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We already have a nice HD version on PC, than k you. Now if you would mind rereleasing them on Steam or GOG, Konami...
Well I can live with shitty voice acting on a game that hardly has any voice acting. (I played all the way through Silent Hill 2 and 3). At least they didn't change the lead character in Silent Hill 2 like what capcom did in Devil May Cry. :P
No one should be at all surprised by this, did anyone really think they were recasting to make the voice acting better?
Whatever. Konami has shown no respect for this series in years. Silent Hill died years ago, its name only lives on because of its recognition. Same could be said for many series that existed before the great mainstream influx.
Whatever. Konami has shown no respect for this series in years. Silent Hill died years ago, its name only lives on because of its recognition. Same could be said for many series that existed before the great mainstream influx.
this is a deal breaker for me.
going from horribly amazing atmospheres to laughable voices is no good
going from horribly amazing atmospheres to laughable voices is no good
"brainderailment
The voice acting doesn't bother me as much as the sound design. Everyone has an "on mic" sound to their voice, no reverb, no space. It's like they're talking directly into your ear, but they are 5 feet from the camera."
*stepping out of character for a moment*
This was the first thing I noticed, hopefully it will be fixed in the game and this was just an early version before they could add more dimension to the audio.
*back in character*
but the PS3 version of this will be perfect and the 360 version will be craptacular. 360 is poop!
The voice acting doesn't bother me as much as the sound design. Everyone has an "on mic" sound to their voice, no reverb, no space. It's like they're talking directly into your ear, but they are 5 feet from the camera."
*stepping out of character for a moment*
This was the first thing I noticed, hopefully it will be fixed in the game and this was just an early version before they could add more dimension to the audio.
*back in character*
but the PS3 version of this will be perfect and the 360 version will be craptacular. 360 is poop!
I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind them? Bad voice acting in Horror games is pretty standard fare. However I don't think these are all that bad.
A lot of voice acting sounds like shit before you put in all the background/atmosphere sounds
A lot of voice acting sounds like shit before you put in all the background/atmosphere sounds
Yech. One of the things I enjoyed from the original performances was the hint of sadness in all of the dialogue. There's none of that here.
I'm with Kyogissun on this. Troy Baker? Did a fantastic job as Vincent in Catherine, will probably do a good job here. Mary Elizabeth McGlynn? She's been involved in the series since, what...SH3? I think this will be fine. The main problem here is these are just straight up samples. No mixing, no ambiance, nothing. That's really what it needs, and that's why it sounds weird at this point.
What's with the stupid argument I hear about this game that "two games isn't a collection!" I don't hear the same complaints about the ZOE collection. I also don't recall hearing this nonsense two years ago with the God of War Collection. Gasp, that only had TWO games!
@Byronic
Are u kidding me? That commercial was the best part of the whole damn video.
@Chad
That's what it is. James and many of the other characters sounded so unbelievably pathetic and sad. You don't see that a lot in games, and now we have these "professionals" that do a technical good job but fail to touch on anything resembling weakness here.
Are u kidding me? That commercial was the best part of the whole damn video.
@Chad
That's what it is. James and many of the other characters sounded so unbelievably pathetic and sad. You don't see that a lot in games, and now we have these "professionals" that do a technical good job but fail to touch on anything resembling weakness here.
wow, just wow. What's happening to all these japanese developers/producers nowadays? Square has been making some really bad choices. Capcom has been making some really bad choices and now Konami. I heard Japanese talents has been declining but wow, just wow. I won't be buying it.
The woman who played Mary/Maria in the original was absolutely brilliant in the original - there was absolutely NO reason to replace her.
As far as the others go: congrats Konami, you've replaced duff voice acting with duff voice acting. Money well spent. Money that could've gone to porting the Silent Hill or Silent Hill 4 to the collection.
Speaking of which, does 2 games = "Collection"?
As far as the others go: congrats Konami, you've replaced duff voice acting with duff voice acting. Money well spent. Money that could've gone to porting the Silent Hill or Silent Hill 4 to the collection.
