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As i said in the other similar post today, this will hurt MY wallet, but i think it's perfectly justified.
More incentive to buy new over pre-owned.
OR
Even cheaper pre-owned games if you just want the single player part!
More incentive to buy new over pre-owned.
OR
Even cheaper pre-owned games if you just want the single player part!
So does this new ripoff amount to? Basically paying separately (twice) for offline and online portion of the game, right?
@lhaymehr
No, you get a code with a new purchase of the game which gives you the online portion free. It's only pre-owned sales that require an extra purchase to play online.
No, you get a code with a new purchase of the game which gives you the online portion free. It's only pre-owned sales that require an extra purchase to play online.
You know what would help lhaymehr, Reading the post.
The activation code is included in new copies of the game, while preowned copies may or may not include it.
The activation code is included in new copies of the game, while preowned copies may or may not include it.
This trend is getting out of hand. I share my games with my little brother as he has no income. So just because I bought and used the code I am not able to fully share this game with him. They expect us to buy 2 copies so that he can use a major part of the game? Bullshit. Guess they have that purchase a code online thing for $10 but still >_> Ugh...
i don't like it. not everybody can afford new. rather than fuck with our wallets, they should make deals with retailers to make some money back from second-hand sales. retailers make all the profit on second-hand sales. Consumers make nothing, they just get a good [properly priced] value game.
Does this online code DRM the same as DLC? In other words does it DRM to the console so that offline accounts can still use the feature? If so then this is fine by me as it isn't any different than the current DLC DRM and if not then I'll definitely be pissed.
How longer until they start locking part or even all of the single-player game behind an online activation code?
Oh, I guess Namco and Capcom already did... and as always, the gigantic wave of saboteurs and protesters never did anything about it, they were too busy paying for it and playing.
We did this to ourselves, both by supporting an abusive pre-owned market (¿really, only $5 less?) and by accepting and paying for this broken approach to DLC.
Oh, I guess Namco and Capcom already did... and as always, the gigantic wave of saboteurs and protesters never did anything about it, they were too busy paying for it and playing.
We did this to ourselves, both by supporting an abusive pre-owned market (¿really, only $5 less?) and by accepting and paying for this broken approach to DLC.
I've got no problems with this, it's about time developers and publishers took back the profits reaped by places like Gamestop from used games. Most games that are "recent" are only $5 or so cheaper than their new ones anyway, so less incentive for people to buy new.
Never one to agree with big companies, but this is one decision I don't mind agreeing with. It's ridiculous almost half the game sales in the US is through used games.I'd imagine if some of that got put back to the devs / publishers, at least a few studios and their employees would still have jobs.
Never one to agree with big companies, but this is one decision I don't mind agreeing with. It's ridiculous almost half the game sales in the US is through used games.I'd imagine if some of that got put back to the devs / publishers, at least a few studios and their employees would still have jobs.
@munkee, not all games are bought used through retailers and some are passed within families as KTC64 points out.
@Corduroy, just deal with it? Nice answer. So you are fine games costing more for families with kids? You must live alone.
@Corduroy, just deal with it? Nice answer. So you are fine games costing more for families with kids? You must live alone.
I can understand it, but this is one of those "slippery slope" things that I can easily imagine going too far in the future. There is the potential, as m_earendil mentioned, of essentially nullifying pre-owned game sales with these codes. Many people, including myself, can't afford that. The last console game I brought was used, and that was the only console game I could afford since Fall.
i would normally buy a skate game new everytime. but this new EA thing is pretty much an ender for me. i'm going to not buy the game at all.
I love the reaction "I will just pay more." It has to be a sign of some form of brain damage. Seriously, your mom dropped your head.
@Holesome
Exactly! thats why the publishers should target retailers not consumers. The reason that this is happening is because retailers are making huge money from second-hand game sales and the developers/publishers are making no profit from this. So, to work around this they are adding activation codes to games.
BULLSHIT!
