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They should've released all 3 of those games as a 75 dollar package. Probably would've sold a BIOOZOZZLLZLZION copies.
Aren't they pushing put knights contract the same day as bulletstorm and killzone 3.
That's namco right?
Because I haven't seen or heard much about that game until it popped up on destruction. Seems they didn't entirely learn there lesson (if that is being published by namco)
That's namco right?
Because I haven't seen or heard much about that game until it popped up on destruction. Seems they didn't entirely learn there lesson (if that is being published by namco)
Or a bad combat system compounded by a terrible swooping camera that made countering next to impossible and infinitely abusable. Oh, and a game with a character who could make impossible leaps and climbing moves, but couldn't stand on most of the detritus in levels, like sunken beds (NO NO, BAD MONKEY).
Or, the fact that the ending was so mind-numbingly STUPID. You know what, if you could ride the cloud for the entire game, it would have been better by default because that is the only time the game didn't feel irreparably broken. OH YEAH, MORE SWITCH PUZZLES PLEASE.
Or, the fact that the ending was so mind-numbingly STUPID. You know what, if you could ride the cloud for the entire game, it would have been better by default because that is the only time the game didn't feel irreparably broken. OH YEAH, MORE SWITCH PUZZLES PLEASE.
Just before and during its release, I did notice a lot of people on a lot of forums talking about whether they should pick up Enslaved or Castlevania, with the majority seeming to side with Castlevania purely because of the typical fear of a new IP and because they had heard that Enslaved wasn't as long on a single play through as Castlevania was. Then of course in October people were gearing up for Call of Duty. So I can see why Namco may think that the lack of sales was down to them releasing it at the wrong time.
However, I'm pretty sure you're right Jim and that the main cause of Enslaved's failure was due to the majority of gamers being thick eejits who won't look twice at a fresh IP. I doubt releasing Enslaved a few months earlier would have made a difference. It's a game with an extensive plot and almost as many colours as Viva Pinata, the average gamer won't touch it with an expanding, fire-and-lightning-shooting staff.
However, I'm pretty sure you're right Jim and that the main cause of Enslaved's failure was due to the majority of gamers being thick eejits who won't look twice at a fresh IP. I doubt releasing Enslaved a few months earlier would have made a difference. It's a game with an extensive plot and almost as many colours as Viva Pinata, the average gamer won't touch it with an expanding, fire-and-lightning-shooting staff.
Maybe Bamco should take a leaf out of Timegates book and reduce the pricepoint to give it an edge over bigger more established blockbusters.
Enslaved was about a zillion times better then Godofwarovania which might be the most unoriginal awful game ever made ever
I think a big part of their problem is thinking that reviewers know what everyone wants and will buy too. Very often reviewers do not reflect the public opinion of a game.
Maybe it didn't sell as many copies because people actually downloaded the demo and didn't really care for it.
I know, I know...that's a radical way of thinking but just maybe...
I know, I know...that's a radical way of thinking but just maybe...
I really liked Enslaved personally, it's a shame that it'll probably never get a sequel because it was a lovely little game. It didn't help that the demo was definitely not a good introduction to the game, the full game was a LOT better than that demo that most people based their opinion on. The only things wrong with the game were the motion blur and the inconsistent frame-rate but apart from that I thought it was wonderful.
SephirothX: It's a fantastic game. Though from your name I can only assume that you wouldn't know one of those if it hit you in the face.
Yeah, those would of probably got more sales if they where released right now! There's nothing commin out this week and I think enslaved would of fit nicely into Q1 of 2011. Oh well!
Did you know Terra also wore a slave-headband in the beginning of FFVI?
What's Trip wearing? is that part of the dlc?
Well, I bought it, then sold it back, so I guess I contributed.
What's Trip wearing? is that part of the dlc?
Well, I bought it, then sold it back, so I guess I contributed.
I bought two copies, and let friends borrow one because I know it would have just flied under the radar. It was a fantastic game, and one I'm bound to play through many times.
I didn't get anything this holiday season because my ps3 YLOD'd in oct. and I didn't replace it till a couple of weeks ago....
It also doesn't help the some advertisement outside of the internet wasn't seen and It was not being sold in all stores either.
man i know you must have really loved this game Jim, but honestly it fell a little flat with me. The premise was cool and the ending I really dug, but the game just didn't do it for me. The gameplay felt really simple and the game felt small... even for all the epicness. Even the characters just didn't do enough. Ninja Theory knows how to present a game but they really need to work on developing more gameplay. I REALLY want them to do an action RPG/Zelda style game where they can sink their teeth into more than 8 hours of game and try their hand and some lengthy story exposition and character development. They would really shine with something slower paced and more deliberate.
