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So it begins: First online review of GTA IV hits the Internet
Nick Chester04.25.08 - 5:59 PM 102 comments

Here it comes, ladies and gentlemen -- the onslaught of Grand Theft Auto IV coverage that's guaranteed to both anger you (because you don't have it) and spoil all of the good stuff (because you don't have it ... yet).

IGN has posted their full review of the game, which spans seven pages, and ends in them awarding the game a 10 out of 10. I refuse to read the review myself -- playing the game for a few hours was almost enough of a spoiler for me. But browsing the first paragraph, I read this: "Without question, Grand Theft Auto IV is the best game since Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time." Well then. 

So the game is good. We get it. While waiting by my door for the FedEx man to arrive with my copy for review (no, it didn't come), I realized something -- does it really matter? You're all going to run out and buy the game either at launch or a few days later. If I gave the game a three out of 10, you'd call me a "tw@"and buy it anyway. It's Grand Theft Auto IV, man. If the game came with trace amounts of anthrax lining the instruction manual, you'd still be lined up for the midnight release. 

Is there anyone here not planning on buying GTA IV? If so, please give some compelling reasons why, and provide scans of your medical records, because I don't think you're well.

[Thanks, Ben!]



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I'm not buying it because my roommate is. It's about time the free loader bought some games. That said, the second it becomes unavailable to me, I'll be getting it. Hopefully I'll be able to b......



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ZServ at 04/25/2008 17:56

I dont plan on buying it right away; no money.
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---AMARU--- at 04/25/2008 17:58

ZOMG TEH 10 OUT OF 10'S!!!!!!!!
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Nick Chester at 04/25/2008 17:59

OK, the money thing is a good excuse. But barring that ...
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The Grudge at 04/25/2008 18:00

I will buy it. I might even go to a "midnight" selling of the game.
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GrayFox at 04/25/2008 18:01

Even though it's IGN, "best game since ocarina of time" makes my penis enlarge.
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Hoss at 04/25/2008 18:02

im not... lack of next gen console and i just dont take rockstar seriously... i can only commit so much crime that it becomes one dimensional to me

*braces for projected hate*
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Rockvillian at 04/25/2008 18:04

I'm not getting it, no 360 or PS3.

And I had a broken collarbone when I was 6, had a growth removed from my nasal cavity last year, and recently quit smoking of all kinds (thank God) since that directly correlated with the nasal surgery.

So I have no money now either. Got friends with 360s though :P
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Danmartigan at 04/25/2008 18:04

Oh noes you spoiled the whole game for me, it has helicopters? You can shoot people in boats?!?! ARGH

Anyway, the multiplayer looks amazing. Looking forward to the FNFs already.
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Slick Icarus at 04/25/2008 18:04

No 360 or PS3, and my PC sucks, so, not now, at least. But it will be one of the first PS3 games I get when I do get the system, right next to MGS4.
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Rockvillian at 04/25/2008 18:05

@Hoss

I love you for saying that. I don't take em seriously either, and yeah.
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Quisling at 04/25/2008 18:12

I don't know. I just never really got into the GTA series. Not enough enjoyment for me I think.

And I'm fairly certain I'm unwell. I'll just play more Ikaruga and CoD4...
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Cheeburga at 04/25/2008 18:13

I'll get it when my xbox is fixed.
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Tromboned at 04/25/2008 18:14

I only ever liked gta2, and that was because it was a great low-bandwidth LAN game. GTA one was off of my charts when it was released (...it does exist, right?) and GTA3... well, the story just wasnt compelling enough. I fully agree with the hoss/rock. whats the point? The most time I spent playing it was to poke around, then get as many cops trying to kill me as possible. There was more, you mean?
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Static Jak at 04/25/2008 18:14

I can't take this waiting much longer. I know it's only a few short days away but it feels like times slowed down on me. I must have this game!
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Creamsnake at 04/25/2008 18:15

So that means Ocarina of Time is better than this game. Excuse me while I go and not fire up my N64.
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Projectexodus at 04/25/2008 18:21

I'm not getting it...

Medical record:
- OCD
- Depression
- Anxiety
- Social Phobia
- Ear infection



Haha... just kidding, I'm getting the game.
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Matthew Blake at 04/25/2008 18:21

Not getting it, mainly due to the fact that I do not own either a PS3 or a 360. Honestly, I'm not surprised that it was given a 10 out of 10. Don't get me wrong; from what I've seen, it looks like GTA 4's gonna be a good time, but really, would we expect anything less from any of the major review sites?
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StriderS at 04/25/2008 18:22

@Creamsnake - oic, gonna go fire up your Wii instead?

