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Plan on picking up both once they hit the bargain bin, maybe they'll be all patched up by then. I suspect I won't be waiting very long.
Just went ahead and go Silent Hill 3 for PS2.
Both it and Silent Hill 2 are...ok. Still don't get what all the praise for the early series is about especially Silent Hill 2. That one was just ehhh.
Now, Shattered Memories, LOVED that one. I feel like I've posted this somewhere before....
Both it and Silent Hill 2 are...ok. Still don't get what all the praise for the early series is about especially Silent Hill 2. That one was just ehhh.
Now, Shattered Memories, LOVED that one. I feel like I've posted this somewhere before....
@Fugly: You know with a $40,000 incentive to patch a game on a closed system like psn and Xbox Live, you'd think publishers would push more to have their games not buggy as all shit on launch.
I hope they patch the "Homeless" quest in Downpour, because suffice to say, a certain disappearing fishing rod had me gritting my teeth and crying for the loss of a 100g achievement.
Oh, and dose frame rate issues god damn
Oh, and dose frame rate issues god damn
The audio syncing is what really made the HD collection unplayable for me. The lag/frame-rate issues were bad enough, but when Heather shot the handgun for the first time the actual 'bang' didn't sound until a clear second or two after it should have. It's so embarrassing, and just shows how little work was put into the title. (PS3 version.)
No mention of the framerate drops in Downpour, I see. You know, the ones that go to literally NOTHING per second? I seriously thought the PS3 froze about five times.
Happy to see Downpour get its frame-rate patched. That game could get downright ABYSMAL at times when the action just went to a jerky stop.
Will it patch Silent Hill: Downpours enemies to be at least somewhat interesting or symbolic to anything??
Will it patch Silent Hill: Downpours enemies to be at least somewhat interesting or symbolic to anything?? I've seriously found far superior enemies in Half Life 1 mods.
Downpour had a busted quest for me (fishing pole for the homeless guy didn't show up). Also had issues with the slightest nudge in the direction of a transition area (ie climbing through windows) triggering it, even when I'd just triggered (go in and out the window).
On an unrelated note, maybe they can patch in a real name for the protagonist. And maybe patch the location of that vending machine on Normal because that shit is hidden.
On an unrelated note, maybe they can patch in a real name for the protagonist. And maybe patch the location of that vending machine on Normal because that shit is hidden.
Downpour chugged in certain areas and the Subway system was a broken mess. I missed a lot of side quests because the subway did not open up like it was supposed to, it was a pretty big issue when I googled it.
@AlexMorgaen
The rod is in different locations based on the difficulty. I couldn't find it, watched online videos and it was not there either, I was playing on hard and found it by where you spread the ashes.
@AlexMorgaen
The rod is in different locations based on the difficulty. I couldn't find it, watched online videos and it was not there either, I was playing on hard and found it by where you spread the ashes.
@Monekybeans
I'm pretty sure more love and dedication went into those Half Life 1 mods than Silent Hill Downpour. Half Life and Half Life 2 have some of the most amazing and extensive mods I've ever seen.
I actually saw the series in reverse, going Downpour, Silent Hill 2 on the HD collection, and then Silent Hill 1.
Downpour it's more close to Silent Hill 1 than 2 in too many ways. Most the environments are outdoors, the enemies are numerous and are not related to the character at all like demon dogs and flying demons and mole men, it was a cluster fuck of random scary enemies and scattered body parts and blood. With witches and demons and all that random shit. Mind you the drug trafficking aspect of 1 was cool albeit random, wish that came back in Downpour but what can you do.
Only during Silent Hill 2 did the series start to have symbolic monsters relating to the main characters which is pretty cool, but also in 2 you could run past much more enemies without taking any damage... most of the time, but there was so much fucking ammo in 2 you could just always 1 shot guys with the shotty, what a shame.
I'm pretty sure more love and dedication went into those Half Life 1 mods than Silent Hill Downpour. Half Life and Half Life 2 have some of the most amazing and extensive mods I've ever seen.
I actually saw the series in reverse, going Downpour, Silent Hill 2 on the HD collection, and then Silent Hill 1.
Downpour it's more close to Silent Hill 1 than 2 in too many ways. Most the environments are outdoors, the enemies are numerous and are not related to the character at all like demon dogs and flying demons and mole men, it was a cluster fuck of random scary enemies and scattered body parts and blood. With witches and demons and all that random shit. Mind you the drug trafficking aspect of 1 was cool albeit random, wish that came back in Downpour but what can you do.
Only during Silent Hill 2 did the series start to have symbolic monsters relating to the main characters which is pretty cool, but also in 2 you could run past much more enemies without taking any damage... most of the time, but there was so much fucking ammo in 2 you could just always 1 shot guys with the shotty, what a shame.