Speaking of which, does 2 games = "Collection"?
Furthermore, acting is two parts: the voice and the visual presentation. Nothing. NOTHING is going to make those awkward human visual models sound good. This is mostly why I'm against recasting in the first place, because no matter how professional and believable the job comes from the actors, the emotions on those models still look like ass.
Anyone who says they thought the original was great, and yes, I'm addressing all of you, has a serious case of nostalgia goggles. It. Was. Absolute. Tosh. It was never good. It's never going to be good. And frankly, it's not what the game was about anyway. Hell, consider the amount of spoken lines/scenes there are in the game. It's a rather small percentage, and every time I watched those cutscenes, I grinned and cringed over how bad they are. I'd likely be doing the same for the HD version would it be my first time playing at all.
It's not "defending the lowest common denominator". It's calling people out on realizing that they're becoming just like those crotchety old folks who sit on porches and whistle through their false teeth about how the old days were better. To quote Yahtzee, nostalgia is a mouthful of balls.
Anyone who says they thought the original was great, and yes, I'm addressing all of you, has a serious case of nostalgia goggles. It. Was. Absolute. Tosh. It was never good. It's never going to be good. And frankly, it's not what the game was about anyway. Hell, consider the amount of spoken lines/scenes there are in the game. It's a rather small percentage, and every time I watched those cutscenes, I grinned and cringed over how bad they are. I'd likely be doing the same for the HD version would it be my first time playing at all.
It's not "defending the lowest common denominator". It's calling people out on realizing that they're becoming just like those crotchety old folks who sit on porches and whistle through their false teeth about how the old days were better. To quote Yahtzee, nostalgia is a mouthful of balls.
I don't really get it..there are good voice actors out there. Just look at the Stanley Parable - solid voice acting. Why is it that indie developers seem to be able to find better voice actors than these big budget games? The world shall never know...
Sounded fine to me. Maria was good. The rest did not have enough lines to judge, quite honestly.
I get the impression that a lot of people were going to hate the voice work no matter what.
I get the impression that a lot of people were going to hate the voice work no matter what.
I don't see or hear anything wrong with it, maybe becuase i don't remember taht well the original voices, but still, don't really see the problem.
I didn't think the voices were terrible, but the direction is way off on an emotional plane.
It doesn't fit the characters.
"I'm not your mary."
Where did Maria's subtle arrogance go?
It doesn't fit the characters.
"I'm not your mary."
Where did Maria's subtle arrogance go?
Why do the voices even *need* to be re-recorded, new actors or not? It's not like the original sound files ceased to exist.
I can't wait until the "new soundtrack by Daniel Licht" announcement, then we can really see this mess implode.
I can't wait until the "new soundtrack by Daniel Licht" announcement, then we can really see this mess implode.
The original voices were terrible. These are pretty bad too. To be honest, it's not like we were better off with the originals anyway.
These aren't shitty voice actors...really? These guys sound 10xs better than the original and the originals were way cheesy and just bad. If you notice these guys do voiceovers for anime shows and are way more professional sounding. The gaming community just doesn't like change does it? Jim including is just a hate mongerer.
Well I never played Silent Hill 2 before so I watched some videos to compare the VO and wow its amazing how fucking horrible this new HD sounds.
In case some people want to do the comparisons for themselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIgse_uxHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIgse_uxHg
Sterling, bro, I usually agree with a lot of things you have to say but you're being overly sensationalist about this. Naturally the new voices are going to sound off given how you've had roughly ten years of familiarity with the older voices. Try to approach this from an objective perspective. The new cast of voice actors are a AAA-crew who know their shit. Silent Hill 2's original delivery was a lot like a stage performance. It helped aid to the uncanny valley effect--but it absolutely butchered certain key scenes like at the end of Angela's arc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIgse_uxHg
MY ONLY gripe is with Mary's voice. Every other voice is about the same.
MY ONLY gripe is with Mary's voice. Every other voice is about the same.