I can't get it, no next gen systems. I do want it though.
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Orionsaint at 04/25/2008 18:25

Best game since Soul Calibur. The last game they awarded a 10. I can't wait. I hope it looks better than previous GTA games ;)

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h3lios at 04/25/2008 18:30

i might pick this up a little later when it's on the greatest hits line up. Never was a big GTA fan (barring GTA: Vice City that is. For now i got my hands full with games such as GT5: Prologue, Patapon, Crisis Core, Chains of Olympus, MGS Online Beta and Lost Odyssey. Plus i got FES on the way and saved up the remaining pocket shrapnel for the MGS 4 LE.

Sure GTA4 might be the alpha and omega of gaming for most people, but i'm not one of them. Though if i get gifted a copy, i won't be complaining.
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hammburglar at 04/25/2008 18:30

hell even im gonna get it. and i didnt even like GTA3 vice city or san andreas.
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Clockwork at 04/25/2008 18:31

Cant. Wait.

Days. Getting. Longer.
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Hoss at 04/25/2008 18:31

@matthew

right... by major you mean funded from copious advertisements im sure hah... i need to see more reviews, namely from here or zero punctuation

is hell freezing over? gta fans i envision are very defensive... is this community really that refined?!?

people agreeing with me... what the hell is that? this is supposed to be undeniable greatness and i should be excommunicated from here for heresy
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h3lios at 04/25/2008 18:36

@Hoss:

People are agreeing because of one of the following reasons:

1. MGS Online Beta servers are shot to pieces.
2. You might actually make sense.

i'm putting my bet on number 1 though.
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Rainbowblack at 04/25/2008 18:37

i lolerd at the obese hooker riding niko in the car
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Rockefellow at 04/25/2008 18:37

I'm going to be getting it. I just hope it doesn't turn out like San Andreas, where I got bored of the story and just screwed around in the giant map. I still haven't beaten it...

Ah, hell. I don't think I even care, really. This looks too damned fantastic to not get.
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Rockefellow at 04/25/2008 18:39

Anyone think I'll have a hard time finding a copy without a pre-order? I figured Best Buy or Target would probably have a copy, but...
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DJDuffy at 04/25/2008 18:42

I wasn't going to buy it, b/c my gf doesn't want me to, but I'm going to anyway! mwahahaa
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Breedlove at 04/25/2008 18:45

Never heard of it? Is it a casual game, I only go cashe when gaming now. Its the newest trend.
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MrSadistic at 04/25/2008 18:47

I want to stab myself in the face knowing that I will not be able to pick this game for another month or so.
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Cynical Gamer at 04/25/2008 18:47

The game will get no less than a 10 with major gaming publications due to money hats and marketing. I'm still buying it though.
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luzer7072 at 04/25/2008 18:54

I won't be buying it, as I don't own a 360 or PS3. Just a Wii. It does look really cool though.

Funny thing, Bully came out for the Wii about a month ago and I just recently completed it. It was really fun; the controls and the combat were a bit janky, and the graphics were a bit wonky, but the game had a really great sense of humor and it was a great deal of fun to ride around on my bike. But because it's a school game, you can't kill anybody. It stops at noogies and pink-bellies. But yeah, anyway, I was looking at images of San Andreas and there was this one shot of a guy running over two other guys in his car. There was blood everywhere. And it looked a lot like Bully.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but I guess all I mean is that it was like Barney suddenly going batshit insane and eating all the children in the classroom. You've got these two games with really similar play mechanics, where one stomps of your toe and shoves you into a garbage can, and the other slices open your belly and strangles you with your own intestines...
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Pariah at 04/25/2008 18:55

I kept going to the back room at work and made sweet love to a special edition copy I claim as mine. sticky. Monday can not come soon enough. Oh, also some d-bag came first thing this morning with a print out of the "rockstar letter."

My response. That is bullshit and you know it. Either...

A: You think I am a moron
B: You are trying to get me fired
C: You are an idiot

I crack my knucles and give him the stink eye "Which is it?"

His response: "Uhh, can I still preorder a copy?"

/Facepalm
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Wedge at 04/25/2008 18:55

I have no plans to get this game. Also I don't have a PS3 or 360.

