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Analysts make me laugh my head off sometimes. Outside of being professional guessers, they also some up with some ludicrous ideas, such as the guy who last month suggested that Sony would release a PlayStation 3 without Blu-ray. Unsurprisingly, Sony has countered this ridiculous claim by stating -- shock horror -- that Blu-ray compatible PS3s were here to stay.

"That would pretty much destroy the PS3's backbone, our games were built on Blu-ray," explained marketing manager Kim Nguyen. "Quote that: Blu-ray will always be part of PS3."

Of course, any idiot could tell that. Just look at the PSP model -- over four years of existence using a format that is not only slow, but compatible with nothing BUT the PSP, and Sony is still pushing UMDs to the moon, with reports heavily suggesting it'll be the format used for the PSP2. Yeah, Sony is pig-headed when it comes to format. Blu-ray is going nowhere. 

Oh, analysts.








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Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:44
Chronic Logic
HD-DVD, NEVAR FORGET!
BlackFreefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:46
BlackFreefall
PS3 without the Blue-Ray is like the Wii without Wiimote.
Mr Gilder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:48
Mr Gilder
Did this analyst not realize that the games were pressed on Blu-rays?
Clearly it'd be in Sony's interest to release a version of their console that'd ensure new buyers can't play a library that has amassed over the past few years.
Homework people. Do yours.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:48
Kraid
RE will always have racism, on Blu-ray discs.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:49
Sexualchocolate
He also said "Online gaming is like a First Amendment right" - Did you forget that bit?

I've officialy migrated from joystiq now, PS3fanboy merging into eksbawks-brain-washing-central has been removed from my favourites.

Fingers crossed this place can stay balanced....

oh yeah, no blu-ray PS3 - stupid analysis of the year goes to...
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:51
JustLikeBuck
Good.

BluRay rocks. Sure it's slower than a 360 DVD drive reading a single layer, but its speed will show once 360 devs are forced to use 2 layers, or more than one disk.

When you see some of the stuff that can be streamed off a bluray in real time in games like Uncharted, Killzone, even Lair as an early example of visual splendour, you wonder why other devs need to force installs at all.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:57
PappaDukes
@BlackFreefall - I think you meant to say that the PS3 without bluray is like the Wii without party games.
Timstuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:03
Timstuff
Makes sense to me. PS3 games are all on Blu-Ray disc, so what's the point of a PS3 with no BD drive? You'd essentially have a PS3 that cannot play games.
XrayZwei's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:08
XrayZwei
Oh yeah! I forgot you have to have a blu-ray to play all of the following:

Warhawk
Burnout Paradise
SOCOM
Wipeout
Gran Turismo
Siren
and all of that other crap on PSN

Good thing it has a blu-ray!
SephirothX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:13
SephirothX
PS3 games are made on blu ray discs....
CelicaCrazed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:19
CelicaCrazed
Unless Sony is taking out the Blu-ray to put in a massive harddrive since all their games will now be on PSN!! CONFIRMED!!

Haha yeah, I know that's not happening ;)

Sexualchocolate, welcome to the family!! Oh but just so you know, we have turned bias into a science over here. I'm pretty sure we're going to be offering online courses on bias in the fall as well!! :P
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:19
Nicojay2
A PS3 with no Blu-Ray.

That's okay there's still PS1 games and PSN games to play.
PS2 games too if you're lucky enough to have bagged a 60Gig PS3 with no Blu-Ray.
Analysts that make obvious statements are bad enough. Analysts that don't know jack and make bollocks up are taking the biscuit (time and money).
DF's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:25
DF
*obligatory "this article is BIAS" comment*

Not to say "no surprise" since I seem to be saying that everywhere lately for some reason...can you imagine how horrible it would be if this turned out to be true?

Dear Sony,

I recently purchased your new-model PlayStation 3 and a number of games to go with it. Now, I understand that one places the disc inside of the system in order to play it, but for the life of me, I cannot find anything to insert the disc with, or a place to do so on the console itself. There is also no way to get the data from the disc onto the spacious hard drive contained within the console either. What am I able to do with this now?

Your indentured servant,
Doomsday Forte

...

