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BioWare does not release games. It releases giant, story-driven storefronts from which it can sell downloadable content. With that in mind, it should come as a shock to nobody that the studio is planning even more downloadable content for Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, based on fan reception. 

"We are seeing a good response to the DLC for ME2 and Dragon Age," says BioWare boss Ray Muzyka. "The fans like it and we have more in development and the different teams for DLC and the franchise are working together moving back and forth."

If BioWare loves downloadable content so much, why doesn't it MARRY downloadable content? Yeah!

BioWare: More DLC in development for Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age [VG247]








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xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:03
xaliqen
As a huge fan of the Fallout 3 DLC, I've been unimpressed with Bioware and EA's efforts in this area so far. I'm certainly going to keep an open mind for this upcoming content, though.
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:08
Tubatic
More free guns, hovertanks and expansions, less Returning to ostagar and pinnacle stations :(
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:09
Xzyliac
@xaliqen
I'm confused. What does Fallout 3 have to do with anything? Did I miss a joke in there somewhere?
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:10
sickNasty
as long as the smaller downloads stay free, i'll be happy.
coldalarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:12
coldalarm
"BioWare does not release games. It releases giant, story-driven storefronts from which it can sell downloadable content. With that in mind, it should come as a shock to nobody that the studio is planning even more downloadable content for Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, based on fan reception. "
I call BS.
Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age (along with NWN) are perfectly playable, complete games without DLC. Their DLC is also sublime in its implementation for the most part, even if the content is a little disappointing it still feels "right".
GodofWar86's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:13
GodofWar86
I'm pretty excited about Dragon Age: Awakening simply because I've been waiting for a proper expansion for a while from Bioware. While I certainly appreciate that Bioware are giving us scraps of content here and there and new weapons to play with I wish they would do proper full expansions perhaps half the length of the game itself.

I'm hoping they do something similar to Awakening at least twice more for Dragon Age and also for Mass Effect 2.
Pushtrak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:14
Pushtrak
Seeing how much grief people gave them on the forums about how little DLC arrived for Mass Effect, I think there are quite a lot of people who are happy to see such an amount of DLC.

Whatever a developer does these days, they'll get their fill of whiners.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:15
pokota
The fans like DLC when it works. Dragon Age DLC has been a nightmare thus far. Months after release and my Stone Prisoner DLC still isn't working, depite three tickets with customer support. One of those tickets didn't get a response for 12 days, even though it says "expect a response in 24 hours", and the other one got a response of "we can't help with game play issues, try asking other members on the forums". I broke an empty DVD case over that one.

When you buy DLC from Bioware, you're taking a risk that it might not work, and there is a good chance you'll be on your own trying to fix it. Take a look at the Dragon Age forums to see all the game-breaking problems people have had. Bioware has lost any faith or confidence I ever had in them.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:16
Occams electric toothbrush
While I like DLC I don't like the Cerberus Network "you must have this to enjoy anything else" model.

I also hate having to have a damn EA account that I will never, ever use other than for the DLC.

Also, fuck clowns.
Br0th3rGr1mm's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:17
Br0th3rGr1mm
"I'm confused. What does Fallout 3 have to do with anything? Did I miss a joke in there somewhere?"

I think the comment was to commend Fallout 3 for how it handled DLC. To be honest, Bioware completely screwed the pooch with ME1.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:17
Smo5000
@pokota

wow, didnt know people had game-breaking problems like that, that license agreement always gets you
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:18
xaliqen
@Xzyliac -- Fallout 3 is a good example of a game with solid post-release DLC. My point was that, in contrast, I've been underwhelmed with EA and Bioware's DLC offerings for their games. In my opinion, Bethesda set the bar pretty high for DLC in RPGs, and it's going to be difficult for Bioware to reach a similar level of quality in their DLC offerings.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:24
The Silent Protagonist
Fans like needless hoops to jump through to obtain free content that should have been in the fucking game anyway? Really?

I know EA puts Bioware up to that shit, because EA fears consumer choice between new and used. Its nothing but treating legit customers like crooks. If that's how EA wants to handle the content form the games they publish, fuck their "free" DLC.