Still though, after playing Crackdown a bit, I doubt I'd care about this game. This being grounded in reality is going to appeal a lot less to me after seeing what Crackdown did by taking it over the top. I always just played the PS2 ones to do crazy car stunts and explore, and I doubt this will top Crackdown in that regard.
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Zanch at 04/25/2008 18:58

I tend to be skeptical of any review source willing to give a game a perfect score. There's no such thing as a perfect game.
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Demios at 04/25/2008 19:02

Cashwhore needs to post the 11/10 review asap. Dont let IGN and the likes steal the limelight.
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BahamutZero at 04/25/2008 19:05

wedge, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but thanks for playing.
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Samit Sarkar at 04/25/2008 19:08

@Zanch: *Sigh* See here.

I can’t wait for this game. I’ve got my Special Edition pre-ordered, and I’m going to go pick it up on Monday night at Best Buy’s midnight launch.
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stevesan at 04/25/2008 19:14

Reviews should be more personal. I don't care about an IGN review - I care about a Roger Ebert review.

Because everyone has different taste's, and how can one identify with a big corporation? Better to identify with an individual.
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sevink at 04/25/2008 19:15

I do not plan on buying this game. I feel GTA is an OK series, but the games them selves do not keep me playing longer then a few hours. I'm sure its ok, but again it is really just beating up people, stealing cars. Even if they add a great story it still comes down to those basic ideas. Just not my cup of tea.
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lollifier at 04/25/2008 19:24

I cannot wait for my special edition!
annoying thing i have fucking exams in three weeks, so i wont be able to play it much.
...
who am i kidding?
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Kyousuke Nanbu at 04/25/2008 19:24

Who cares? Do you honestly think that anybody is gonna give GTA a bad review?

Its like Final Fantasy or any big Nintendo game, its pointless to read the reviews when its just gonna be people fawning over the awesomeness of said game and then finishing with 10/10.

There's quite a few franchises that a free pass from reviewers, GTA is obviously one of them.
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GigaMach at 04/25/2008 19:26

I will NOT be getting this game. I have never been enthralled by the GTA games, though I do concede that the scope and range of things you can do in them is impressive. I just can't connect to the themes, mainly, that crime pays.

I know, I know. No one is going to commit a crime BECAUSE of any GTA game. I would never believe that. I just mean that I don't care for the world GTA provides to raise mayhem in. I'm totally looking forward to Mercenaries 2, and MGS4, and doing as much stuff in them as I can, and shooting and blasting my way to "victory". It just feels different in GTA, and it's a difference I don't like.

Maybe I'll change my mind if I try it, but I have no desire to bother. Seems pretty overhyped to me, actually.
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naia-the-gamer at 04/25/2008 19:28

*puts up flame shield*

I'm not picking up GTA IV. I haven't played any of the others either. I don't know much about them but I don't see the appeal in beating people up and stealing cars. If I wanted to play a game that was "realistic" I'd go outside.

Having said that I'm sure there is more to the game than that, but I need to know it's worth it before spending $60.

I know this makes me sound like one of those assholes from the PTC, but I'd entertain reasons why I should play one of the games. Do I need to play them in a certain order? Is there an actual story or is it just "anything goes?" I'm not trying to be a troll, I'm legitimately curious.

I'd be willing to give it a chance to see what the fuss was about, but nothing from what I've seen peaks my interest.

Sorry I don't have my medical records to give you, but I can assure you I'm healthy.
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Matthew Blake at 04/25/2008 19:31

I think I'd enjoy a lot of these games if they weren't over-hyped so much. Halo, for instance, has a fun multiplayer mode, and a mediocre single-player mode. Fine. Multiplayer is fun, but it's not enough for me to call it the greatest thing since sliced Goldeneye. I really like the idea of GTA, in that I can just screw around and do whatever I want; whenever me and my friends play it at their house, I always just drive like a madman. I never even pick up a gun.
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rjc5056 at 04/25/2008 19:40

Have we noticed a trend yet in the types of games the "I'm NOT getting GTA. Pshhhh!" crowd leans towards? It's cool if you tend to skew a little Asian with your preferences but don't ruin our big circle jerk on the "lovin' it" side with your bad vibes.

I'm picking this up on Tues and after telling my gf how excited I was for it and showing her some screens the other day, she goes "Nice. I can't wait to explore the city and run over hookers together!"

