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If they wanted to surprise people, they should've used this.
All these stories on Dragon Age have reminded me I need to pre order it... And I've yet to actually see gameplay footage from a console... I'm buying this out of pure faith I have in bioware
I'm psyched for this game, hopefully I'll be able to make room for it with my massive 360 backlog. He's exactly right about the music though. It made me question what the heck they were doing, so I watched more trailers and gameplay videos and got to a point where I didn't give a shit that they were using a shitty song about shit from like 5 years ago.
It's just a song, and it is funny. It's just a game, it would be funny if they had used Nickelback though, now that would be a backlash.
@Covah theres quite a lot of video footage coming from console.
But get it for PC instead man, atleast with that it could be considered a spiritual successor to baldurs gate (isometric camera and all)
But get it for PC instead man, atleast with that it could be considered a spiritual successor to baldurs gate (isometric camera and all)
Goth Pop? I don't even think thats been invented yet....
I love BioWare but man, it seems they are truly out of the loop when it comes to anything outside of videogames. Remember those christmas cards with the Conan/Santa Claus amalgam? And that whole high fantasy-low fantasy marketing strategy they tried which proved only that they didn't know wtf they were talking about?
Hilarious stuff - still, these guys have never dissappointed me when it comes to games (I even liked Jade Empire) so I am confident Dragon Age Origins is going to be ridiculously awesome.
I love BioWare but man, it seems they are truly out of the loop when it comes to anything outside of videogames. Remember those christmas cards with the Conan/Santa Claus amalgam? And that whole high fantasy-low fantasy marketing strategy they tried which proved only that they didn't know wtf they were talking about?
Hilarious stuff - still, these guys have never dissappointed me when it comes to games (I even liked Jade Empire) so I am confident Dragon Age Origins is going to be ridiculously awesome.
This is looking amazing, and honestly the choice of music never bothered me, it seemed to fit in a strange way.
"I think part of the reason it's infamous is because people were surprised and just weren't expecting it. What they expected was a long string of flutes and some harpsichord, perhaps"
...wrong thinking, PR. I just wasn't expecting a shitty song. Any classic Metal tune would have been adequate.
...wrong thinking, PR. I just wasn't expecting a shitty song. Any classic Metal tune would have been adequate.
If this is really a Baldur's Gate revival, EA's marketing team really have no idea what to do with this game. Baldur's Gate is smart, complex and deep, the opposite of the mostly shallow crap people buy now-a-days.
I bet a ton of people buy this on console who have never played this kind of game before and seriously have no idea what to do with it.
I bet a ton of people buy this on console who have never played this kind of game before and seriously have no idea what to do with it.
Thanks for that link, Aurion. I've been watching muppets play metal now for the last 10 minutes. What could be better?
Okay, he twisted this to sound like a statement about the game. From my knowledge, the design team usually doesn't have any input into the marketing campaign, though maybe he heard this from the marketing team. I'm more inclined to think it was a bad choice in music that the marketing team thought would resonate with the audience but was terribly, terribly wrong.
Popular music; rock, goth, rap, or otherwise, in my games usually makes my nose wrinkle; stinks of sponsored music and advertising deals with record companies. Give me a taste of what the in-game music will be like and your far more likely to catch my attention. That is as long as the in-game music is worthwhile.
Popular music; rock, goth, rap, or otherwise, in my games usually makes my nose wrinkle; stinks of sponsored music and advertising deals with record companies. Give me a taste of what the in-game music will be like and your far more likely to catch my attention. That is as long as the in-game music is worthwhile.
I actually really enjoyed the videos till I realized it was Mason... Cuz he annoys the heck out of me. I love all the coverage you guys are giving it!
@zanthox: I hate James Mason too. He's a talentless cunt.
As long as I don't have to listen to a Kid Rock song, I can handle it. If it's Kid Rock though, I'm just going to start burning things until it stops.
As long as I don't have to listen to a Kid Rock song, I can handle it. If it's Kid Rock though, I'm just going to start burning things until it stops.
@zanthox: I hate James Mason too. He's a talentless hack.
As long as I don't have to listen to a Kid Rock song, I can handle it. If it's Kid Rock though, I'm just going to start burning things until it stops.
As long as I don't have to listen to a Kid Rock song, I can handle it. If it's Kid Rock though, I'm just going to start burning things until it stops.
@Magnalon, yes cuz 80's metal would be sooo much better,
Let's see "breakin the law, breakin the law!!!!!"
Ohh much neater ;)
Maybe you meant Slayer, in which case most would actually not
watch the rest of the trailer.
