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i used to be christmas number 1 just like you.
then i took and arrow in the OH MY FUCKING GOD STERLING JUST SHOT AN ARROW INTO MY KNEE
then i took and arrow in the OH MY FUCKING GOD STERLING JUST SHOT AN ARROW INTO MY KNEE
Well deserved. Looking past the bugs, what really comes across is the scale of accomplished ambition. I can't think of another open-world RPG that matches depth with consistent quality so well.
Jim - "Bugs or not, it's a beautiful experience."
LastFencer - "Well deserved. Looking past the bugs"
No offence, but I can't look past the bugs, & it's not a beatiful experience. I've had so many crashes from this buggy piece of crap it's nowhere near funny. I even had to go into the PS3 restore menu & restore the file system thanks to this broken mess. With that & the 2.01 patch that screwed up the resistances to the point I was getting one shot killed by any mage, I very nearly returned this for my money back. Now that 2.02 is out, the game is more stable, & the resistances work again. Unfortunately, the frame rate issues are starting, & they're only going to get worse until the next patch which isn't out until next year. Also, resetting the PS3, not that helpful. I got flipbook, saved, turned off console, reloaded game, still had flipbook.
There's no doubting that in theory it's an amazing accomplishment to get this much into a game, & I'm sure it'll be wonderful once it's fixed, but any other product in any other industry would have been subject to a recall. It should not get GOTY2011 from anyone, it should wait until it's fixed, & then be put up for GOTY2012. After all, it shouldn't have been released this year in the condition it's in.
I want to love this game, & I'm sure I will.....eventually, but not right now.
LastFencer - "Well deserved. Looking past the bugs"
No offence, but I can't look past the bugs, & it's not a beatiful experience. I've had so many crashes from this buggy piece of crap it's nowhere near funny. I even had to go into the PS3 restore menu & restore the file system thanks to this broken mess. With that & the 2.01 patch that screwed up the resistances to the point I was getting one shot killed by any mage, I very nearly returned this for my money back. Now that 2.02 is out, the game is more stable, & the resistances work again. Unfortunately, the frame rate issues are starting, & they're only going to get worse until the next patch which isn't out until next year. Also, resetting the PS3, not that helpful. I got flipbook, saved, turned off console, reloaded game, still had flipbook.
There's no doubting that in theory it's an amazing accomplishment to get this much into a game, & I'm sure it'll be wonderful once it's fixed, but any other product in any other industry would have been subject to a recall. It should not get GOTY2011 from anyone, it should wait until it's fixed, & then be put up for GOTY2012. After all, it shouldn't have been released this year in the condition it's in.
I want to love this game, & I'm sure I will.....eventually, but not right now.
I cant wait to play Skyrim on my PS3, but (no arrow references) Im waiting for the bugfest to be fixed, Im holding muy purchase on this one and Im sure there are a lot of pleople like me waiting for Bethesda to come across and fix it.
But also it seems that there are huge amount of pleople not holding their purchases.
Big fan of this franchise since the excellent Morrowind games, I love it Oblivion and my character is still a badass Vampire, since I could never get rid of the decease because of a bug in the game that never get repaired by Bethesda.
So Im very happy to see my beloved Elder Scrolls get the recognition it deserves, but it also deserves the hate of not releasing a mayor bug free product, since bug free products this days are something imposible.
But also it seems that there are huge amount of pleople not holding their purchases.
Big fan of this franchise since the excellent Morrowind games, I love it Oblivion and my character is still a badass Vampire, since I could never get rid of the decease because of a bug in the game that never get repaired by Bethesda.
So Im very happy to see my beloved Elder Scrolls get the recognition it deserves, but it also deserves the hate of not releasing a mayor bug free product, since bug free products this days are something imposible.
Jesse7277,
But then I'd have to buy an xbox360, & I don't want to do that. I've nothing against the console, but I ain't paying out to play one game I've already bought that SHOULD have worked out of the box.
But then I'd have to buy an xbox360, & I don't want to do that. I've nothing against the console, but I ain't paying out to play one game I've already bought that SHOULD have worked out of the box.
I used to play Skyrim... until I fell through the world and landed on my knee...
Which unfortunately landed on an upturned arrow.
All silliness aside easily my game of the year and well deserving of the sales.
Which unfortunately landed on an upturned arrow.
All silliness aside easily my game of the year and well deserving of the sales.
@tehshin78
"since bug free products this days are something imposible."
The odd quest bug, or backward flying dragons is one thing, & I would put up with this with a smile on my face, but unplayable framerates, game breaking resistance bugs, & crashes in the dozens are completely unacceptable on any game, on any platform.
It's a telling sign that they had to reduce the price down to nearly half in the UK. No wonder it's selling when it's so damn cheap. It'll probably go back up to £40 when they fix it (if they fix it).
"since bug free products this days are something imposible."
The odd quest bug, or backward flying dragons is one thing, & I would put up with this with a smile on my face, but unplayable framerates, game breaking resistance bugs, & crashes in the dozens are completely unacceptable on any game, on any platform.