God, do I love that woman.
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BahamutZero at 04/25/2008 19:40

in this thread: people complaining about GTA who have never actually played the games and/or don't own next gen systems.
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Jakysan at 04/25/2008 19:40

Grant Theft Auto 3 changed my thoughts on gaming.. thats when I really saw a huge change in how a game could be played, and I put HUNDREDS of hours into the game. Hell, I killed over 375,000 people in that game on the PS2.. yeah, I'm totally getting GTA IV.
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Reverend Slim at 04/25/2008 19:43

I wasn't going to buy it. I played like 10 minutes of GTA3, hated the controls, never bothered with the others after that (though honestly, I really enjoyed GTA1, despite the fact that all I did was run around carjacking cops and having fun trying to escape).

Having read that review and having watched the video review... I'm starting to lean toward buying it just to find out. A friend got the PS3 version early and tells me the issues I had with the controls are completely fixed, with combat playing slightly like Gears of War. If that's true, I'm suddenly intrigued. Two days ago, I had no intention of buying another 360 game until Soul Calibur 4. Now... I'm not sure.
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halokid at 04/25/2008 19:52

Cant wait to play gta online
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TheBrain at 04/25/2008 20:08

I'm getting it. I'm going to wait until I finish Oblivion and finals first, though. I don't have time for a third time-consumer.
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Orionsaint at 04/25/2008 20:16

My goal to being able to anything I like in this world is closer to reality! muawahaha! Thanks Rockstar. Here's to GTA Holodeck!
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m3ds at 04/25/2008 20:29

I'm planning on it, but I've got too much on to play at the moment, Goozex sent me five games in the last week, so it'll be a little while before I pick it up.
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rabidkeebler at 04/25/2008 20:34

The thing is, while I take IGN with a rock of salt, I will bite the bullet and say quite possibly that they are right on this one. Combining all the complaints I have heard so far (6ish reviews) they go like this... no real spoilers here:



Controls and aiming can still be a little ganky in stairwells

Shooting much improved, but not perfect (can still target incapacitated characters)

Still some pop-in/fade-in

One person complained that many of the missions didn't push the storyline forward and were "filler".


.....

That's about it. Seriously, if a game as big and good as GTA IV is, and this is the only set of complaints it gets. Then I think a 10/10 is deserving.
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dvddesign at 04/25/2008 20:43

I know some people who won't be playing it immediately...

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/dvddesign+/may-cblog-xbox-scavenger-hunt-83303.phtml

Are you one of them?
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rabidkeebler at 04/25/2008 20:49

@naia-the-gamer

I know this makes me sound like one of those assholes from the PTC, but I'd entertain reasons why I should play one of the games.

Do I need to play them in a certain order?

No, there will be certain inside jokes you will miss if you play GTA San Andreas before GTAIII. On the other hand, you don't have to have played any of the games to play GTA IV.
......................(MINOR SPOILER)........................

The only returning characters are some of the DJs
..............................................................
The games follow a semi linear path. It is much more of a tree, you have the main story (trunk) but you can follow many side quests, or just do little things within the games (branches).


Is there an actual story or is it just "anything goes?"

There are stories, they grow progressively stronger as you climb the game ladder (GTA III<GTA VC<GTA SA<GTA IV) I recommend giving GTA IV a try. It changes the overall story telling of the series, and changes how the characters are developed. Niko is a much more likeable and sympathetic character than the over the top guys of the previous installments (from everything I've heard).
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NegFactor at 04/25/2008 20:53

I'll be buying it someday when I get a 360 or a PS3. For now, I'll just have to get by with MK:Wii.
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eternalplayer2345 at 04/25/2008 21:11

I was actually convinced by that review to buy it, at first i was just gonna rent it whenever but nnow i cant wait for it.
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Ichigo Style at 04/25/2008 21:14

@naia - The game most certainly does have a story, and a full story mode. At the same time, it's also taken as a "sand-box" game by many people (such as myself) just to play around, and have fun with. If it's not your cup of tea, then it's not your cup of tea, just don't go blaming it for every kid who goes out and does something illegal :P
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balth at 04/25/2008 21:32

11/10.

I'm serial, my jaw is on the floor. I remember reading the SoulClabber article and going z0mg ign gave something a 10.

I got chills when I saw this one. Wow.

I don't think moneyhats are involved. I will be in line, possibly working behind the counter (for fun).

I think this could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

My name is Balth, and I'm a PS3 owner.

