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I'm a PC gamer ( and console ) and yea. As of late PC gamers have been coming across as some of the biggest babies. Just look at the BF3 forums
LAA stopped it from randomly crashing for me. I had to find an unpatched .EXE file to play it yesterday. I don't think this affected any pirated versions of the game at all, so its just annoying.
Giants herding mammoths are the fantasy equivalent of seeing Queen play while riding on the back of a giant space tortoise.
Don't take the LAA issue lightly guys. For a whole lot of people, THAT was the only reason that their game didn't crash every 10 minutes.
At this time the issue has been worked around so... carry on?
I'm sure this patch was just something that is demanded by Steam policy, or something. The guys behind Skyrim LOVE all the tweaks and mods people come up with, I heard in a recent interview.
At this time the issue has been worked around so... carry on?
I'm sure this patch was just something that is demanded by Steam policy, or something. The guys behind Skyrim LOVE all the tweaks and mods people come up with, I heard in a recent interview.
When do they add footsteps in the snow?
Leave it to Bethesda to make a game, set in a snowy world, without footsteps in the snow, in the year 2011.
Even Mario 64 could deliver that. Bethesda - Polish is bad.
Leave it to Bethesda to make a game, set in a snowy world, without footsteps in the snow, in the year 2011.
Even Mario 64 could deliver that. Bethesda - Polish is bad.
I would assume that the ultimate decision to do it was Valve's, because prior to the patch, it could be run drm free outside of Steam, and several people pointed out at launch that almost no new games do this, though a handful of legacy games have unencrypted exe's. If anything, I'd guess Bethesda tried to give modders a hand, but Valve required it encrypted for steam's sake.
I don' know why Bethesda, or Valve for that matter, did this. They should let us play the games the way we want because one of the main reasons people play on PC, and bought Skyrim on the PC, is to optimize the way they want. I hope that one of the companies talk about this soon
Really don't care one way or the other that they have released a patch that ties the game to steam ..... however...
........ its just pathetic that their fans are having to tackle the actual game play issues with "unofficial" patches and their first patch does absolutely jack shit.
would it have been too damn much to ask that they bundle their bullshit patch with some game fixes?
........ its just pathetic that their fans are having to tackle the actual game play issues with "unofficial" patches and their first patch does absolutely jack shit.
would it have been too damn much to ask that they bundle their bullshit patch with some game fixes?
@Cudgeon Damn, your right! Fuck the fact that this game has more attention to detail than I've ever seen in such a vast open world, because of this one detail its shit!
..........actually what am I saying I think its great ^^ now to take it one step further and make myself millions!
I should create a game "uCode" sell it for $59.99. It will come with one blank .txt file and the fans can code whatever they like!
It will be the sandbox game of the century, nay the Milenia!!1!1!1oneon!!1!one11!1!ONE ONE ONE 1!!!!
I should create a game "uCode" sell it for $59.99. It will come with one blank .txt file and the fans can code whatever they like!
It will be the sandbox game of the century, nay the Milenia!!1!1!1oneon!!1!one11!1!ONE ONE ONE 1!!!!
Yeah the lack of footprints in the snow, while minor. Is just weird from such a visually stunning game.
Hey, I want to Occupy something! That's how upset I am. Am I a baby because of all of this? I don't think so because say between MW and MW2 there was millions made. How many bones went to the PC with those millions. Will it be the same here? Between the two I and many went back and forth with them with amazing ideas for MW2 and in the end it was for nothing. I am amazed and encouraged that so many people out there (working for free) are working the bugs and mods out on their own while Bethesda says they'll get something to us after Thanksgiving. After Thanksgiving? We sold 3.5 million copies in 48 hours and we're going on vacation now. I know we worked this game for 5 years but, good luck PC community have a turkey. Ok, then I'm a baby because I expected to be taken care of or some of that dough put back in because the operation of it could be so much better than a port.
But... but... PC is beast because MODS!
Yeah, well at least *I* can play on my 360 without an internet connection :-P
Yeah, well at least *I* can play on my 360 without an internet connection :-P
This irritates me, only because the internet in my flat is completely unreliable and Steam's offline mode is a joke.
@jimboxxx
Actually, the only people this affects is people who bought the game legitimately, and it affects all of them. This doesn't affect pirate copies in the slightest.
Actually, the only people this affects is people who bought the game legitimately, and it affects all of them. This doesn't affect pirate copies in the slightest.
wait, what if you dont have a steam account or a constant internet connection, but still download patches (on say a work pc)to fix your game?
@jimboxxx I'm not sure, but I think the reason that PC gamers are upset is because steam will constantly "verify" the integrity of your game files, so that it will over-write tweaks or mods to the .exe file(and cracks too... *cough*... not that anybody would ever steal a game on PC).
Bethesda fucking over PC gamers?! I'm shocked. Just. Shocked.
For those who say "what's the big deal?" - let me explain my reason for why I dislike steam. I have steam on my computer. I have paid for games on steam. It's not a bad system. But please understand that not all of us have the latest, greatest, fastest, most-badass PC of all time. In fact some of us are on budget laptops that can barely handle a lot of modern games if at all.
Maybe I lost your sympathy right there, because I'm neither rich nor obsessed with spending all my disposable income on hardware, but running steam slows my laptop down. I will play games on steam *if I absolutely must*, but otherwise I avoid it like the plague, unless I want my games to run even more slowly than they already would.
So yes, this sucks.