Dear Doomsday,

Enjoy your $700 paperweight. :D

Love,
Sony
parrothead's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:38
parrothead
no captain obvious needed on this one
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:18
mix
Holy cow, this came outa like left field and cleared that fog up pretty good.....NOT.
hitnrun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:33
hitnrun
Man, I remember that guy. What the hell was he thinking?

The Blu-Ray drive is necessary to play all PS3 games. Did he mean take out the movie reader functionality? What, a driver and a bit of firmware that probably costs Sony $10 or less?

We all know what the guy was really saying: "I know absolutely nothing about the PS3, videogames, or electronics in general. I think PS3 games are made on special "game discs" that require a reader not based on either Blu-Ray or DVD."
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 13:09
Holyetheline
wtf is going on here?
Rational Animal's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 13:34
Rational Animal
"Outside of being professional guessers..."

This statement is laughably ignorant.
DinnertimeNinja's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 14:12
DinnertimeNinja
"This statement is laughably ignorant."

Laughable, yes, but not ignorant.

Do you have any idea how many "analysts" there are? In general, only the ones that guess right more than others get the spotlight and even THOSE people say completely ridiculous things like the statement this article is about.

It makes absolutely zero sense for the PS3 to drop Blu-Ray and further segregate their demographic. Old games would have to be re-pressed, new games would have to be pressed in two formats and designed around two different data-read speeds, and new dedicated shelf space would have to be made in stores for the "DVD Version" of games. None of this will happen.

An educated guess is still just a guess.
XrayZwei's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 14:52
XrayZwei
But look at UMD! I know Jim ends on this note but come on. The PSP section at the local big box stores is a quarter of the size it was six months ago, and the rumors are flying that the next iteration of PSP (whether a reboot, or entirely new system) isn't going to include UMD drives. Good. Retailers don't support UMD, who cares if Sony does? I've got a sizable enough memory stick in my PSP to hold the games I play on UMD.

Blu-ray adoption for movies isn't as high as it was expected to be, and honestly I would buy many more games over broadband instead if I had the chance. Not every game that comes out on Blu is stuffed to the full 25/50 gigs on the disc, and many of them are coded redundantly to account for the PS3's slower read speed. Anecdotely I'm looking at Best Buy, blu-ray for movies hasn't expanded that much. No movies are exclusive to the format. Amazon is cutting blu-ray prices to move stock: 300 titles this week are half-off. I mean when DVD hit two years stride it was almost impossible to buy something new on VHS.

And look at 360. Some of the same games come out for a system that has a DVD drive, admittedly with compression, but still are comparable. I'm just going to say: This is not as a pie in the sky idea as some make it out to be. Maybe PS3 will be the Phantom! Lapboards for everybody!
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 15:37
Cynical Gamer
They forgot to mention future Playstations will not sport backwards compatibility!
Rational Animal's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 16:23
Rational Animal
@DinnertimeNinja: I hear ya. There are plenty of people who take on the moniker of "analyst" and are likely unqualified to do so. I'm just saying, the numbers that are published by legit analysts aren't simply pulled out of thin air and are much more than just educated guesses.

As with any profession, there are those who are better at their jobs than others, but I hear a lot of people on this site (including, somewhat surprisingly, a number of the editors) that indiscriminately bash analysts as a group whenever one individual makes an unlikely and/or absurd claim.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 16:28
Jim Sterling
"This statement is laughably ignorant."

First of all, you have to forgive my tendency to write things intended to amuse without clarifying their intention. The "laughable" part was intended, but it isn't without truth. At least as far as videogame analysts are concerned, there is a high tendency to pull shit out of their arse. Even the most well known game analyst, Michael Pachter, has come up with some crazy and/or obvious shit. This is why I call them professional guessers.

I personally find it amusing that people can be paid simply to say what they think might happen in the future. I say that without complete contempt either, since I also think it's amusing that people get paid to play videogames and then tell other people what they think of videogames. Hey, that's what I do!

Of course, analysts would have a better rep if it wasn't so easy for any old jackass to make wild claims and then say "hey lookame I'mma analystz."
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 22:00
Darren Nakamura
That analyst should be fired. A PS3 without Blu-ray would NOT PLAY ANY CURRENT PS3 GAMES.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2009 01:11
Aurain
Seriously.

How do people like that have jobs?
What next?

"Lance Armstrong to ride Tour de France on Bike with no Wheels"
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