I'll do what they don't want me to do - buy used, but the expansion used and they'll never see a dime. Because apparently I have to jump through hoops to buy new and get what I paid for. Fuck that.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:30
Xzyliac
@xaliqen
Oh! Okay.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:32
Chibi_Zero
xaliqen: While Bethesda did a pretty good job with the DLC for Fallout 3 I wouldn't say they raised the bar.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:34
The Silent Protagonist
Bethesda had a better plan, but the quality of the "expansions" were still typical Bethesda content released in beta test form. I swear Bethesda games see more actual fixes from the user base than the creators themselves.
slayer the player's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:37
slayer the player
Wow still alot of cerberus network hate huh? Entering an in game code is one hell of a hoop. I bet you don't buy Microsoft points cards either, cause you have to enter a code. And putting your credit card info on your xbox is just like entering a code to. I guess if you can't enter codes or get banana dollars you realy don't have to worry about dlc. However I did have to enter codes on my computer to get my preorder and collectors edition items, and that was some hoop that also got me those things on pc should I ever play ME2 on windows.
Robert's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:41
Robert
Between Rock Band and ME1's Bringing Down the Sky, I've had a very pleasant experience with DLC. The free DLC characters for DOA and ME2 have also been very appreciated.
DUGDAWG's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:42
DUGDAWG
I dunno, I think the Cerberus network is a great idea, because it rewards players who buy the game new with free content, and it provides the developers a means to profit from used game sales, which in turn encourages them to support their games with more downloadable content.
xaliqen's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:43
xaliqen
@Chibi_Zero -- I said 'Bethesda set the bar pretty high for DLC content in RPGs.' I was including previous Bethesda games in my thoughts here. There's probably something to be said for them being good at the whole expansion thing partially because they've been doing it longer than most developers.

@The Silent Protagonist -- I've run into a few bugs in Bethesda's recent games, but I honestly can't name a single open-world RPG that doesn't have significant bugs at the time of release. It's just the nature of the thing. For the record, my first play-through of Fallout 3 shortly after its release didn't yield any glitches I felt significantly impacted my enjoyment of the game. That's just my opinion, though.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:44
The Silent Protagonist
@slayer - content distribution are what Xbox Live, PSN and Steam are for. Why do I have to go through EA, too.

Its not just that little hoop, though, its the fact they release a game at full price incomplete for fear of consumer choice. This is like the DRM thing, except if I'm a bad person for buying used and you're gonna punish me for that, they why should should I rise to your standard.

I don't do business with people that treat me like a suspect.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:45
pokota
Registering on the EA "social network", or whatever, was also another drag. It's absolutely useless and a waste of customer time. Games for Windows LIVE for Fallout 3 was just as bad, if not worse, and the only DLC that was really worth the effort was Broken Steel. The hoops they make you jump through are often not worth the effort, especially when the DLC is underwhelming.
slayer the player's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 09:55
slayer the player
@Silent
Yeah the EA/Bioware account is a little annoying but its also fairly simple if not very straight forward. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it created an account for me when i registered Stone Prisoner and Blood Dragon Armor through the game on my Xbox. The only thing I ever had to use it for was The colector and preorder items as well as the Dr. Pepper codes. But just one question, if dragon Age and ME2 are not complete games what is? I mean is Fallout 3 not a complete game but the GOTY edition is?
UltorOscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:03
UltorOscariot
@The Silent Protagonist

Mass Effect 2? An incomplete game? Bullshit. That comment alone pretty much disqualifies anything you have to say as informed.

Tell that to the publications that reviewed it well before any of it was available, and still made it one of the most acclaimed games in recent memory. Even my first play-through was finished well before the most of it was even out, and I can declare that the game is complete without Zaeed, who was a total throw away character.

If a publisher decides to reward it's patrons with free stuff, and literally all you have to do is enter a single code once, I don't have an issue with it.

And the fact that you think it's some huge burden makes you sound like a ranting, unreasonable twat.

People can still choose to buy used games, and they will. Publishers are just finally catching on and adding incentives to that decision.
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:26
akathatoneguy
A lot of Negative Nancies on this thread, mmm-hmm.

