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The news EVERYONE has been waiting for has finally been revealed today. Smash Bros Brawl will have online multiplayer. There will be two online modes which are With Friends and With Anyone. With the With Friends mode, you can play with the people you've registered to be your friend. In this mode, you can check each other's stats, see if your friend is online and change your icons up. You can also send your friends quick messages using the D-pad as taunts during battles. You just have to create the message before the battle though. Now here is where Nintendo shows how stupid they still are with their online stance. In With Anyone mode, you can battle with anyone in the world. But you won't be able to see their name, any stats, can't send taunt messages and the most ridiculous part of all this, your battle records will not be recorded at all. I shouldn't really complain though, the anonymity of With Anyone mode really pales in comparison to how epic this news is. So who else is as giddy as a little school girl now?
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GOOD! I may buy a Wii after that game comes out then.
I'm going to go cryogenically freeze myself. Someone unfreeze me when SSBB comes out.
Hey kids!
I wouldn't say it's stupid. It allows for people to be much more easy going about it all. You lose? Meh. Play another round. It's all for fun now, and it won't make people so f*ckin' paranoid about their gamer score.
wOOO HOOOO. sO AWESOME I HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPLOCK!
nice.
ELBOW.
They should really have those typed in taunts when you're playing with everyone, not just friends.
FUCKING WIN.
With Anyone mode sounds kind of stupid. If there's no interactivity or stat keeping, what's the point? You might as well play against the CPU. You won't have any connection issues and you can control the difficulty.
Still, the fact that there's online period is awesome, and I fully expect to see a D-Toid league once the game is released. :-D
I must be old or something, not having to deal with being called a fag from a random 12 year old seems to be a GOOD thing.
@Deiga,
I think the point is to just enjoy playing video games with actual human opponents, and not worry about people quitting the game because they're scared of their record dropping, being called a fag by a 12 year old as Rock mentioned.
It seems to me that the whole thing is the embodiment of STFUAJPG.
@rockvillain
yeah, I just started thinking that.
Forget my earlier comment. It's probably a good thing you can't talk to other people in anyone mode.
I know Jim who the f*ck Sterling is.
But the LEAST Nintendo could have done was allow anonymous matches have win/loss stats.
At the VERY LEAST.
I just can't believe how stupid Nintendo is with online multiplayer.
I still don't understand why Nintendo Random Multiplayer has no Stat Tracking. I was disappointed with Star Fox Command the same way. Only one mode had stat tracking.
I mean, the bulk of online is going to be played through random encounters. Sure I know they want to promote the community of friends and family but the truth is I know 4 people with a Wii and the reason I wanted Brawl to be online so badly was because I wanted to compare myself to the world. I never had a chance to go to a Melee tournament and if I did I would probabaly get smashed but that's what I like about the new generation of consoles. I enjoy achievements not for the points, but because it allows me to compare my progress to other people I meet.
Ok, I will know if I mainly win or lose online but it still would be nice to have a record. We all used to sit and compare our stats on melee every now and then on the record pages. Gasping at the hundreds of play hours and such.
I'm not 12 but I sure to like to call people fag! Asshat as well! ;)
Stats or not, it's online freaking Smash Bros., and that's all that matters.
@Rockvillian
exactamundo!!!! and being one this is great news to me!!!
Argh, me no can rite good! "sure to like to..." Asshat am I!
pedrovay2003:
I feel like I'm getting a cake that I've wanted for so long. But when I open the box, I realize the icing is missing.
Jesus Dynamic Sheep. That scared the shit out of me when I reloaded the page.
deiga: Yeah, same here. But at least the cake is still in the box /sigh
nice touch, and I have to disagree with Deiga playing a human is MUCH different than playing against the computer, hell I've been having a blast playing Mario Strikers and theres little info given. Ya know I saw a video showing a kid using an earbud as a microphone, which got me thinking why can't you use the speaker in the Wii remote as a mic too?? that would be great being able to shit talk and call everyone a 12 year old fag RIght??? lol
I don't know if I'm excited so much as relieved. This feature MUST have been put in the game, and if Nintendo DIDN'T, then it would have been a huge mistake.
