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Shocker: SSX has an online pass photo

The new SSX looks pretty damn fantastic, of that there is no denying. Still, Electronic Arts once again doesn't think it's good enough to sell new copies on its own merit, and hopes to force your hand with its favorite skeezy business tactic -- the online pass. 

Although not officially announced, videos of the game in action (such as the lengthy footage on Giant Bomb) reveals the pass feature sitting comfortably at the bottom of SSX's main menu. So, used gamers will need to pay the piper, and new customers will have their time wasted with an unnecessary barrier between themselves and the features they paid for. 

This is par for the course with EA, a publisher so in love with online passes that it's started putting them in single player games. Once again, however, I stress that I will continue to post online pass inclusions as news items, because I refuse to let this become banal and acceptable.

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Blake Stone's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:02
Blake Stone
#firstworldproblem
BkV's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:03
BkV
Is that the dog from.....Windows XP in that Boris Usericon¿
doubleA329's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:07
doubleA329
This isn't news anymore. Just report when they don't include one, Jim.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:09
Jim Sterling
#sayingfirstworldproblemstoppedbeingcleverroughlyfiveminutesafteritwasfirstsaidbysomejackass
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:10
The Silent Protagonist
Well we all knew it was coming. It's a shame, but then, EA Big died and this isnt by them anyway. I had no plans for it either way, even though I loved the first three SSX games.

Also, in before Killas2 says we're all wrong for hating the online pass or SephirorhX just argues they're good but implemented poorly. They're the Stealths of the subject.

I refuse to buy games with online passes new or used. They've had more than enough time to prove themselves and I've yet to see any value added by them. There are plenty of other games I can play that don't waste my time like this.
SirNinjaFace's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:11
SirNinjaFace
One minor step for stupidkind!
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:11
Football Religion
"new customers will have their time wasted with an unnecessary barrier between themselves and the features they paid for."

Come on, that's not a real complaint unless there's something wrong with your code or something out of the ordinary happens.
Stumblebee's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:14
Stumblebee
These posts = Preaching to the choir..
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:16
The Silent Protagonist
@Football Religion - Something you shouldn't have to do, no matter what it is, ranks as an inconvienience. If you bought the game new, then why must you prove it to the people you bought it from. Go on, explain it.
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:18
Cahuatijo
Again with the "it's not good enough to sell new copies on its own merit" argument. I'm sorry but I don't see that at all, unless you're using a heavy dose of snark. It's more like "we gotta make up that used-game money somehow and penalize those thick lumps who buy used."
Mr mew's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:18
Mr mew
A new drinking game: Down a shot every time Jim has to say "Online Pass".
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:21
JamnOnTheOne
It's cool - I'll take an Online Pass system any day of the week instead of having to use Steam.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:22
Gorescream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vVF-Hvykg
tekbunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:24
tekbunny
@cahuatijo

... um, that's exactly what its like.

unless you are one of those thick lumps who actually believe the used market hurts new games rather than helps it.

@TSP

win.
Junaii's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:24
Junaii
Damn, I really wanted this but Im kinda resigned to not buying EA games anymore cause of the crap that go's with it. I miss the days of cartridges, when games where just fun and non political.

Jim's spot on but unfortunately it will still sell loads and EA will think online passes = success.

Im off to dig out my politically neutral N64.
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:24
Football Religion
@Silent Well, I agree with online passes. I don't like used games because they don't support the developers. Putting in a pass is a non-issue... it's like having to use the case in MGS.
DrRockso87's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:25
DrRockso87
Glad I don't purchase many EA games. I'm sure we'll hear about an online pass for Syndicate soon as well.
Blake Stone's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:27
Blake Stone
Also, Jim, you forgot to call EA "evil".

You're making a much bigger deal out of this than it actually is. It's kind of sad, really.
Junaii's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:28
Junaii
Does the Origin version come with an online pass? Surely no need for digital downloads?
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:28
Cahuatijo
@tekbunny - what I said was about the publishers looking to recoup their "lost" money from used game sales and penalizing those who buy used.
If you believe that online passes make a game not worth buying new, then that's a matter of opinion you're more than entitled to as a consumer.
I just don't think that's the publishers' opinion; they know the game will be bought used, it's inevitable, they just want some of that revenue "back".
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:30
Jim Sterling
Blake Stone, you're making a much bigger deal out of me disliking online passes than it is. How sad of you to dare complain about something you disagree with!
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:31
timtheterrible
Is it terrible that I don't have any qualms with these measures?
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:33
Chris Carter
@Football
"it's like having to use the case in MGS."

