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Now you know how I felt when I googled Freespace 3 and this article came up.
i realise a few years back the term MMO meant dollar signs in eyes for a bunch of publishers, but why are we not over that now?
....You guys do realize that they already had mechwarrior MMOs before, right?
And all of them were good.
And all of them were good.
Yeah I think I'm quite upset but I'm not entirely sure why.
I'll probably quite happy playing this in multiplayer but that FREE TWO (????) PLAY bit worries down to the core. I tolerate F2P as it is but now it's touching a franchise I actually care about (Oh and I guess kinda Tribes as well) it's becoming a concern. I'd rather pay a single chunk for this than have F2P spoil what could otherwise me a pleasant experience.
I'll probably quite happy playing this in multiplayer but that FREE TWO (????) PLAY bit worries down to the core. I tolerate F2P as it is but now it's touching a franchise I actually care about (Oh and I guess kinda Tribes as well) it's becoming a concern. I'd rather pay a single chunk for this than have F2P spoil what could otherwise me a pleasant experience.
Holy fuck best idea EVER! Now they just need to make a Freespace MMO! Hopefully by the next 10 years every game will be an MMO, and there will be no such thing as offline games.
This is a damn shame. F2P garbage.. what's really pathetic is how he tries to sell it "this is the mechwarrior you know", and that we'll love it.. LOL. If you thought publishers didn't want to work with you before, wait until after you fail miserably with this.
@Mechman - Is that why I don't remember hearing about them? Because they were so good? And how successful could they have been, if there were multiple titles that never made news? See, when an MMO is good and becomes a success, people rant and rave about it, the company makes alot of money and it keeps going for years.
If there were multiple MMOs that no one gave a shit about, that tells me they were all failures.
If there were multiple MMOs that no one gave a shit about, that tells me they were all failures.
Battletech:EGA
Battletech: Solaris
Battletech: 3025
This will be the fourth battletech MMO. So yes, for some of us, this IS the mechwarrior we know.
Battletech: Solaris
Battletech: 3025
This will be the fourth battletech MMO. So yes, for some of us, this IS the mechwarrior we know.
I just recently watched an episode of Spartacus (from first season) where a character said something that is a very apropos response to this situation, "You kiss my cheek only to finger my ass."
My interest in this just dropped to zero.
My interest in this just dropped to zero.
@DasPooch
Because they came out more than a decade ago, and the last one was killed by EA when they were still being a corporate monster. Even with that, the two that did run were up and going for 9 years between them. That's pretty successful.
Because they came out more than a decade ago, and the last one was killed by EA when they were still being a corporate monster. Even with that, the two that did run were up and going for 9 years between them. That's pretty successful.
@Mechman - BWAAAHAHAHAA!!! Are you fucking kidding me? A few iterations of some POS game from back in 96-01? THAT is your idea of a "good MMO"?
Jesus.. if that's what you love, then I guess these asshats are going to be gods to you. >.>
Jesus.. if that's what you love, then I guess these asshats are going to be gods to you. >.>
Given that it was good enough that it ran for that long, was greatly enjoyed, and the community is still around, yes, I'd call that good.
I'm watching videos and reading up on this shit, and it's just embarassing. That last version didn't even make it to full production, it was a beta and then shut down. Yeah, wildly successful.
The Solaris version didn't even support grouping, which means people probably organized on forums in place of actual functionality. If this is what you call a good MMO, then there's no way these guys can fail.
The Solaris version didn't even support grouping, which means people probably organized on forums in place of actual functionality. If this is what you call a good MMO, then there's no way these guys can fail.
Back in the 90's, that technology hadn't been used yet. They ran on the AOL portal, which was how the grouping was run before the mid-2000s, and the last version had a rebuild, ran a beta which most of the people from the earlier games were playing, and then they got bought out by EA and shut down.
If people enjoyed the previous Battletech MMOs and are looking forward to this, more power to them I'd say! IF there wasn't a market for it, it wouldn't have made it to this stage. I don't see why this would be a bad MMO, I just prefer the singleplayer aspect of the past MechWarrior games myself.
Cool, I had no idea that you really enjoyed MechWarrior games so much. I was really into it back in the day. I started playing battletech rpg (haha nerd I know) and then MechWarrior 2 came out and I was hooked even more , it even pulled me away from SpyCraft and then MechWarrior 3 came out I was so stoked to get the sidewinder joystick and battle with my clan online " actedmeteor_IH (iron horde)" soooo many fond memories. For me the fun died about the same time people started racing/getting rid of their armor so they could use nothing but mg's for a fast kill. MechWarrior 4 was alright probably would've played it more but I could never afford a better voodoo card..
The free to play might be interesting :/
The free to play might be interesting :/
Hm, Mechwarrior MMMO huh? Too bad :( Although I wouldn't mind seeing Mech Commander made into a MMO type game, in the same vein as Shattered Galaxies. I'd totally play that.