Semi win!
MOAR CHARACTERS PLZ!
but i want people that i don't know to know whose rapping them online
Rockvillian - I never thought about it that way, I like it. Friend codes are still bullshit though.
oh whew.. i was scared they would of canceled online, thank god
"In With Anyone mode, you can battle with anyone in the world. But you won't be able to see their name, any stats, can't send taunt messages and the most ridiculous part of all this, your battle records will not be recorded at all."
LOL!
Don't people act like a cock online because of their annonimity?
Surely if they make it 100% that way, then people are going to be close to 100% cock?
I cannot wait for this game. Finally I get a chance to play some damn games online with people from the Dtoid. Now I just have to exchange friends.......... I'll do it later.
And I need a 360 to do voice chat :(
Who's taunt is gonna be "Also, Cocks"?
It is too bad we can't see stats from random players. I get that, under the Friend Code system Nintendo wants to keep questionable content as far away as they can (which explains why player names, taunt messages will not appear). But, why can't we see the stats from random players...?
It makes no sense..
I was worried that we would never see Online Play, so I am excited nevertheless.
Thats good for online mode and all but on the online mode where you play anyone, you might as well play against the AI.
VERY WIN!
While this does make me super mega happy, the whole thing seems rather...not robust.
I can't believe people are so excited about this. It's Smash Bros Melee with online play. Big fuck deal. You can't communicate with anyone you play with, and you can't keep track of stats, outside of your friends. Meaning, essentially, it's like you're playing against three CPU players.
Fuck, I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually playing against three CPU players, and Nintendo is only claiming you're playing with your friends. There's no way for them to prove it, cause "Nintendo owners don't care about online play" enough for them to justify putting in a decent online component.
You're better off buying Melee and playing it with three friends. If you don't have three friends, kill yourself.
A step in the right direction, but Nintendo will never dare have something closer to Xbox Live, I guess.
@ AgentMOO
The van needs to be exploding. It is part of the internet hate machine after all.
Srsly though, as happy as I am about online play, I'm surprisingly pissed at Nintendo about the play anyone mode. Sure it's great that I can play anyone at any time, but not getting their names or their stats fucking blows. The big selling point of online in any game is to form a community and play with others. HOW THE HELL CAN A COMMUNITY FORM WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE NAMES OF OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. You're gonna get bored playing with same people (at least I do after several dozen/hundred times) but there is little incentive in playing with others and getting better in the game when you don't even know the names of those that you're playing against
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Still, good to know I'll be able to play it more often then Melee.
You know, this is just gunna be a big hassle, the play against anyone thing will be like playing a random cpu, like everyone's said, and it sounds like they have lag issues from the post.
And I really don't wanna have to add a 12 digit code every time I wanna feel like I'm actually playing online.
Will you be my friend, Lethal Dosage? Then I would only need 2 more...
@Lethal Dosage
About damn time someone said the truth.
"In With Anyone mode, you can battle with anyone in the world. But you won't be able to see their name, any stats, can't send taunt messages and the most ridiculous part of all this, your battle records will not be recorded at all. Oh and all of the fun is removed."
Fixed.
I already expected online play, and I already expected Nintendo's typical shitty online service, so I could care less. Kind of lame it is taking this long to make a SSBM 1.5. Regardless I will probably buy this since the Wii is still basically a glorified mini-game machine. For the people trying to justify the crappy "With Anyone" mode, thats what unranked matches are for, if you have a non-Nintendo system you should try it sometime, thats the only time you really have fun. I never play ranked unless I want to see how long I can last when the odds are completely against me or if I want to hear a 12 yr old screaming at me for "not pwning those fucking nubs." Oh well, quality online play is something that PCs and consoles made for gamers typically do, so I guess I really shouldn't have been expecting anything from the Wii anyways. Flame if you want, but deep down you know the truth.