For those who say "what's the big deal?" - let me explain my reason for why I dislike steam. I have steam on my computer. I have paid for games on steam. It's not a bad system. But please understand that not all of us have the latest, greatest, fastest, most-badass PC of all time. In fact some of us are on budget laptops that can barely handle a lot of modern games if at all.
Maybe I lost your sympathy right there, because I'm neither rich nor obsessed with spending all my disposable income on hardware, but running steam slows my laptop down. I will play games on steam *if I absolutely must*, but otherwise I avoid it like the plague, unless I want my games to run even more slowly than they already would.
So yes, this sucks.
I touched on this when the system reqs were released and no one seemed to give a shit. The fact that people are actually angry about this restores some of my faith in humanity.
"Oh god dam it... Question is, was this valve or bethstas doing?"
@Dhaos
it's of course beth's thing. Just because they have choosen Steam and steamworks.
@Dhaos
it's of course beth's thing. Just because they have choosen Steam and steamworks.
What ARRGGGGGH! RAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!! NOOOOO! IM A PC GAMER! Im going to get cross with, I dunno, my cat or something! Steam, argggh!
Oh wait I bought it on steam in the first place. Phew!
Oh wait I bought it on steam in the first place. Phew!
Wow if you think PC gamers are whiners you don't even want to know what the rest of you look like to us.
yeah, i head tons of c2d issues. i have a higher end pc. ended up using the windowed mode with no boards exe. no issues after that. the steam patch destroyed it. win7 has the backup exe saved so i just copy and pasted over again. able to play again with steam interface.
@Holly green
"Us?"
What are you, part of the swarm or the collective or the phalanx or something.
You are legion!
Also, what are you people running steam on? 486 processors or something?
"Us?"
What are you, part of the swarm or the collective or the phalanx or something.
You are legion!
Also, what are you people running steam on? 486 processors or something?
"HUAAHUEGHGH THEY BROKE MY UNOFFICIAL PATCH AND THERE ARE NO FOOTPRINTS IN THE SNOW! FUCK BETHESDA!" Talk about being a bunch of entitled fucks!
I'm pissed they patched this. Now I CTD every half hour or so. Won't be playing this until Bethesda releases an official patch.
Never mind the fact that this would not even be newsworthy if the game was originally released in this manner. Suddenly, offended and annoyed people everywhere.
@Flowen
yes, if it was released like this (as intended) in the first place, it wouldn't be news and people wouldn't bitch about it. people would bitch hard about the game not using more than 2gb RAM and not knowing how to fix that at first. the fact, that bethesda programmers hands seem to be always growing out of their asses, is what offends.
yes, if it was released like this (as intended) in the first place, it wouldn't be news and people wouldn't bitch about it. people would bitch hard about the game not using more than 2gb RAM and not knowing how to fix that at first. the fact, that bethesda programmers hands seem to be always growing out of their asses, is what offends.
This was a weird patch. The game was already hacked and cracked all over the place (Day 1 of course) so the ONLY thing this does is make people that use certain mods download a crack... It's a single player game ffs, so they really has no excuse for cutting down the available hacks/mods.
I think throwing a fit over this is nonsense, but it deserves to be questioned. Bethesda just made a pirated copy more consumer friendly than the Steam version for no apparent reason, and that is fucking dumb.
I think throwing a fit over this is nonsense, but it deserves to be questioned. Bethesda just made a pirated copy more consumer friendly than the Steam version for no apparent reason, and that is fucking dumb.
@Klarden I don't see what a comapny decison has to do with programmers hands growing out of asses, but okay. Oh hey look, I clicked a few times and reinstalled that patch again. I guess those 2 mins of clicking around to install an unofficial patch should make me rage harder since I'm never getting them back. Want to complain about 2GB limit, feel free. The steam requirement topic is not the place to do it. Patches break unofficial mods all the time, nothing new about that.
If you listen very carefully, you can hear master race boys crying: "How am I going to be able to use my cracked... I mean legitimate copy of Skyrim on my PC now?"
@DarkCult, nice try but that has no bearing. It is a patch that does nothing but tie it to steam. Pirates simply need to not install the patch and keep playing the game.
@DarkCult
Uh no, it's actually the complete opposite. It is; "How am I going to play my legit copy now that Bethesda has removed my crash fixes and added none of their own now? The only way is to pirate a pre-patch copy of the game".
Also everybody thinking that a Steam patch magically fucks pirates over is a dumbass. Every steam "update" for major games gets released by crackers for pirates to use. Not to mention pirated steamworks products are extracted and completely detached from Steam, so the updates such as the one in this article ARE NOT applied to pirated copies. Making this update in particular update pointless.
Uh no, it's actually the complete opposite. It is; "How am I going to play my legit copy now that Bethesda has removed my crash fixes and added none of their own now? The only way is to pirate a pre-patch copy of the game".
Also everybody thinking that a Steam patch magically fucks pirates over is a dumbass. Every steam "update" for major games gets released by crackers for pirates to use. Not to mention pirated steamworks products are extracted and completely detached from Steam, so the updates such as the one in this article ARE NOT applied to pirated copies. Making this update in particular update pointless.
...Wait a minute.
The game shipped as a Steamworks title, but you didn't even need Steam installed or something? Is this how Super Meat Boy works, too? (I think I heard something about that...)
The game shipped as a Steamworks title, but you didn't even need Steam installed or something? Is this how Super Meat Boy works, too? (I think I heard something about that...)
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