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Do you know how long 58 minutes is in internet time? It's 700 years. I believe you about these though.
58 minutes? You fucking kidding? I watched like three minutes of that shit before gouging my eyes out wondering what was going on...then I saw the time....
I enjoyed that, though it was pretty depressing to watch and realise how badly they screwed up porting a game that's like 10 years old. Makes me glad I didn't put any money down for it.
Wow, these guys put a ton of effort into finding all these faults. This is quite detailed on all the problems. 2 years of making this release and there were this many problems? It makes no sense! I feel really bad for fans of the Silent Hill series, especially Masahiro Ito.
I can appreciate the effort these guys put in...but I struggled to watch even eight minutes of that. The lameass attempt at jokes and puns killed the whole thing for me. Had they just stayed focused and serious I might have watched the whole thing.
I was seriously considering this collection for my PS3; Silent Hill 3 is my favorite of the SH games, but then I read your review. But since the game's initial release, Konami has offered a patch for the PS3 that fixes the technical hiccups, right?
@HoFT013
You haven't watched the video since you're asking that question.
So, to answer your question: no.
You haven't watched the video since you're asking that question.
So, to answer your question: no.
"well researched"? are you kidding me? these guys are renowned in the silent hill community for the most biased, non-fact-based videos ever to grace youtube.
Well researched? TwinPerfect is getting known for having cherry-picked most of their information, provided [mis]quotes without context with the intention to mislead, and flat-out used false information from shady sources to prove their points. They're a travesty to the word RESEARCH.
This video also isn't telling Silent Hill fans anything they don't already know. Konami even offered refund-type exchanges for those who bought the HD Collection because it was so shit and there were so many complaints
This video also isn't telling Silent Hill fans anything they don't already know. Konami even offered refund-type exchanges for those who bought the HD Collection because it was so shit and there were so many complaints
@Allistair Pinsof - a friend (voidburger) and i are currently working on a detailed analysis of everything twin perfect got wrong in their 'the real silent hill experience' videos. it's called 'the grate debate' and you can find out more about it here: https://www.facebook.com/TheGrateDebate
you can say that their latest video about the hd collection was 'well researched' (at a glance it seems to be just a culmination of things gleaned from playing the games; plus, we'd need more time to check their facts), but what you said about their other videos being well researched is just flat-out wrong. if you want i can provide specific examples here seeing as our script was only recently finished and video production has yet to begin.
you can say that their latest video about the hd collection was 'well researched' (at a glance it seems to be just a culmination of things gleaned from playing the games; plus, we'd need more time to check their facts), but what you said about their other videos being well researched is just flat-out wrong. if you want i can provide specific examples here seeing as our script was only recently finished and video production has yet to begin.
Biased or not, their jokes and presentation grate the eyes and ears. They should drop the two herbs and just let the ginger deliver the talking points. I mean, the guy on the right serves no purpose other than to be a strawman. We don't need a live stand-in for strawmen.
Watched the whole thing and it's a great video, everyone should watch it, it's really impressive how much information they dug up to make this video, really awesome!
I've never played a Silent Hill game but I found this very entertaining - a good way to distract myself from work for an hour. I feel bad for the SH fans who got shafted by this.
Why does everything had to be criticized, debated, attacked, demeaned, or refuted? Why do people have no self esteem that they have to attack everything on the Internet. Dear god, do us all a favor and of you don't wanna watch something, then don't. It's just a damn video. In talking to Bobby Cowling btw. Get a fucking life. Who gives a shit. It's a video game. One that the screwed a lot of stuff up on. Why does this video and everything on the interet have to be subject to scientific analysis?
I don't think ArdentSnow knows anything about Silent Hill fandom lol. They're fucking nuts for analyzing stuff. It's what they DO
ya know... these guys are clearly jackasses and that's fine. That seems to be their schtick. I actually made it like 33 minutes into this video. Then they started preaching about trophies and the guy actually said "trophies are not a reason to replay a game and you're playing it for the wrong reasons" and i stopped watching.
I don't need some douchebag on the internet dictating to me what is and isn't a valid reason to play a game. That guy can straight up go fuck himself.
I don't need some douchebag on the internet dictating to me what is and isn't a valid reason to play a game. That guy can straight up go fuck himself.
@Ardent Snow - because twin perfect are pretending their videos are full of irrefutable facts and acting you're an idiot if you think otherwise. have you seen all their videos? it'd be one thing if these guys were just like 'let's make silly videos about silent hill and give people our two cents', but in the very first video in the TRSHE series they say "everything we say is backed up with irrefutable evidence". and that's just plain wrong.
if you like it when people lie to you then fine, watch these videos. if you just want to be entertained, go ahead and press play. i'm not stopping you.
if you like it when people lie to you then fine, watch these videos. if you just want to be entertained, go ahead and press play. i'm not stopping you.