Oh yeah, PS3 version is superior! Suck it RROD!

that is all.
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ShinSennju at 04/25/2008 21:34

Never been a fan of the previous ones. I tried to like San Andreas, but it was in vain, though this one might change my mind.
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Dick McVengeance at 04/25/2008 21:34

Certainly not planning on picking it up anytime soon. I was rather disappointed with San Andreas, which got a 9.9 from IGN. Their rating is something I'd take with a grain of salt.

Unless GTA IV really is that masterful piece of storytelling, I think I'll wait until a bunch of people have traded it in to pick it up, if at all.
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diversionmary at 04/25/2008 21:35

I don't know, I buy every GTA and do the same thing - run around and cause mayhem and try to rack up 5 stars. Invincibility + weapons cheats make it much more fun, then I go for stunt multi-kills. That and my wife has an extreme dislike for the series so I can't really enjoy playing it while she's awake. You know how that is.
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Eques-Ardor at 04/25/2008 21:43

Not even one 10.
TWO different reviewers from IGN, USA and UK respectively, gave it a 10/10.
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Dan CiTi at 04/25/2008 21:46

That sounds about right.
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amalgamut00 at 04/25/2008 21:49

I'm either buying Mario Kart of Grand Theft Auto IV.
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bluexy at 04/25/2008 21:53

I am not buying it until the summer because I want to graduate this term.
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rbrooks at 04/25/2008 21:56

very interesting...this has peaked my interest...i'm wondering now if this game will be better than i previously thought...this review might let me down in some ways...we will see! 29th
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Jonathan Holmes at 04/25/2008 22:09

I own every GTA home console title thus far released (skipped the GBA and PSP games). Sadly, I have never been able to play through any of them for more than 2 hours before getting extremely bored. I'm an optimistic dude. I thought that video game reviews must mean something, that these games couldn't be the total crap that they seemed to be. I thought it was just me, and that I'd eventually "get it".

Well, maybe it is just me, but I'm still the same "me" that has no use for the PS1 and PS@ GTA games, and GTA IV looks like more of the same. By that I mean, more or the same empty, souless fetch quests, flat gameplay progression, truly weak combat system, and the same Tarantino wanna-be, direct to DVD movie flavored scenario.

And I didn't like Ocarina of Time either.
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PrinceofCannedPeaches at 04/25/2008 22:15

I'll give it a compelling f***ing reason: not released until December on PC, and those c**ts at IGN just made me cream myself for nothing. DAMN YOU!
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Release82 at 04/25/2008 22:17

I'll happily inhale anthrax for some hooker smashing goodness in HD.
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Eschatos at 04/25/2008 22:24

Those fuckers better release it for PC soon.
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Chocobo Knight at 04/25/2008 22:34

Argh! No game deserves a 10/10! There are always a few flaws no matter how well polished a game can be. Heck, the IGN review stated some technical flaws but still gave it FLAWLESS VICTORY! I have no doubts this will be a great game, but why bother to be objective and still turn out a perfect score? Meh.
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naia-the-gamer at 04/25/2008 22:38

@Ichigo Style: "If it's not your cup of tea, then it's not your cup of tea, just don't go blaming it for every kid who goes out and does something illegal :P"

You think I would hang out at DToid if I thought that? :P

I may try one of the PSP games and see what I think, then go from there.
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NightDehumidifier at 04/25/2008 22:50

NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY HOW CAN GTA4 (ROMAN NUMERALS LAWL) GET A HIGHER REVIEW THAN SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI PERSONA 3 FES ITS SUCH BULLSHIT GOTM GOES TO P3 IT HAS A BETTER STORYLINE AND IS MORE FUN P-OUT
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Boolean at 04/25/2008 23:12

10 out of 10!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

WWHHAHAATTA!?!?!!?!?!

I mean it's going to be great, but no game on IGN is supposed to get a 10, ever. Sounds like someone was high when they wrote the review.
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AfroJoel at 04/25/2008 23:18

wtf 7 pages!
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rjc5056 at 04/25/2008 23:20

@Chocobo - Read the article before you embarrass yourself like that. 10/10 does NOT mean flawless, you putz, because it would be an unobtainable score rendering it irrelevant. Nothing is perfect. Nothing. Especially things created by a group of humans.
@NightDehumidifier - I hope your post was done ironically, otherwise... wow. That's sad. Is the (I'm assuming) Japanese RPG androgynous fap fest you mentioned even real or what? Find a new forum, amigo.
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braulio09 at 04/26/2008 00:32

i have the game

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