Thanks DGX goggles for spewing out the typical anti-nintendo bullshit.
Also, who the fuck names their child ELBOW?
I can't believe they fucked up SSBB's online play.
I am dumbfounded. This is fucking retarded.
I was getting really worried about the online here, kinda relieved now, but yeah... it isn't great. Oh well, to talk with friends i guess I could use ventrilo or an ingame lobby on the 360.
At least this is one of the games that you'll actually trade friend codes with people for. I'm sure that after it comes out, everyone at my school will be trading them around, as opposed to say, Mario Kart DS. I think that the friend list is very nice, especially because before you had to call your friend to set up a match.
If there is a way to harness the collective bitchpower of the internet, then consider the energy crisis solved. Here's my contribution:
I'm concerned about the lack of stat-tracking for a different reason: matchmaking. I've only played SSBM a few times, so I'll likely be quickly demolished online when SSBB comes out unless they have a way to pit me against noobs. One-sided matches aren't much fun for anyone.
Of course, there are other aspects of online play yet to be announced (maybe they track but don't display stats, or allow you to select opponent experience level?), so I'll just hang out until I can actually, y'know, play the game.
Damn, strangers can't taunt me? Thats terrible news. I was really hoping to have the screen spammed with "cock" "titties" and "fag".
So dissapointing.
STFUAJPG! We should all get tattoos.
@ Knives
if you got Live, log into a game of Uno and use that as a chat room, as tested by Wombat.
"We’re planning a number of services that make use of Wi-Fi, but we’ll reveal them gradually with the other modes. Enjoy."
Hey, MAYBE there's more to it then it is right now. Who knows?
But man do we love bitch about stuff. That's a great hobby we've got these days.
wow I dunno who are worse.... the fanboys taht support or the fanboys that hate....
I LOVE the idea or the 'smash with anyone' (lolol I love to smash, smash it all night... ok) its the perfect pick up and play scheme, just to have a random challenge from someone else in the world... and its one of two confirmed modes with more to be announced... man you all act like bitches....
"The news EVERYONE has been waiting for..." woah woah woah i'll stop you there. I couldn't care less about the retarded Wii right now, only Nintendo fanboys care about that turd.
I want a wii just for this game...
@lightthrower
I'm not a Nintendo fanboy and I care about this game being online, my existance proves your theory wrong.
Plus, if you keep on calling the Wii names it will get upset.
Lol @ Zardoz.
Wii the people (see what I did there :D) will in herit the earth! and the SSBD universe!
sweet, another game on the wii I must purchase. I still need to get metroid prime 3 >:E
oh, and everybody knows what "quick message" to use with the pokeman trainer.
this is exciting, probably the 3rd decent game for the wii
Yes, I can now throw down CTZ online.
I really don't understand why they couldn't do something similar to Mario Strikers Charged. Or at the very least have some kind of option so if you have a really AWESOME match against someone you don't know, you can "friend" up with them for future bouts... but hey, we should all really just be rejoycing at the fact that they've FINALLY announced flippin' online play. And really, I'm quite happy with that alone. Besides, there are always patches that can get rid of the pesky need for friend codes once Nintendo comes to their senses...
@Lethal Dosage
I think i might have to invent a new word to express my disdain with your post...but until i invent that new word a decent "FUCK YOU" will suffice.
Hey its better than nothing...I guess.
First off: Playing with friends = good
Playing with all, now This is a quagmire. I don't want to talk to these fuckers, but I do want stats and at least some way to identify people besides 1P, 2P. The omission of online stats is mind boggling.
From a functional standpoint this is basically randomized AI with lag thrown in.