Sad to say really, but I think the reason why it sold so little was due to the demo, for me anyway. I wasn't really feeling it for the demo at first. First impressions were a cheap version of Uncharted with floaty mechanics. But then I tried the demo some more and kinda got into the feel it. After all not all games feel the same when moving characters and interaction with scenery, so I was finally getting the feel for the game, but then there were so many other games coming out or released I wanted to play more. But I will eventually purchase Enslaved. But I do believe due to the reviews, and not the hype, as there was none, that I would have purchased Enslaved the day of release.
Sometimes demo's can be a good thing for a new game, I have bought many of them due to the demo, but the timing was wrong for this game to be released. If it had been released at a slower time for games (which is gradually getting slimmer each year) then it would have sold probably a shit load more than K/L2. Oh yeah, but also they started the demo at the wrong place. They should have started it were the action was almost instant and not the jump platform stage, that was a bad idea.
BTW, I think what Activision are planning this year with the subscribed COD idea is going to kill the fun in gaming for some time. If activision want to be greedy bastards and milk another product dry but in a worse way (RIP Guitar Hero) than previous dead titles they had, then I hope their future shares value eventually wipe them off the face of the planet. That is the kind of product that should fail. A game product that does not evolve, but it made for pure greed. Activision are not going to bring in a new era of gaming, but a new era of corruption aimed at the gamers.
Sometimes demo's can be a good thing for a new game, I have bought many of them due to the demo, but the timing was wrong for this game to be released. If it had been released at a slower time for games (which is gradually getting slimmer each year) then it would have sold probably a shit load more than K/L2. Oh yeah, but also they started the demo at the wrong place. They should have started it were the action was almost instant and not the jump platform stage, that was a bad idea.
BTW, I think what Activision are planning this year with the subscribed COD idea is going to kill the fun in gaming for some time. If activision want to be greedy bastards and milk another product dry but in a worse way (RIP Guitar Hero) than previous dead titles they had, then I hope their future shares value eventually wipe them off the face of the planet. That is the kind of product that should fail. A game product that does not evolve, but it made for pure greed. Activision are not going to bring in a new era of gaming, but a new era of corruption aimed at the gamers.
I decided to rent it by Blockbuster by Mail instead of buying it. I think that was the right choice. It's fun so far, but not really something I see myself keeping and wanting to play again.
As i said in your previous crythread JIm
Enslaved was an ok game with one to many flaws. Got the game day 1, completed it once, got all trophies except the orb one(wich i was gonna get) but i havnt picked it up since.
Usually in cases where devs/publishers complain about people not buying their game bacause they didnt understand it or whatever, you go to the "Develop a better game and people will buy it" line Jim.
The same could be said about Enslaved.
And i know the devs/publishers didnt say people dont understand it now, it was just an example.
Bordelands(also a new IP) was released during a busy period, and it sold like hotcakes because it was a good game
Enslaved was an ok game with one to many flaws. Got the game day 1, completed it once, got all trophies except the orb one(wich i was gonna get) but i havnt picked it up since.
Usually in cases where devs/publishers complain about people not buying their game bacause they didnt understand it or whatever, you go to the "Develop a better game and people will buy it" line Jim.
The same could be said about Enslaved.
And i know the devs/publishers didnt say people dont understand it now, it was just an example.
Bordelands(also a new IP) was released during a busy period, and it sold like hotcakes because it was a good game
yea, cause that makes sense. I enjoyed Enslaved. It was painful how bad it ran on the PS3. Some of the people at NT needed this reality check because they were so arrogant as to be offended when people compared the gameplay to Uncharted. So fuck them and their arrogance and there retarded decision to stop development on their own proprietary tech in favor of an easier, shittier solution.
No, there is no excuse for why Kane and Lynch sold, but not a lot of people like Enslaved. It wasn't original and it wasn't that great.
What "hype"? What "marketing"? I never saw a commercial for it ever. The most I ever saw was a day or two of advertising on a rival game news blog. The mistake here is that there wasn't ENOUGH promotion. Sure, I followed them on Twitter and Facebook, and for those two social media sites, even then it wasn't nearly as big as I had hoped. I managed to win two promotions they had for freebies (including all the DLC sans Pigsy's Perfect 10), which I found somewhat amazing that I did so easily (but to be fair, one was due to a heartfelt and well-written review of what the game offered).
Sorry gang, you're really missing out on a story experience if you haven't played it yet--not to mention some of the best mo-capped emotions ever put into pixels.