I guess it just goes to show, regardless if it's ruining a fresco or a videogame. Someone who doesn't know what they are doing should just not attempt to remaster a work of art.
*cue the more you know jingle*
*cue the more you know jingle*
@bobby cowling you are acting like this is a video about some really important issue. It's a video on the Internet. Why do we have to get so butt hurt about something when we disagree? I don't even know why I'm arguing with you, I'm doing exactly what you are doing. I hate the Internet...
Well before knowing these guys are apparently "not well-researched"... I thought it was pretty "well-researched". A lot of what they showed was backed up by visual/audio evidence, unless it was just fabricated.
Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, these guys did a great job (although they were being far too picky at a couple points).
Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, these guys did a great job (although they were being far too picky at a couple points).
Also, is there anyone out there that really defends this HD collection? I have not yet met a single person who picked up that game and said, "This shit is great!"
I just cannot for the life of me understand what purpose this douche on the right serves, other than to set up annoying rants and tirades like the one Tristix pointed out.
And ffs, take off the sunglasses. You're on Youtube talking about video games in your room, not the set of the Matrix Reloaded.
It's a real shame, because they actually bring up a lot of great points and give Konami the beatdown they deserve for this game. It's just so unbearable that you really have to weigh whether it's worth sitting through such an awful presentation. You almost do more harm to yourself in the process by watching the whole thing, just to spite Konami.
I just cannot for the life of me understand what purpose this douche on the right serves, other than to set up annoying rants and tirades like the one Tristix pointed out.
And ffs, take off the sunglasses. You're on Youtube talking about video games in your room, not the set of the Matrix Reloaded.
It's a real shame, because they actually bring up a lot of great points and give Konami the beatdown they deserve for this game. It's just so unbearable that you really have to weigh whether it's worth sitting through such an awful presentation. You almost do more harm to yourself in the process by watching the whole thing, just to spite Konami.
Yes, now let's all pretend their demeanor changes anything. Instead of ripping on these guys for whatever reason, we should be ripping Konami to shreds for what it did here. To fucking shreds.
There's a lot of shit people get up in arms about that doesn't mean all that much, I'm as guilty of this as anyone. But Jesus Fucking Christ, the extent of the shitballing in this game should be something everyone and their blind mentally disabled grandma should be able to get behind an asswhoopin for.
Such an incredible lack of respect should sting us more than anyone. But hey, because it's these guys who point that out, let's pretend like the most important thing to do here is make the conversation about them exclusively!
Do we really fucking wonder why Konami et al know they can pull shit like this?
There's a lot of shit people get up in arms about that doesn't mean all that much, I'm as guilty of this as anyone. But Jesus Fucking Christ, the extent of the shitballing in this game should be something everyone and their blind mentally disabled grandma should be able to get behind an asswhoopin for.
Such an incredible lack of respect should sting us more than anyone. But hey, because it's these guys who point that out, let's pretend like the most important thing to do here is make the conversation about them exclusively!
Do we really fucking wonder why Konami et al know they can pull shit like this?
Except everyone already knew this game sucked, and we already knew Konami were a bunch of assholes, and we already knew how little they cared.
These dudes are about half a year late with this video. The choir has already heard this sermon a thousand times. We're well versed in it.
These dudes are about half a year late with this video. The choir has already heard this sermon a thousand times. We're well versed in it.
The re-enactment of the sound effects was fucking hilarious. It was worth it for that scene alone.
Konami's treatment of Silent Hill has been a complete joke. Even Capcom gives the Resident Evil series more respect. If it's not Metal Gear Solid or Castlevania, Konami doesn't give a flying dick.
Konami's treatment of Silent Hill has been a complete joke. Even Capcom gives the Resident Evil series more respect. If it's not Metal Gear Solid or Castlevania, Konami doesn't give a flying dick.
@Ardent Snow
Did you seriously asked someone to go get a life because it's just a video game? Clearly you haven't watched all of Twin Perfect's video on Silent hill. They have a shit ton of video based on analyzing a video game. Clearly some people don't see that Silent Hill is just a video game
Did you seriously asked someone to go get a life because it's just a video game? Clearly you haven't watched all of Twin Perfect's video on Silent hill. They have a shit ton of video based on analyzing a video game. Clearly some people don't see that Silent Hill is just a video game
Ok but the games do not run on all computers. I spent at least 5 hours trying to get the sound to not fucking loop and it refused.
Then I tracked down the ps2 version and realised that the games look better in a lower res anyway.
Then I tracked down the ps2 version and realised that the games look better in a lower res anyway.
I watched the whole thing, it's pretty terrible all that shit slipped by. Audio queues are very important in a horror game, they require probably more attention to detail than the rest of the game.
I notice all the naysayers in here attack the people rather than their arguments, not one of you useless fucks has presented a single counter-point with OR WITHOUT evidence!