After thinking about it, except for Eddie the voices are fine. There's only so much an actor can do with terrible dialogue like that.
I just threw up a whole lot in my mouth.
It certainly LOOKS good, but it sounds.. well pretty much like vomit.
It certainly LOOKS good, but it sounds.. well pretty much like vomit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIgse_uxHg
MY ONLY gripe is with Mary's voice. Every other voice is about the same.
MY ONLY gripe is with Mary's voice. Every other voice is about the same.
Personally, I think James' voice is better but it's very unfitting for the character.
Like the voice actor himself is not bad... But that's not James...
Like the voice actor himself is not bad... But that's not James...
James is the worst fit of the bunch. Mary is a take it or leave it, Eddie sucks, but James is just flat out wrong.
James Sunderland is supposed to sound weak and pathetic, this voice sounds like he's one bench press away from roid rage.
James Sunderland is supposed to sound weak and pathetic, this voice sounds like he's one bench press away from roid rage.
C'mon guys the only bad voice I heard there was Eddy. Mary is obv. voiced by McGlynn which isn't a bad thing at all. And in my opinion Jame's voice actor sounded scarily close to the original.
To all the people saying that these only sound bad because there's been no post work done on them, I say only this:
You can't polish a turd.
You can't polish a turd.
My only issue with the voices is that they sound like they're recording inside a cardbord box. Otherwise the reading quality is a whole lot better than than http://youtu.be/osGBsgfbUaQ
This is pretty shitty, I already have 2/3 for PS2, no reason to buy newer shittier ones. HD is cool but new audio seems horrific.
Oh god Mary... Mary! What have they done to your voice?!?!
I know it's generally accepted that SH2 had a less than stellar voice acting, but I absolutely loved Mary/Maria's voice; it was so full of emotion and it made me cry when she reads the letter in the ending. This one here has as much emotion as a stump, especially in the "(...) I'm real" sentence (which is iconic of the game, it's even in the freaking soundtrack).
I think I'll stick with the original, it's still quite playable and in my opinion aged well.
I know it's generally accepted that SH2 had a less than stellar voice acting, but I absolutely loved Mary/Maria's voice; it was so full of emotion and it made me cry when she reads the letter in the ending. This one here has as much emotion as a stump, especially in the "(...) I'm real" sentence (which is iconic of the game, it's even in the freaking soundtrack).
I think I'll stick with the original, it's still quite playable and in my opinion aged well.
As someone who has never played SH at all and wanted to get this, they sound good to me.
Obviously I lack context on the scenes and the characters, but most of you are sitting there with nostalgia goggles on and it's a little sad and bit creepy.
Why sad and creepy? Well, sad and creepy both because I've at times been this much of a whiny little bitch about these kinds of things in the past. It's like I'm looking into a mirror and wow do I need to fucking grow up.
Reality check here SH fanatics: The old voices were never that good and you've simply built them up on lies.
Obviously I lack context on the scenes and the characters, but most of you are sitting there with nostalgia goggles on and it's a little sad and bit creepy.
Why sad and creepy? Well, sad and creepy both because I've at times been this much of a whiny little bitch about these kinds of things in the past. It's like I'm looking into a mirror and wow do I need to fucking grow up.
Reality check here SH fanatics: The old voices were never that good and you've simply built them up on lies.
When I heard it was PS3 Exclusive: SAD
When I heard it was for Xbox360 too: HAPPY
When I just heard it: SAD
When I heard it was for Xbox360 too: HAPPY
When I just heard it: SAD
The original voice work for James was so bad that it was distracting. I can't see this as anything but an improvement. Mary sounds different, but still good.
Ultimately, though, this isn't a big deal either way. I enjoyed the original despite James' horrible voice, so I have little doubt I would enjoy this version as well. The things some gamers shed tears of outrage over are hilarious.
Ultimately, though, this isn't a big deal either way. I enjoyed the original despite James' horrible voice, so I have little doubt I would enjoy this version as well. The things some gamers shed tears of outrage over are hilarious.
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