Frankly, I feel it could ultimately be this generation's PG&E in terms of "great games you missed".
Sorry gang, you're really missing out on a story experience if you haven't played it yet--not to mention some of the best mo-capped emotions ever put into pixels.
Frankly, I feel it could ultimately be this generation's PG&E in terms of "great games you missed".
Well I for one bought this game on the day of release. I beat it in 3 days and sold it the next day. There was no replay value that I saw and I don't think it was worth $60. The playthrough was decent and the game had some cool parts but they could have done SO much more with the world they set up.
Truly, if we hadn't bought Kane & Lynch 2 with it's use of the number '2' maybe just maybe I'd have bought Enslaved. Just maybe but the demo which seemed like it was trying to be a mix of God Of War and Uncharted just didn't appeal to me and I love both those games.
It's personal preference I know but I really appreciated K&L2's visual approach. It seemed like it was the perfect fit for the type of game it was (nausea and all).
Besides Kane & Lynch: Dead Men might have had a story but god was that game an unplayable nightmare.
It's personal preference I know but I really appreciated K&L2's visual approach. It seemed like it was the perfect fit for the type of game it was (nausea and all).
Besides Kane & Lynch: Dead Men might have had a story but god was that game an unplayable nightmare.
Newsflash: Poorly priced items don't sell well. You were asking $60 for a game that AT MOST is worth like $30. Sorry but like it or not, replayability is an important part of a game's worth, and it's hard to spend $60 on a game you'll play only once when there's cheaper and lengthier options out there.
Releasing the game at a different time will not fix the fact that it's overrpiced. You think that if you release it later, that the competition will magically be gone? Nope. Those cheaper and/or better options will still be there regardless. If anything, waiting is a bad idea because then said other options will have dropped in price, making them all that much more appealing than your "Play once and you're done" game.
Releasing the game at a different time will not fix the fact that it's overrpiced. You think that if you release it later, that the competition will magically be gone? Nope. Those cheaper and/or better options will still be there regardless. If anything, waiting is a bad idea because then said other options will have dropped in price, making them all that much more appealing than your "Play once and you're done" game.
@KingSigy
Right, because being based on a 400 year-old story is hardly original.
You are aware that the story also served as the premise for Dragonball, right?
Right, because being based on a 400 year-old story is hardly original.
You are aware that the story also served as the premise for Dragonball, right?
I truly wanted it to be great, and was really excited for its launch...But once I played the demo I just forgot bout it.
I understand when you are terrified about kane n lynch selling a whole lot more (I am too), but that's a matter of taste, I guess, not ignorance.
Lots of people tend to like shooters, and bad guys...
And I, as much as I love beautiful graphics and (at least from what I've heard) a nice story, I do need the gameplay to be something I find pleasing.
I understand when you are terrified about kane n lynch selling a whole lot more (I am too), but that's a matter of taste, I guess, not ignorance.
Lots of people tend to like shooters, and bad guys...
And I, as much as I love beautiful graphics and (at least from what I've heard) a nice story, I do need the gameplay to be something I find pleasing.
Lol. King ignoramus Sterling blaming gamers for turning their nose up at a game with horrible controls and input lag (much like their other disaster, heavenly sword, and soon to be disaster, devil may cry 5). Yes we know you like button mashers already.
I think this is the distinction that Jim is making here.
Enslaved: Deeply flawed, but enjoyable
K&L2: Deeply flawed, and horrific
In a fair world, the first one should sell more. I'm not inside the heads of Marketing Directors or the heads of most gamers, so I couldn't tell you why K&L2 did so much better commercially.
Enslaved: Deeply flawed, but enjoyable
K&L2: Deeply flawed, and horrific
In a fair world, the first one should sell more. I'm not inside the heads of Marketing Directors or the heads of most gamers, so I couldn't tell you why K&L2 did so much better commercially.
Button mashing action games like God of War are my favorite games to play. I even loved Heavenly Sword, and had high hopes that the next Ninja Theory title would be even better.
Enslaved was a giant let down. Hardly worth the rental, and leaves me with zero faith they'll be able to do Devil May Cry any justice. I'm kind of hoping the reason we haven't heard about it since E3 is because Capcom realized they'd made a mistake, and axed the game.
Enslaved was a giant let down. Hardly worth the rental, and leaves me with zero faith they'll be able to do Devil May Cry any justice. I'm kind of hoping the reason we haven't heard about it since E3 is because Capcom realized they'd made a mistake, and axed the game.
I was paying attention when Enslaved came out. I played the demo, and I saw the price drop. I really just didn't think it was that good of a game. I skipped it on purpose.
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