM only affects paying customers. There isn't even any justification for using copy protection anymore. It doesn't work and publishers know it.

I want a publisher to admit that they care more about second-hand games when they impose these limits. That's the one thing DRM is "good" for, and if all Electronic Arts or any other company cared about was piracy, junk like SecuROM wouldn't even be in the equation.








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DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:38
DeusPayne
Home cooking is killing the restaurant industry.
xe-cute's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:43
xe-cute
It will not kill PC games, It will just make them all have a very good multiplayer side to them (or force single player games to connect to net for critical core missing content to stream).


Then you have to have a valid key to play which is checked each time you go online (sod all other types of DRM, like checking disc and making sure it is tied to one computer ID).

Just need to combat against Hamachi VPN, but that is crap anyway to play online with.


simply just make all PC games online only and check for valid registered key and that no one else is using it at that time... BINGO... all the pirates are blown out of the water.


keygens, cracks etc, all useless (valid registered key or you do not have all the code to play online).
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:50
Narishma
xe-cute: Another way is to make the game free and find another way to make money.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:52
Brian Szabelski
TiVO is killing the broadcast television industry.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:53
Kaspar
No, PC game developers will kill PC gaming.
Stupid twat.
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:56
ArrestedDeveloper
I don't know if it will kill them but it does encourage them to develop for console instead of PC. Also, software pirates need to be drug out into the street and shot. I hate anyone who thinks just because they aren't taking a physical copy of something it's ok, developers and directors and musicians worked hard to put out a product and deserve to make money for it.
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 13:59
Spectreman
* What moron. Spore had been cracked before your release. The DRM not affected in nothing about this. DRM in Spore only serves to cut used copies.
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:06
TheDreadHawk
Spectreman: EXPERT.

Also, I think DeusPayne wins an internet.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:07
John B
DRM will kill only those PC games that force draconian DRM. I'm looking forward to purchasing Fallout 3. Yes, I hate that damned disk check as much as anyone else, but it sure as hell beats anything that EA is putting out now and a no CD crack will eventually be available.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:11
Wedge
Yes, I'm sure everybody has been pirating the fuck out of his hit titles like "Wallstreet Trader".
Chris Morris's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:51
Chris Morris
PC is getting to the point where the only games worth releasing for the platform are MMO's. It's the only thing that people can't really pirate. I'm convinced that people have gotten too stupid to game on the PC, that's part of the reason why the 360 exists. Ease of access. I still buy PC games, but only if they have something to offer me that is different from your average console game. PC still has some of the most interesting exclusive games and niche titles as opposed to the FPS saturated console libraries of this current generation.
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:53
Maurice Tan
DRM is needed, because without DRM people would be able to just pirate AAA titles like Crysis and Spore that deserve GOTY awards for the depth of their gameplay.
mr spooky's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:54
mr spooky
Did games kill the apple computer, yes the games are expensive and never really lower the prices. :)
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 14:57
Timmeh
Maybe publishers and developers should stop using stupid DRM that doesn't work and stop treating customers like they are stupid (then again between the mainstream and fanboys they aren't entirely wrong).

The videogame industry has to be one of the most profitable out there at the moment, stop crying about how people are stealing food from your children's mouths.

Sort your pricing out and show some respect for the customer. Today I saw Left4Dead was up for pre-order on Steam. For more money than pre-ordering through a retail store. Maybe someone can justify a game costing more as a digital download from the developer than as a physical product from a third party?

DRM is an erosion of consumer rights and people need to stop justifying it.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 15:02
psycho terror2
@Professor Pew
"DRM is needed, because without DRM people would be able to just pirate AAA titles like Crysis and Spore that deserve GOTY awards for the depth of their gameplay."

STOP MISSING THE POINT!!

people have and do pirate both of those games, and every other game out there. it is in fact possible to pirate ANY GAME on PC or 360 or PSP etc.

the problem is that DRM has no effect on pirates because whoever releases the illegal version of the software REMOVES THE DRM, meaning that only paying customers have to deal with it.

this creates a situation where THE PIRATED VERSION IS BETTER THAN THE RETAIL VERSION DUE TO THE LACK OF DRM.

/rant
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 15:24
Timmeh
@Psycho_Terror

I think you missed the hefty dose of sarcasm that Pew's post was laced with.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 15:32
John B
@Psycho:

{facepalm} That noise you heard was the sonic boom of Pew's sarcasm zipping past your head.

Go back to sleep. :P
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 15:40
psycho terror2
my post was also sarcasm.

you both just got pwned.

yes i am joking.
Jetsetlemming's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 16:45
Jetsetlemming
Used sales will kill console developers.
ZonerDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 16:52
ZonerDude
People like stealing and getting crap they didn't pay for, so piracy will always thrive. PC gaming is definite dying. It's unfortunate, but unless they make games connect to a server to validate a key for play, I'm not sure what else they could do to stop thieves stealing games.
Jack8274's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 16:56
Jack8274
I hear Valve is doing the best in the PC market as they ever have done. Could it be quality gaming, mixed with a interface which surpasses Xbox Live is what will save the PC gaming market, GASP.
Kasmodiah's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 16:57
Kasmodiah
Shitty games will kill video games developers.
Jim's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2008 17:22
Jim
DRM is bad for customers and who is that STUPID GUY talking anyways?
mice elf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 07:46
mice elf
I don't care too much about DRM (it's all about the quality of the game, regardless of what goes with it), but i agree with the man about the size of the Spore outrage.

Imagine, if you will, that train companies decided that they don't like people who don't pay. They introduce a prototype ticket barrier. People do not like the barrier and it is newish technology and easy to get around. People jump over it. They break it again and again. The train company then puts all their resources into a far stronger and more prohibitive system that people can get over if they really try, but most now give up. The train company succeeds and most people pay for their tickets.

DRM is going to get worse before it gets better. At least it gives you something to dampen your underwear over.
capitan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2008 23:14
capitan
dont forget they can also lower the price so that more people can afford it. i think much of the increased piracy going on is because of the new games that cost as much as $70 USD a piece. piracy has gone up since the days of the PS2, GC, and Xbox because they only costed $50 then.
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/18/2008 22:09
Burnt Meatloaf
Stupid investors are what kill industries.
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