I don't agree with that. That's more like a Kojima style Easter Egg/homage to 90s PC games, with the cryptographic DRM manuals. You could just call your friend/go to the video store and find out Meryl's codec number.

My main issue with online passes is the trouble it causes families/friends. Anyone who has a brother/sister/parent who games with them on a separate profile needs to buy an online pass if the game is a hand-me-down.

It's not a young child's fault that a parent picked them up a used game on a whim, and they need to buy two passes for $10 each for them and their sibling -- there are much better ways of treating your customers.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:34
Jim Sterling
Football Religion:

It absolutely is a real complaint. Even a second of wasted time is unacceptable, especially as other entertainment mediums strive to provide instant access to content. The inability to move from one game mode to another without putting codes in is blatant disrespect to a customer's time.
UncleReg's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:35
UncleReg
What's "kind of sad" is how some people seemingly enjoy getting shafter by publishers.
Icyfrodo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:35
Icyfrodo
Online Passes are pretty dumb, no other used market destroy part of the product just because it's used, and all in all, used games support developers in ther own way, gamers who can't buy new games will be able to spread the word abou the game and so on, Online Passes just wastes time, give publishers even more money.
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:36
Football Religion
@Chris

Yep, that sucks. It's not a perfect solution yet. I'll be happy to get rid it once used games stop being so widely spread too.
caraleo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:36
caraleo
EA deserves to die and the only franchise that I would miss would be dead space

keep on reporting these Jim, these fuckers won't force online passes into a "regular practice" as long as there's better publishers out there
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:36
Football Religion
@Not So Slim Jim Sterling

I forgot what you look like. I guess it is a real concern for you... must take a lot of effort.
Icyfrodo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:38
Icyfrodo
On another note, I can already see pedophiles in vans with a "Free DLC" painted outside in the some years
scouserboots's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:40
scouserboots
I had a conversation with someone at work about online passes. This guy, although he plays games, he ain't a dedicated gamer, just a casual gamer once a few months or so. But he was very pissed with the online pass happenings, seeing as he only buys used games. I never really seen that point of view before where online passes could kill a casual gamer's enjoyment of gaming. The video game industry is biting the hand that feeds it, they are trying to change to culture of gaming into something most gamer's hate, conformity. Most gamer's play to escape the aspects of this life, but to thrust corporate greed onto gamer's will eventually lead to the collapse of the empire they built.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:40
mistic
Online passes are EVIL.

I've stopped buying NFS-games for Consoles ( switched to PC where they DON't have it ), was doubting about SSX, never really liked their style but since Amped seems dead in the water, I started doubting, doubt has now been removed!

No SSX!
SunRa73's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:42
SunRa73
@Football Religion:

How sad that you invalidate any credible argument you make by making a childish joke about someones appearance.
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:44
Football Religion
@SunRa73

Yes, calling someone fat makes the rest of what I say wrong.

I guess the scientific research made by Nazis is wrong because they were racist? I guess a pedophile mathematician can't be right because they are a pedophile?
SunRa73's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:45
SunRa73
If there's one big plus to online passes, it's that I've been motivated to search out smaller, independent games that I may have missed out on.

So thanks for that publishers!
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:45
The Silent Protagonist
@Football - can you prove with certainty that buying new supports developers.

Because buying new CDs didn't support musicians for shit.
Going to see the movie in a theater didn't gaurantee the writers and directors a future with the film studio.

So how does buying new games support developers?

It took iTunes to get the music industry to grudgingly change its tune. Before that they were doing everything from copy-protecting CDs and waging wars on filesharing to keep people from enjoying music they way they wanted to. Or was it to fight the used CD market, because they clearly didn't succeed in stopping that piracy thing they were sobbing about.

Now musicians can release music independently of big labels. This is the new world we live in and EA, Sony and others like them are trying everything they can to keep you loyal to the outdated ploy of "supporting the artist." The developer is paid, their job is done - all EA wants is to ensure max profits on the IP and tell you how to buy your game.