This leads me to believe you are only motivated by the butthurt you feel for being swindled into paying for this farce.
Good job, losers.
I notice all the naysayers in here attack the people rather than their arguments, not one of you useless fucks has presented a single counter-point with OR WITHOUT evidence!
This leads me to believe you are only motivated by the butthurt you feel for being swindled into paying for this farce.
Good job, losers.
@Syn - i don't think anyone here is saying the hd collection is good. it's pretty much universally condemned by everyone.. well, except ign: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/03/19/silent-hill-hd-collection-review (they gave it a 9/10).
@Syn - your point was "you're butt-hurt losers if you're saying anything against twin perfect because you paid for the hd collection". pretty solid point you got there.
also, i love how you complain about people attacking "people rather than their arguments", then you go on to call those people "useless fucks" and "losers".
also, i love how you complain about people attacking "people rather than their arguments", then you go on to call those people "useless fucks" and "losers".
Yikes. I wanted to watch this, but by the time I realized I was getting insanely bored, I minimized and saw that I was barely 1/10th into the video. Fuuuuuck that.
Just finished the while video. Whether or not you agree with their opinions, almost all of their points are supported by evidence... And it seems insanely researched. Holy fuck, this is a terrible port. Wtf, Konami?
@Bobby Cowling: In the biz we call that a straw man. Allow me to supply you with an accurate quote: "I notice all the naysayers in here attack the people rather than their arguments, not one of you useless fucks has presented a single counter-point with OR WITHOUT evidence!"
Nice reading comprehension skills.
In fact, you fail at quoting in general because I didn't say any of that. It LOOKS like your brain malfunctioned due to rage while reading this sentence: "This leads me to believe you are only motivated by the butthurt you feel for being swindled into paying for this farce. "
Loser.
Nice reading comprehension skills.
In fact, you fail at quoting in general because I didn't say any of that. It LOOKS like your brain malfunctioned due to rage while reading this sentence: "This leads me to believe you are only motivated by the butthurt you feel for being swindled into paying for this farce. "
Loser.
@Syn - "also, i love how you complain about people attacking "people rather than their arguments", then you go on to call those people "useless fucks" and "losers"."
you want to respond to this or are you just going to keep calling me names?
you want to respond to this or are you just going to keep calling me names?
While this particular video is nearly 100% correct (common people with no game development background claiming that things are easy makes no sense. I also do not agree with the concept of an HD Collection being wrong.) Twin Perfect is notorious for being wrong, biased and in favor of only the originals, and deleting criticism.
They're selling you Silent Hill "fact" as if it's Snake Oil. A flashy video with good editing does not equate to good research, no bias, and wrong information.
I lost all respect for them once they told people not to buy the HD Collection prior to release because it was insulting to the series. Mind you, the game was not out yet. They then asked fans to donate money to them so that they could review it.
So, they tell people not to buy the HD Collection prior to release but ask for funds so that they won't have to pay? Sorry, but their series is well known in the Silent Hill community, the people who talk on forums daily, to have inaccuracies and nasty attitudes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN_VL22tjyo
They're selling you Silent Hill "fact" as if it's Snake Oil. A flashy video with good editing does not equate to good research, no bias, and wrong information.
I lost all respect for them once they told people not to buy the HD Collection prior to release because it was insulting to the series. Mind you, the game was not out yet. They then asked fans to donate money to them so that they could review it.
So, they tell people not to buy the HD Collection prior to release but ask for funds so that they won't have to pay? Sorry, but their series is well known in the Silent Hill community, the people who talk on forums daily, to have inaccuracies and nasty attitudes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN_VL22tjyo
@Bobby Cowling
"if you want i can provide specific examples here seeing as our script was only recently finished and video production has yet to begin."
Let the detailed list begin!
Anything that proved this HD Collection was little more than a hack job will be nothing short of miraculous.
"if you want i can provide specific examples here seeing as our script was only recently finished and video production has yet to begin."
Let the detailed list begin!
Anything that proved this HD Collection was little more than a hack job will be nothing short of miraculous.
@Scuffles, the argument is not about the HD Collection being perfectly fine for fans, Bobby is talking about Twin Perfect's history that is well known among fans that still immerse themselves in the community (forums and such).
The HD Collection is offensive on all counts to fans of the series and shouldn't have been this unfaithful, Twin Perfect is 100% right about that.
But that does not change their prior videos (Which have once been altered because someone they quoted/referenced made a public response) are steeped with inaccuracies on the series as a whole.
The HD Collection is offensive on all counts to fans of the series and shouldn't have been this unfaithful, Twin Perfect is 100% right about that.
But that does not change their prior videos (Which have once been altered because someone they quoted/referenced made a public response) are steeped with inaccuracies on the series as a whole.
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