If Downpour's patch covers the momentary obscene framerate issues and ludicrous amount of auto-saving (or removes "auto-saving" messages when no such thing is occurring), then that'll pretty much cover all of its technical shortcomings. As much as I love that game, those frame issues are fucking absurd.
@fugly: Yeah it is, I can't remember where I heard the number from though. But here's a link to someone saying the same thing. Not the source though I originally heard it from. The source I remember hearing it from was also mentioning something about its the reason MS and Sony not making PSN and Live a closed system anymore for next gen. I'd take that part with a grain of salt though.
http://www.maddentips.com/forums/showthread.php?154924-How-Much-Does-It-Cost-A-Game-Dev-Put-Up-A-Patch
http://www.maddentips.com/forums/showthread.php?154924-How-Much-Does-It-Cost-A-Game-Dev-Put-Up-A-Patch
Rather than a patch for the HD collection they should offer to replace the CDs in their entirety for every costumer who bought the bundle. The games look so horrible I doubt a patch will solve it (not to mention they won't be applied if you happen to play the game in another console)
@fugly: I was looking for info on is Steam charges, found nothing concrete but this is from Tim Schfer.
"Those systems [Xbox Live and PSN] as great as they are, they're still closed," Schafer said. "You have to jump through a lot of hoops, even for important stuff like patching and supporting your game. Those are things we really want to do, but we can't do it on these systems. I mean, it costs $40,000 to put up a patch – we can't afford that! Open systems like Steam, that allow us to set our own prices, that's where it's at, and doing it completely alone like Minecraft. That's where people are going."
So Steam allows the devs to set their own prices? Anyone have anything more substantial?
"Those systems [Xbox Live and PSN] as great as they are, they're still closed," Schafer said. "You have to jump through a lot of hoops, even for important stuff like patching and supporting your game. Those are things we really want to do, but we can't do it on these systems. I mean, it costs $40,000 to put up a patch – we can't afford that! Open systems like Steam, that allow us to set our own prices, that's where it's at, and doing it completely alone like Minecraft. That's where people are going."
So Steam allows the devs to set their own prices? Anyone have anything more substantial?
Hopefully they really will fix the auto-saving in Downpour. Being thrown back to the start of a building and losing all progress made my balls blue. Get them to work or remove them completely.
O just said fuck it and bought silent hill 2 and 3 used for ps2, since I bought the ps3 metal gear 4 bundle years ago, which the ps3 was still backwards compatible. I recently played through silent hill 1 for the first time....i think it being pretty old just made it scarier, because you couldnt really tell what you were looking at as far as creatures go. I loved the fact that there was ZERO hand holding. there is no way in hell somebody would get the best ending without some sort of help from a guide. Games are just not like that any more.
Good. The worst bug on the HD collection (minus SH3's myriad collection of sound issues) is the massive slowdown everytime you earned (or would have earned an already acquired) achievement. It ruins the games, period.
I don't mind the rest of the artistic changes THAT much (yeah, it kind of sucks, but whatever) but at least the core technical issues are getting resolved.
But seriously, stop releasing games before they are finished. It's annoying.
And Downpour's framerate problems were so bad I actually quit playing and returned it. That and the game is completely not scary. Like, at all.
I don't mind the rest of the artistic changes THAT much (yeah, it kind of sucks, but whatever) but at least the core technical issues are getting resolved.
But seriously, stop releasing games before they are finished. It's annoying.
And Downpour's framerate problems were so bad I actually quit playing and returned it. That and the game is completely not scary. Like, at all.
I did have a lot of interest in the Silent Hill HD "Collection" (More like Double Pack...). It's amazing how the MGS HD Collection was so perfect and considered to be one of the best HD collection of games, yet the Silent Hill HD Collection, which is also made by Konami, is considered to be one of the worst.
I managed to play through SH2 on the dreaded collection and still kind of enjoyed it. The embarrasingly bad fog effects used do grate on my nerves, though, and the bit where James is rowing over to the Lakeview Hotel is a bad as everyone says, as in it looks unfinished. Also, the loss of the depth of field effects during the cutscenes had me scratching my head.
I can't understand why effects that were presumably easy to do on PS2 cannot be just as easily achieved on PS3/360. Is it laziness on the part of Hijinx, or were Konami happy to just rush it out?
Here's hoping the patch does something, at least...
I can't understand why effects that were presumably easy to do on PS2 cannot be just as easily achieved on PS3/360. Is it laziness on the part of Hijinx, or were Konami happy to just rush it out?
Here's hoping the patch does something, at least...
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