If you guys knew the "meaning" of the song, you'd actually appreciate
it more. It's about prepackaged, recycled product released year after
year as new. And how the grovelling masses lap it up because of boredom.
Seeing how many call it "recycled LotR crap" I find it wholly ironic.
Let's see "breakin the law, breakin the law!!!!!"
Ohh much neater ;)
Maybe you meant Slayer, in which case most would actually not
watch the rest of the trailer.
If you guys knew the "meaning" of the song, you'd actually appreciate
it more. It's about prepackaged, recycled product released year after
year as new. And how the grovelling masses lap it up because of boredom.
Seeing how many call it "recycled LotR crap" I find it wholly ironic.
Also, considering how long (5 years) some ppl have waited for this
monster, the lyrics "c'mon admit it, tomorrow's never coming" (ie.
I can't wait so long for it 2 be released I WANT IT NOW!!!!)are VERY
apt. See Manson is more about lyrics than musicianship.
monster, the lyrics "c'mon admit it, tomorrow's never coming" (ie.
I can't wait so long for it 2 be released I WANT IT NOW!!!!)are VERY
apt. See Manson is more about lyrics than musicianship.
I don't understand the hate around the music choice. Their reasoning makes perfect sense but other people's do not. They made a comment about people not minding the music if they hadn't known it was by Marilyn Manson, which I agree with wholeheartedly. Disregarding the artist of the song and it's shitty history, I felt that if fit the vibe they were going for perfectly.
Marilyn Manson is not my favorite artist, and Goth Pop is certainly not my favorite kind of music (I didn't know there was such a genre until today) but the song fit well with what was going on. I also don't think it's a shitty song, but I do think that Marilyn Manson is shitty. I suppose what it comes down to though to the unbiased crowd is whether or not they like that particular song. By no means is the song definitively shitty.
Marilyn Manson is not my favorite artist, and Goth Pop is certainly not my favorite kind of music (I didn't know there was such a genre until today) but the song fit well with what was going on. I also don't think it's a shitty song, but I do think that Marilyn Manson is shitty. I suppose what it comes down to though to the unbiased crowd is whether or not they like that particular song. By no means is the song definitively shitty.
yep, i just hated it because Manson makes some pretty terrible music. actually, that wasnt totally it - part of the point of the trailer was to say "look at how adult we are!" except that they tried to showcase this by having a "pretty violent" (but uninteresting and somewhat juvenile) song and by showing a lot of videos of people cutting each other up... ie: this is adult because of violence. but there's nothing *particularly* mature about violence - sure, sometimes violence can be utilized in a mature way, but proper maturity and "darkness" comes from proper writing and a proper setting. but if you want testosterone-filled teenaged boys to go "FUCK YEAH!" you can always have people cut each other up or show an explosion or two.
so, showcase for the maturity and darkness of the game? pretty flatly failed, in my view - they made it look more childish than it likely is in reality (at least, i hope!), and that's a bad thing. and violence in games is hardly a new or interesting thing, so it's ridiculous that they figured violence in the ad would shock many people.
as a side note: when will people figure out that Manson's music is not, in any shape or form, Gothic? there's a word for Manson's music - "Metal." sure, not all Metal sounds like it, but there *is* Metal which is simlar to his, whereas there are basically no Gothic bands that sound like Manson. the *closest* i might give is Industrial Rock, but, again, Industrial is another genre which people mistake for Gothic if they dont know much about these genres of music.
Lazaro Cruz:
"Goth Pop? I don't even think thats been invented yet...."
i'd say The Cure fits the bill pretty well (though i'd be hard pressed to name any other examples - not that my knowledge of music is voluminous or anything, mind you).
so, showcase for the maturity and darkness of the game? pretty flatly failed, in my view - they made it look more childish than it likely is in reality (at least, i hope!), and that's a bad thing. and violence in games is hardly a new or interesting thing, so it's ridiculous that they figured violence in the ad would shock many people.
as a side note: when will people figure out that Manson's music is not, in any shape or form, Gothic? there's a word for Manson's music - "Metal." sure, not all Metal sounds like it, but there *is* Metal which is simlar to his, whereas there are basically no Gothic bands that sound like Manson. the *closest* i might give is Industrial Rock, but, again, Industrial is another genre which people mistake for Gothic if they dont know much about these genres of music.
Lazaro Cruz:
"Goth Pop? I don't even think thats been invented yet...."
i'd say The Cure fits the bill pretty well (though i'd be hard pressed to name any other examples - not that my knowledge of music is voluminous or anything, mind you).
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