So, whats really happening here is:
-The publisher makes money from new game sales.
-The store makes money from second-hand games sales.
-The publisher then makes more money from these games sales.
-The consumer gets the shitty end of the bargain.
We pay full price for a game which we can play. But, if we decide to give the game to a family member or, a poor friend, then they have to pay the publisher again to be able to play it all properly. If you buy a videogame and give it to a family member, then thats your choice. You paid for it already! That isn't whats denting the developers & publishers income. Its the sale of second-hand games from highstreet and online retailers. Publishers have no idea how to control this, so instead, they make their money back the easy way. Charge the gullible consumers as they obviously have more money than sense.
THIS ISN'T RIGHT!
fuck man, this whole fucking DLC / activation bullshit really pisses me off. I have spoken about this on here before and a few have stood with me. We are being treated like fucking idiots! Go through your videogame collection. Add the value of consoles, games [even ones you sold on] and accessories. Happy with how much your spending already? good. continue..
Exactly! thats why the publishers should target retailers not consumers. The reason that this is happening is because retailers are making huge money from second-hand game sales and the developers/publishers are making no profit from this. So, to work around this they are adding activation codes to games.
BULLSHIT!
So, whats really happening here is:
-The publisher makes money from new game sales.
-The store makes money from second-hand games sales.
-The publisher then makes more money from these games sales.
-The consumer gets the shitty end of the bargain.
We pay full price for a game which we can play. But, if we decide to give the game to a family member or, a poor friend, then they have to pay the publisher again to be able to play it all properly. If you buy a videogame and give it to a family member, then thats your choice. You paid for it already! That isn't whats denting the developers & publishers income. Its the sale of second-hand games from highstreet and online retailers. Publishers have no idea how to control this, so instead, they make their money back the easy way. Charge the gullible consumers as they obviously have more money than sense.
THIS ISN'T RIGHT!
fuck man, this whole fucking DLC / activation bullshit really pisses me off. I have spoken about this on here before and a few have stood with me. We are being treated like fucking idiots! Go through your videogame collection. Add the value of consoles, games [even ones you sold on] and accessories. Happy with how much your spending already? good. continue..
@pandarelated
seriously, if you stick to what you said then i admire you for that! If we all took this stance things would change pretty quickly :)
seriously, if you stick to what you said then i admire you for that! If we all took this stance things would change pretty quickly :)
Funny thing is, second hand stores will just compensate their price for the used one. If it becomes $5~$10 to get that, that's how much lower it will be used, hopefully with already the $5 or 10% off also. Which makes EA dig a bigger hole for themselves... imagine if a customer saw the difference, I bet he/she would say "Oh man, Skate 3 is $44.99 used?! I'm -so- getting this over the $60 one!"
Pretty smart on EA's part. I don't think the used buyers give a fuck about EA and now those buyers are mad that EA doesn't give a fuck about them. A lovely relationship.
Anyway, I wouldn't say that this is a "huge part" of the game, as some of you seem to think. It's nice, but not integral to the experience.
Anyway, I wouldn't say that this is a "huge part" of the game, as some of you seem to think. It's nice, but not integral to the experience.
@smurgee mcgee
"I wouldn't say that this is a "huge part" of the game..."
Yeah, just the online portion. I mean, who plays video games online these days?
Look at it this way: if you buy used games, and you're on the fence about paying for a Live Gold membership, this is your big chance to save as much as $20. Then, when Microsoft jacks up the price for their online service as a response to all this lost revenue, you can sit back and laugh.
"I wouldn't say that this is a "huge part" of the game..."
Yeah, just the online portion. I mean, who plays video games online these days?
Look at it this way: if you buy used games, and you're on the fence about paying for a Live Gold membership, this is your big chance to save as much as $20. Then, when Microsoft jacks up the price for their online service as a response to all this lost revenue, you can sit back and laugh.