Well at least Hawken is still in the pipelines, right?
The saturation of the f2p market it one of the greatest evils caused by the recession. Far worse than all the unemployment.
I started playing BattleTech back in 1984-1985, when I didn't even know WTF it was and I had more pimples than friends.
Some good games came along on and off from this IP, but seeing this just makes me want to forget all about it.
Weak.
Some good games came along on and off from this IP, but seeing this just makes me want to forget all about it.
Weak.
Never got into the Mechwarrior series too much. I'm guessing I may have missed some good times? Old school Armored Core was fun in a punch yourself in the nuts kinda way. And hey, we got Hawken to look forward to, right?
I'll take a cautious viewpoint of this as the F2P MMOs don't always have the greatest track record, but I can see potential in this IF they stay true to their word. However I'd still prefer a real release.
@DasPooch Not sure why you're belittling BT3025 so much, it was a pretty fun and solid beta for the time. Unfortunately 'other' issues got the best of it and we never saw a full release.
@DasPooch Not sure why you're belittling BT3025 so much, it was a pretty fun and solid beta for the time. Unfortunately 'other' issues got the best of it and we never saw a full release.
What? since when has anyone given a fuck about a mech warrior campaign. I'm a massive mech warrior nut and all I ever did was fight bots in massive waves or jump online and shoot people with 4 PPCs and 3 Autocannons lol.
I couldn't be more excited to play this game, its fucking MECH WARRIOR.
I couldn't be more excited to play this game, its fucking MECH WARRIOR.
Yeahhh... fuck. I'm with Fraser on this one. F2P is a nasty little habit more and more companies are picking up and it needs to die before it ends up becoming all we have.
ugh.....why...free to play...
seriously I wouldn't mind so badly if it was just an MMO...but f2p? that means they have no confidence in this.
The dream is (somewhat?) dead :(
/sad mechwarrior fan
we'll see how it goes.
seriously I wouldn't mind so badly if it was just an MMO...but f2p? that means they have no confidence in this.
The dream is (somewhat?) dead :(
/sad mechwarrior fan
we'll see how it goes.
Well at least we still have Mechwarrior: Living Legends going strong. It's still in beta, but they've been pushing out patches regularly, currently on version 0.5.2. A lot of battletech fans are seeing it as the last bastion in the Mechwarrior franchise. It's basically MW4 meets Battlefield, running on Cryengine.
Kind of a shameless plug, but for people who are wanting some mechwarrior action and have a PC with Crysis Wars installed, you can check it out here:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net
Kind of a shameless plug, but for people who are wanting some mechwarrior action and have a PC with Crysis Wars installed, you can check it out here:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net
@Gorescream
Actually, it means they're noticing successful trends. F2P is a functional model, more so than subscription, if built correctly. It's why so many MMOs are going that way (besides WoW, because it gets away with a subscription model ~and~ a micro-transaction market, because dollahdollahbillz).
While I'm hoping it will work, I'm skeptical, because the way MechWarrior games work leads me to suspect it'll be a Pay4Power situation. I loved 2/Mercenaries, and I hope not too much'll change, so I'll be watching with equal excitement and dread.
Actually, it means they're noticing successful trends. F2P is a functional model, more so than subscription, if built correctly. It's why so many MMOs are going that way (besides WoW, because it gets away with a subscription model ~and~ a micro-transaction market, because dollahdollahbillz).
While I'm hoping it will work, I'm skeptical, because the way MechWarrior games work leads me to suspect it'll be a Pay4Power situation. I loved 2/Mercenaries, and I hope not too much'll change, so I'll be watching with equal excitement and dread.
@Havoc Fang - Being a successful business model does not mean it will be a great game. WoW "gets away with it" because, like the other great MMOs before it, it requires a monthly payment from all players to use to maintain the game and add new features and content. You don't get that kind of cash with F2P, no matter how many micro-transactions you have in the short term. It's the fast food of the MMO universe.
@DasPooch I don't think you understand at all. F2P for most MMOs that aren't at the top of the industry (and lets face it, Piranha Games are a small studio) is FAR more profitable than P2P. And it doesn't preclude things like expansions either, as stuff like LOTRO have proven (they've had two full-sized expansions on par with what Blizz puts out at retail since going f2p). The market is changing and only the biggest games can get away with making the bar for entry $15 a month.
How soon we forget.
Some of the best Battletech titles were early MMOs. Mutiplayer Battletech: Solaris and Multiplayer Battletech 3025 are two of the strongest games in the series. This has the potential to be very good.
Some of the best Battletech titles were early MMOs. Mutiplayer Battletech: Solaris and Multiplayer Battletech 3025 are two of the strongest games in the series. This has the potential to be very good.
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