No one is making you buy anything, and the game was quite complete without the DLC if you prefer not to get it. If you think buying used and saving a whopping $5 at GameStop is worth missing out on stuff, it's your choice. Don't be mad at a company for actually wanting to see money for each game they sell.
tenz's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:27
tenz
I think the cerberus network makes sense, bioware need to make a profit and if you buy the game used, bioware doesn't see any profit; the gamestops, gamecrazy, and other companies do. With the network if ppl get it used bioware can still get some profit from the dlc. Ppl who complain about the logic behind it don't get the big picture that the used games market takes a bite out of bioware and they gotta put food on the table.
NIGH's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:34
NIGH
I would marry dlc if dlc was about 400 gamerpoints
TheGlue29's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 10:49
TheGlue29
I hate Bioware. It's easier to find a new chick and get laid by her than it is to get people to tell you what you need them to tell you in order to proceed in their games.

They single handedly ruined Star Wars games with that sham of a game, KOTOR.
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:02
Occams electric toothbrush
@TheGlue29:

4/10 for trolling

My frustration lies in the fact I was being forced to create an EA account for no apparent reason other than to be able to get DLC. It seems unnecessary and it annoys me. I won't use it to socialize. I won't check for the latest updates, blah blah blah. It's just another step to getting DLC when downloading stuff from Xbox Live was working just fine for me.

Though on the grand scale of brilliant but dick moves, making the DLC you need to get all the other DLC either come with a new copy of the game or buy it on xbox live is up there. It's a dick move to me, but I see why they did it.
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:38
Thulsa Dooom
Good lawd some of you are insufferable. Fallout 3 had decent at best DLC. All of those were expensive and some were riddled with bugs.

It takes less than a minute to set up an EA account, stop being lazy.

Zaeed haters can eat it. His loyalty mission had one of the best endings of all. *grizzled Brit accent* "Fry you sonovabitch"

@pokota I also had trouble with DA DLC. Check the Bioware msgboards for a huge sticky thread for a possible fix if you haven't already. Are you playing on PC or 360? For the PC, the DAUpdater wasn't locating the correct folder, had to switch it around and then Shale was punching Blood Mages all night long.
PanchoVillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 11:55
PanchoVillian
augh, sorry for that empty comment.

@Free DLC Naysayers

I hear a lot of people claiming that registering with EA was a waste of time, How long did it really take you, for me it was about 3-5 minutes. Sure in internet ADHD time that may seem like forever, but considering it's free DLC I couldn't complain. Ok maybe its not entirely free, but nothing is ever free. Plus you do it for one EA game, you at least know you wont have to do it again.

And what about the Dr.Pepper DLC? I thought the recon hood was awesome. It made me look like a homicidal power ranger.

At least when you buy the game new, or purchase the Cerberus network your giving a bit back to a developer that deserves it for an awesome game. Sure I agree that the paid DLC better be held to better standards. But considering how Bioware can take criticism and build upon it(ME1 compared to ME2) I think they're deserving of another chance. Firewalker's looking to be good, and I don't think I'll mind a bit for paying for it.

@Jim

Just to clear this up for me, have you played/finished ME2 yet?
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:10
Occams electric toothbrush
Its not the amount of time it took to register that bothers me. It's the fact that I had to at all bothers me. It feels like EA is trying to force me to interact with their company and brands more than I want to or am willing to.

I'm happy to buy the dlc. I think some of its great and it adds on to a truly great game. Just don't force me to set up an account on a website I have no intention of visiting ever just and add another step to downloading the dlc.
Thulsa Dooom's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 12:15
Thulsa Dooom
Firewalker is FREE! It's the new character, Kasumi (Bioware's name creativity must be sapped) and mission(s?) that will require payment.
Josh Craig's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 16:41
Josh Craig
If you play other EA games then no EA registration, i already from the first bad company.
Rawand Dahoky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2010 18:50
Rawand Dahoky
wow, did a 12year old write this article? seriously.
Holiday's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/13/2010 23:58
Holiday
You could have a separate back-story DLC mission for each of Shepard's new teammates, well...Except for Grunt of course. I'd love to play as Jack post Cerberus escape or Thane doing his whole Zen assassin thing.
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