It's a telling sign that they had to reduce the price down to nearly half in the UK. No wonder it's selling when it's so damn cheap. It'll probably go back up to £40 when they fix it (if they fix it).
@Kaden101
Even if its cheap, wont purchase until the bugs are fixed, if its impossible to fix, or they never fix, wont purchase, maybe a future GotY edition.
When I said that these days is impossible to see a game without bugs, Im not saying that this practice is OK and Im with you on your pseudo hate, since you deserve a playable game for your money, at least my Vampire on Oblivion could still kick ass, but Im not sure if it will kick that much if the frame rate goes frozen.
Even if its cheap, wont purchase until the bugs are fixed, if its impossible to fix, or they never fix, wont purchase, maybe a future GotY edition.
When I said that these days is impossible to see a game without bugs, Im not saying that this practice is OK and Im with you on your pseudo hate, since you deserve a playable game for your money, at least my Vampire on Oblivion could still kick ass, but Im not sure if it will kick that much if the frame rate goes frozen.
I just fucking adore this game, best escapism in years. No problems can erase that feeling from my heart NONE
Fine, no more arrows in the knee.
Hey apparently those Redguards they've got Curved swords. Curved swords!
Hey apparently those Redguards they've got Curved swords. Curved swords!
The first 20 hours of Skyrim is amazing. Then you turn it on one day, and realize that it should have been called Cut & Paste Quest.
Nobody will go back to this game 10 years from now. It's mostly about hype and appealing tp the LOWEST COMMON HIPSTINATOR.
Nobody will go back to this game 10 years from now. It's mostly about hype and appealing tp the LOWEST COMMON HIPSTINATOR.
@Brainwasher
If the new lowest common hipstedenominator means sweeping well crafted (mostly) single player experiences then I'm satisfied with that.
If the new lowest common hipstedenominator means sweeping well crafted (mostly) single player experiences then I'm satisfied with that.
"Although the gamer community seems to be increasingly turning against Skyrim (as is the fate of all popular games)"
Newton's Third Law came to mind..."for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."
Did anyone really think that after the mindless, frothing honeymoon period that people had with the game upon release that those who aren't lucky enough to partake in the festivities weren't gonna turn against it? And that knowledge of its shortcomings wasn't gonna become apparent through word-of-mouth or after the insane amount of time people put into the game? It's so easy to think everything's dandy when it's not happening to you.
I completely agree, Jim, that the game's positives far outweigh the negatives...but some of its negatives are game-breaking for people whose sole crime was buying it for the PS3. You either don't port it to the console with the weird architecture, or you do it right. It's not unreasonable to ask for a game that won't bust on you in the worst way, and all the bitching about the bugs is good for the series. Makes it better with each passing game.* Skyrim's better out of the box than Oblivion was, and I don't think it was because of people's blind love for Oblivion.
*Or not. We'll see if they reuse Gamebryo a third (fourth?) time.
Newton's Third Law came to mind..."for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."
Did anyone really think that after the mindless, frothing honeymoon period that people had with the game upon release that those who aren't lucky enough to partake in the festivities weren't gonna turn against it? And that knowledge of its shortcomings wasn't gonna become apparent through word-of-mouth or after the insane amount of time people put into the game? It's so easy to think everything's dandy when it's not happening to you.
I completely agree, Jim, that the game's positives far outweigh the negatives...but some of its negatives are game-breaking for people whose sole crime was buying it for the PS3. You either don't port it to the console with the weird architecture, or you do it right. It's not unreasonable to ask for a game that won't bust on you in the worst way, and all the bitching about the bugs is good for the series. Makes it better with each passing game.* Skyrim's better out of the box than Oblivion was, and I don't think it was because of people's blind love for Oblivion.
*Or not. We'll see if they reuse Gamebryo a third (fourth?) time.
I have to agree with BrainWasherAttendent on his first point.
I was really enjoying Skyrim until I hit the point where every quest started feeling the same.
I can only play repetitive "go to this dungeon, to get this item" quests for so long before I start getting a bad taste in my mouth.
I haven't touched Skyrim since somewhere in mid November.
I just hope that the next Fallout doesn't fall into this same hole. Having to deal with the mediocre writing and story of Bethesda games is bad enough, but when they start messing up on the basic gameplay structure it starts getting pretty shitty.
The best I can hope for is that Obsidian develop the next Fallout, seeing as they actually know what they're doing with the Fallout universe and it's lore, not to mention their writing staff is infinitely superior to that of Bethesda's, among other things.
Sorry for going off topic...
I was really enjoying Skyrim until I hit the point where every quest started feeling the same.
I can only play repetitive "go to this dungeon, to get this item" quests for so long before I start getting a bad taste in my mouth.
I haven't touched Skyrim since somewhere in mid November.
I just hope that the next Fallout doesn't fall into this same hole. Having to deal with the mediocre writing and story of Bethesda games is bad enough, but when they start messing up on the basic gameplay structure it starts getting pretty shitty.
The best I can hope for is that Obsidian develop the next Fallout, seeing as they actually know what they're doing with the Fallout universe and it's lore, not to mention their writing staff is infinitely superior to that of Bethesda's, among other things.
Sorry for going off topic...
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