This, THIS is what you get for supporting DLC! THIS is what you get for buying digital content. THIS is what you get for accepting that console games should be patched! THIS is what you get when a company decides to put a hard drive in a home console.
On the Playstation 2, THIS was not possible, game makers had to get it right the first time rather than rushing to a deadline and fixing things later.
People out there are dumb enough to play apologists and defend a decision that costs them or others more money. Just because you're too stupid to appreciate the value of the dollar doesn't mean the rest of us have that grade-school dropout mentality.
I'm sorry, let me rephrase that for some of you:
hurrrduuurrrr spend moar is nawt bettre lol hurrr.
derp
On the Playstation 2, THIS was not possible, game makers had to get it right the first time rather than rushing to a deadline and fixing things later.
People out there are dumb enough to play apologists and defend a decision that costs them or others more money. Just because you're too stupid to appreciate the value of the dollar doesn't mean the rest of us have that grade-school dropout mentality.
I'm sorry, let me rephrase that for some of you:
hurrrduuurrrr spend moar is nawt bettre lol hurrr.
derp
Everybody who is complaining about publishers trying to cut down on people buying their games used are probably part of the problem to begin with and hate that they can't just take the cheap fucker's way out.
Buy new and support the developers or just shut the fuck up and quit whining.
Buy new and support the developers or just shut the fuck up and quit whining.
If I'm paying for the right to play a game I'm fine with that but if a licence is what I'm paying for I'd expect that to be reflected in a lesser price. If I buy a game outright I expect to be able to do whateverthefuck I want with it after I'm done.. You sold it to me. It is mine. I can do that with a car, phone, DVDs etc what makes a game any different?
Dlc isn't the criminal here. That is an honest licence situation. It's that theryre slowly changing what your actually getting with a disk but not changing what you're dishing out. That's where I call bullshit.
Dlc isn't the criminal here. That is an honest licence situation. It's that theryre slowly changing what your actually getting with a disk but not changing what you're dishing out. That's where I call bullshit.
@ JoeCamNet
You obviously have more money than sense. Enjoy getting financially butt-fucked for the rest of your life :D
I'm pretty sure that publishers would happily sell their games used if they made the money from them. After all, it would mean selling the same piece of software twice, maybe more. Try telling me thats not a good deal for a publisher.
You obviously have more money than sense. Enjoy getting financially butt-fucked for the rest of your life :D
I'm pretty sure that publishers would happily sell their games used if they made the money from them. After all, it would mean selling the same piece of software twice, maybe more. Try telling me thats not a good deal for a publisher.
I think its screwed. Fair enough if its second hand but if more than one person using the game either its going to cost extra or someone misses out.
EG Me & my bro went halves in the game but only one of us can use the code meaning only one can access the community features. That earns A big middle middle finger salute to u EA!
EG Me & my bro went halves in the game but only one of us can use the code meaning only one can access the community features. That earns A big middle middle finger salute to u EA!
This is the dumbest idea ever. My bro put in the code first and now I cant use it!!! EA is now almost as bad as Activision again!!!!!!!!!
So, I have to pay for Xbox live, you know, that thing that lets me play online...and then I have to pay AGAIN to use all of the online features...WTF?!?!
And to "theonlylolking", I TOTALLY agree with you, it makes no sense! considering that the majority of people buying EA games have at least one relative that will also play the game, and want to access online content, but now they won't be able to because EA is sad about second hand sales? that's majorly retarded...
And to "theonlylolking", I TOTALLY agree with you, it makes no sense! considering that the majority of people buying EA games have at least one relative that will also play the game, and want to access online content, but now they won't be able to because EA is sad about second hand sales? that's majorly retarded...
I was pissed when I found this out. I was at the store and I saw that the used version was 6 bucks cheaper, and so I bought it, so that my saved 6 bucks could buy the Maloof Money area. So I buy it, make a sweet ass vid, go to upload, and find out I am robbed of doing that. Its depressing that you cant even do what the game boasts as a major selling feature.
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