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Well that's shady bullshit. Did not know they charged for touch updates. Looks like I will never get an ipod.
Sound like necessarylegal mumbo Jumbo so that they don't have to support it in 3 years when they stop making the crappy ipad.
It has something to do with reporting their taxes as it costs apple some moola to release major updates so they have to account for it with a 4.99 fee
I still don't understand why the iPad exists. I thought the whole idea was smaller was more convenient, this more futuristic. Then again it's more about being like a laptop than like how the Touch is.
Oh, I get it. They're testing the waters right now. They want to see how ridiculous they can make shit this before people won't buy it. It's like, if she doesn't complain when you stick it in the wrong whole, you might as well just pound away. And if she does, play it off as an accident.
And people still buy this crap?
Apple is a company filled to the brim with shit, they make shiny pieces of trendy hardware and the whole world bends over for them, ignoring the fact that other devices do the same thing, only better.
I'll never pay for anything made by Apple, ever.
Apple is a company filled to the brim with shit, they make shiny pieces of trendy hardware and the whole world bends over for them, ignoring the fact that other devices do the same thing, only better.
I'll never pay for anything made by Apple, ever.
Folks should not complain because we are outright privileged to own Mac products, and should be thankful they even accept, through their grace, our petty, dirty money.
Huh. I never paid for my iPod touch OS updates. But this really is a douche move, and this is coming from a huge mac fanboy.
I guess it'll probably be cheap (like $10-20, hell Snow Leopard was only $30), but that's still very obviously them testing the waters to see how far they can go.
Dick move, Apple.
I guess it'll probably be cheap (like $10-20, hell Snow Leopard was only $30), but that's still very obviously them testing the waters to see how far they can go.
Dick move, Apple.
Sarbanes-Oxley Act. As Steve Jobs said here, "It's the law."
Using the $700 high-end model's price, rather than the $500 base model's price, is a tad disingenuous. I don't see anyone doing that when referring to the Xbox 360 or PS3, do you?
Using the $700 high-end model's price, rather than the $500 base model's price, is a tad disingenuous. I don't see anyone doing that when referring to the Xbox 360 or PS3, do you?
The iPhone and the iPod touch/iPad are essentially two different platform models.
Main thing with the iPhone and iPod touch is that I have to pay a subscription fee to keep using my iPhone (that being my monthly wireless bill), where as iPod touch owners can easily switch to another device without any problems or early termination fees and crap. However, they also reserve the right to not give me everything the latest iPhones will have. I have a first gen model, and I don't get MMS (which is dumb because it should have been in there from day one).
The iPad is basically a portable computer, albeit with limitations, but it would still fall under the same category as something like a laptop. That said, charging for OS updates shouldn't come with a knee-jerk reaction of, "OH MAH GAWD APPUH US JUS BEIN DOOSH!" You pay for OS upgrades on your computer, this is really no different.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Apple's farts smell like cinnamon buns, but there really is some logic to the matter.
Main thing with the iPhone and iPod touch is that I have to pay a subscription fee to keep using my iPhone (that being my monthly wireless bill), where as iPod touch owners can easily switch to another device without any problems or early termination fees and crap. However, they also reserve the right to not give me everything the latest iPhones will have. I have a first gen model, and I don't get MMS (which is dumb because it should have been in there from day one).
The iPad is basically a portable computer, albeit with limitations, but it would still fall under the same category as something like a laptop. That said, charging for OS updates shouldn't come with a knee-jerk reaction of, "OH MAH GAWD APPUH US JUS BEIN DOOSH!" You pay for OS upgrades on your computer, this is really no different.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Apple's farts smell like cinnamon buns, but there really is some logic to the matter.
It's not that bad. It's lame, but it isn't atrocious really.
And Interlink is right. Please people. Be thankful for what you have.
And Interlink is right. Please people. Be thankful for what you have.
@ModernTenshi04
We pay for NEW OS's, not updates and upgrades. There's a difference between paying for Windows 7 as opposed to paying for Windows XP Service Pack 2.
We pay for NEW OS's, not updates and upgrades. There's a difference between paying for Windows 7 as opposed to paying for Windows XP Service Pack 2.
lol @ ModernTenshin04. "You pay for OS upgrades on your computer, this is really no different. "
Really?REally? When the hell does that happen? Like RenegadePanda said, you only pay for NEW OS's, not the upgrades to that OS.
Really?REally? When the hell does that happen? Like RenegadePanda said, you only pay for NEW OS's, not the upgrades to that OS.
Don't be silly billies. It's probably MAJOR upgrades like Mac users always pay for: Tiger, Panther, Leopard, Snow Leopard.
silly billies...
silly billies...
@ModernTenshi04
As renegadepanda said, you are paying for the privilege of having a non-buggy product. It's the same OS, just with bug fixes. Seriously fuck Steve. Only Apple products I buy are old vintage ones.
@Dv8thwonder
Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple and creator of the Apple 1 and 2, is a really nice guy. He disagreed with the ways Jobs ran Apple and quit in the 80s sometime after the release of the Macintosh(Still get's paid tho).
As renegadepanda said, you are paying for the privilege of having a non-buggy product. It's the same OS, just with bug fixes. Seriously fuck Steve. Only Apple products I buy are old vintage ones.
@Dv8thwonder
Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple and creator of the Apple 1 and 2, is a really nice guy. He disagreed with the ways Jobs ran Apple and quit in the 80s sometime after the release of the Macintosh(Still get's paid tho).
I hate all the apple stuff. They say they want their products to be simpler, but they charge you for everything. Mac users are like a bunch of retards, completely brainwashed by apple.
The move is lame and cheap.
The move is lame and cheap.