The developer isn't even a factor here.
SunRa73's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:46
SunRa73
@Football

No, it just makes you look childish when people give you a respectable argument and you reply with "LOL you're fat." You may have a good point, but it's lost in your immaturity.
Jinxstar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:47
Jinxstar
"especially as other entertainment mediums strive to provide instant access to content."

So are you saying that when you buy a blu ray you expect there to be no previews for other movies and if there is your gonna write a blog about it?And when you can't skip them the movie industry has performed some kind of atrocity? Or Commercials on TV. Heck even comics are full of commercials and when I flip a page to find a 2 page add and they just wasted 3 second of my reading time because I have to flip the page again I should be livid?

They aren't going away. I for one buy games new unless they are no longer being sold new (i.e. Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 I recently bought). I know that in supporting the Dev's I have to support eh crotchety old men who refuse to change with the times and horde I.P.'s... I know all these things but what else am I gonna do? Boycott anything with an online pass? Heck I have boycotted COD the past 2 years and you know what? Activision prints money with it. SSX actually seems tohave a chance at not hitting a huge audience. Should I not support them now? To see games I want on the market because some crappy executive is putting in a pass? It's not like the dev's in Montreal(Or is it Vancouver. I forget) are sitting there praying it has an online pass... I know no better way to support their work then to buy the game new...
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:48
Football Religion
@Silent

Nope, not even sure how I'd begin to try and prove that without access to their books. I don't think it's a big stretch that saying buying new helps them out more than buying used though... so yeah, I'm against buying used.
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:49
Football Religion
@SunRay

Too bad if you can't see past that.

Like I said, the 30 seconds involved in putting in a code is a non-issue.

Anyway, I've got things to do. I'm out.
Epic-Kx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:55
Epic-Kx
....*sigh* still buying the game.
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:55
LittleBigD
If you're dumb enough to pay $50+ for a used game then you're dumb enough to pay another $10 for an online pass.
Fhaze's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:57
Fhaze
Another reason not to buy games the day they come out. I will buy this in 6 months when the price is under $30. There is no incentive for me to purchase ANY game day one anymore. Gears of War 3 and their money grabbing tactics made sure of that.
fortiori's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 08:59
fortiori
I don't buy or play computer games because I actually demand that i own the product i pay for. The games i do buy are for collecting as much as they are for playing and I refuse to put money down on anything that has an online pass or anything similar because it takes value away from my collection. The more games that have them, the less games i will buy and the less money the poor,poor developers will get from me. Gotta love mathematics. (I buy a ton of games and they are new unless they are out of print.)

Keep up the good work Jim.
TheLupineOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:04
TheLupineOne
Nice, Jim Sterling took my tip-off. Also, virtual currency purchasable with real monies! Bet it has on-disc DLC too. Stay classy, EA. Stay classy.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:04
Sexualchocolate
"Jim Sterling
Football Religion:

It absolutely is a real complaint. Even a second of wasted time is unacceptable, especially as other entertainment mediums strive to provide instant access to content. The inability to move from one game mode to another without putting codes in is blatant disrespect to a customer's time."

This is exactly how I feel about getting games on multiple DVD's in an age where there are other options.

- Being a little pedantic there, but i seriously find multiple discs a massive pain in the arse.

Also how I feel about online codes - i tend to buy new generally, BUT it pains me to put in a code.

Either: you're on the PS3 and it's one of "those" games that makes you quit right out. - or - it's on the 360 and it's a fucking huge code that takes too long to enter.

In other news got Tiger Woods 12 pre-owned at the weekend.....


...the code hadn't been used! WIN!
H3xidecimal's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:06
H3xidecimal
Fuck. Now I have to break my rule of not buying games that have that stupid pass. I really want to play the new SSX.
timtheterrible's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:06
timtheterrible
@ Football

"Yes, calling someone fat makes the rest of what I say wrong.

I guess the scientific research made by Nazis is wrong because they were racist? I guess a pedophile mathematician can't be right because they are a pedophile?"

I love how you unwittingly compare yourself to Nazis and pedos there.
salamagogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:07
salamagogo
That-SSuX
hushlorentz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2012 09:08
hushlorentz
I can't speak for the 1st party developers, but I've worked with a few 3rd party devs and we received payments when the initial contract was signed, after various milestones and when we submitted the final binary.

I'm sure that's not news for anyone here, but there's a slim chance any developers are seeing any money from these online passes. I'd hazard a guess, buying an online passes supports EA and no one else.
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