@Jim
No one is as confident about online as Microsoft, it is much harder than Microsoft make it look. As much as I love Nintendo, they have always had irrational fear about online gaming, it's beacuse they are design purists, this is normally a good thing, but in the case of online where you have to learn to let go and allow people get on with it, being a design purist is a hindrance, designers tend to freak out when they can't fully control aspects of their design.
Nintendo have a case of the over protective designers mind, and by now they really should have learnt to let go with online.
Also, Microsoft are in the envious position where they can charge money for an excellent service, most 360 owners are 16-35 year old males who are willing to pay for the best set up/features, Wii owners are too broad to create a perfect specialist online set up that can justify subscription fees.
So yeah, a step in the right direction by Nintendo, but honestly I don't expect anyone to reach the levels of XBox Live, let's say online gaming is the sea, Microsoft have gills whilst everyone else has is using a snorkel.
If they can't promise lag free random play, I don't want my stats recorded. Simple as that.
This both excites me and scares me. I would enjoy playing this online, but I don't have the kind of connection required. I'd have to wait until I moved before I could get such a thing.
But still, the prospect is interesting, though it takes away from the original magic, that you could banter against those you were playing against, something a simple taunt can lack.
@lightthrower
Why the hell are you reading this article if you don't like the wii let alone leaving a message in the comments about it?
It confounds me.
Since when the fuck did not having stats recorded mean you can't have fun playing a game? What the fuck is wrong with all you people? Can nobody ever just enjoy a game for what it is anymore? I played a lot of Perfect Dark and Goldeneye back in the day. Only Perfect Dark kept stats. And even so, I know I spent a LOT more time on Goldeneye, simply because it was a ton of fucking fun.
What is the point of having stats showing you beat up a bunch of random five year olds or grandmas? Even though the friend code shit is annoying as hell, you can still setup your own leagues where stats will be tracked for anyone that matters.
In closing, STFUAJPG!!!
What you good people have to remember is primarily, Nintendo make games. Their experience with online gaming will be done in baby steps, with them learning as they go. Either way its great to see SBB going online at launch, with this and Mario Kart, I now need a Wii badly now.
Don't forget, when Sega began this whole online shebang on consoles with DC, there were hiccups, but the online play got better and was fun. While we are used to headsets and such, you don't really need them for every single game. I wouldn't be surprised if such support came along to Wii later for some games, as its still early in its life anyway.
The friend codes I think will eventually go as Nintendo gain more confidence online. Some upcoming games aren't even using them, so in time Nintendo will see what gamers like and don't like.
Oh yeah, one more thing. If there's something you love or hate about Wii, draw up and submit a poll on Everybody Votes channel. Some gamers might feel the same and Nintendo might be listening too. They'd be dumb if they didn't as that's the best way to get their attention.
Players are different from AIs anyone who's played melee knows this but lack of a leaderboard is funky
I hate hate HATE Nintendos online plan!!!
Who said before anyone that SMB Brawl was gonna be online, to not listen to Nintendo. Everyone told me i was crazy. ME! That's who! Check the IGN blogs. I've been saying it since the game was first annouced. I kept getting bashed for it. Well guess what, today Nintendo annouced its online. Don't anyone ever go against me!
sigh... do u think nintendo will ever change? why cant they just handle online play the way people want. we dont need audio, just dont dump all the stats and fun.
Nintendo remind me of that Hall & Oates song. Oh what's it called...oh yeah. 'Out Of Touch' I've been saying this for a while about both Sony & Nintendo. The Japanese are out of the loop when it comes to American gamers and online gaming. While MS has it down to a science.
It's actually pretty insulting on Nintendo's part to assume that online gaming is that shallow and simplistic.(sarcasm) See, we just wanna play online, it doesn't matter with who or if I have no idea who i'm playing against. I don't need to chat. After all, online is online. They just wanna play online (sarcasm) 'rolls eyes' Nintendo is so 13th century.
Too bad the online mode is total shit. No voice support, ladders, stats, hell you cant even see