@ModernTenshi04
So by your logic all mp3 players should charge for firmware updates, as well as any windows based tablets. Hell even ps3/360/wii should charge for their firmware updates.
I'll pass on paying for them to fix their bugs, and adding features they have to add to stay competitive.
So by your logic all mp3 players should charge for firmware updates, as well as any windows based tablets. Hell even ps3/360/wii should charge for their firmware updates.
I'll pass on paying for them to fix their bugs, and adding features they have to add to stay competitive.
Don't like it, don't buy it. They have the right to do so, vote with your dollars people. I know I won't be buying one.
surely we all know apples business model by now?
Or have we not used actual mac and just used their mp3 players?
Mac os updates are a cunt and hella expensive. I'm a long way from surprised that it's gonna be the same with this giant ipod.
Or have we not used actual mac and just used their mp3 players?
Mac os updates are a cunt and hella expensive. I'm a long way from surprised that it's gonna be the same with this giant ipod.
Makes me glad I only have one Apple product.
Hacked to use Rockbox.
With a modded WinAmp to not need iTunes.
Anyone who buys Apple products and lets this happen is an idiot in the same league as people who support Activision's bloated prices, supporting paying more for less just because OMG IT'S SHINY AND HAS THE APPLE LOGO.
Hacked to use Rockbox.
With a modded WinAmp to not need iTunes.
Anyone who buys Apple products and lets this happen is an idiot in the same league as people who support Activision's bloated prices, supporting paying more for less just because OMG IT'S SHINY AND HAS THE APPLE LOGO.
That's great, charging for mandatory firmware updates. And if you don't get them, the software stops working. What a load of mother.....
Fuckers. Apples business practices are becoming increasing evil. They've become worse than microsoft.
having said all that, I don't have an Ipod touch and therefore have never paid to upgrade it. I suppose I could be talking out of my ass...
You're all retarded, thinking I don't know the difference between an UPDATE and a god damn UPGRADE.
No fuck you don't pay for updates, those wonderful little things filled with security fixes and service enhancements. What you DO pay for, fuckwits, are new features.
THAT is what you'll be paying for with the iPad.
You going from 1.0 to 1.0.3 or 1.5? You're not gonna pay.
You go from 1.0 to 2.0? Yeah, more than likely going to pay, especially if they include new features and software and shit.
Jim even indicated that minor updates, which include things like security patches and feature enhancements, will be free, and you'll likely get one free major update (that would be something like a 1.0 to 2.0 update), but after that you're either buying a new iPad, or paying for the MAJOR upgrades, not the MINOR updates.
Jesus fucking christ people.
Also, as others have pointed out, this is a matter guided by fucking law, not by Apple being money grubbing bastards.
Seriously, the knee jerk reactions from some people.
No fuck you don't pay for updates, those wonderful little things filled with security fixes and service enhancements. What you DO pay for, fuckwits, are new features.
THAT is what you'll be paying for with the iPad.
You going from 1.0 to 1.0.3 or 1.5? You're not gonna pay.
You go from 1.0 to 2.0? Yeah, more than likely going to pay, especially if they include new features and software and shit.
Jim even indicated that minor updates, which include things like security patches and feature enhancements, will be free, and you'll likely get one free major update (that would be something like a 1.0 to 2.0 update), but after that you're either buying a new iPad, or paying for the MAJOR upgrades, not the MINOR updates.
Jesus fucking christ people.
Also, as others have pointed out, this is a matter guided by fucking law, not by Apple being money grubbing bastards.
Seriously, the knee jerk reactions from some people.
@The Stripe: Umm, those are new OS's, not just bug fix updates. This is like paying for the service packs that WindowsXP received, which no one paid for.
The logic is simple, don't buy an ipad/touch. Itunes itself is the worst form of DRM since it locks you into apple devices.
Midnght owl stop being such an apple fanboy of course you have to pay for a whole new os, this is talking about updates and service packs to the existing os, like if i wanted my iPod to be 3. Whatver I have to pay 5 bucks. That's no os it's an update
I thought the chumps who like Apple stuff also like paying for everything. Shouldn't this make all you Apple users happy? I mean, what would happen to Apple of Steve Jobs didn't get paid? You'd never know what to do if you couldn't worship the Great Blue Apple so everything you have you owe to him anyway.
@HYRULEKNIGHT
I do like OSX over Windows. And I thought I did clarify that I could have been ass talking since I don't own and Ipod and therefore have never seen what an upgrade to it is/costs. And also, I won't be buying an Ipad because I think it's pointless; but I guess that's because I'm a fanboy...
I do like OSX over Windows. And I thought I did clarify that I could have been ass talking since I don't own and Ipod and therefore have never seen what an upgrade to it is/costs. And also, I won't be buying an Ipad because I think it's pointless; but I guess that's because I'm a fanboy...
Jesus christ HYRULESKNIGHT you are an idiot. The article even states that updates to things like 3.X or 3.X.X will be FREE, it's the MAJOR UPDATES THAT REQUIRE A NUMERIC CHANGE ONE INCREMENT HIGHER THAT WILL COST YOU.
From the article:
"Which is a convoluted way of saying that you'll get one major iPad upgrade for free, but you'll have to pay for any future ones. Seeing as launch day iPads will ship with version 3.2, you'll get everything up to 4.0 for free, and then you'll be forced to pay for 5.0."
Seriously, how god damn fucking retarded do you have to be? The key word here is MAJOR update, not the MINOR update.
From the article:
"Which is a convoluted way of saying that you'll get one major iPad upgrade for free, but you'll have to pay for any future ones. Seeing as launch day iPads will ship with version 3.2, you'll get everything up to 4.0 for free, and then you'll be forced to pay for 5.0."
Seriously, how god damn fucking retarded do you have to be? The key word here is MAJOR update, not the MINOR update.
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