This blog was great and it makes me want to play the game! Fun fact: I've never played a game made by this man. :(
Again, great blog, and sorry for the fist comment.
You should really give it a go. At the very least give it a rent. It's made all the impressive when you consider it's a coming from a Japanese developer. You can really tell they respect and have a genuine love for Mexican culture.
I really loved Shadows of the Damned and this blog really put some things into perspective. Time for my second run-through.
...I also may or may not want this blog inside me, but I'll leave that ambiguous.
I'm glad I could give you a new perspective on things.
And I will gladly put this blog inside of you ;)
@Venus
Dom Santiago (gears of war 1,2 and 3) say hello. Again.
As a nerdy point of interest though, I know of at least one game that featured a latino protagonist before SOTD. Just Cause 2 stars Rico Rodriguez as he blows up most of a south american island state on the behalf of the CIA.
I never really played it but my brother is a fan. When I made the connection I thought it was a interesting and risky story telling device, having a identifiably latino character play the strong arm of the US government against a south american country.
When I asked my bro about this however, he just laughed. His eyes danced with mirth and he told me the game was more about having fistfights on the warheads top of speeding missles and grapple hooking security offers to the backs of passing trucks than any kind of political or social message. As far as I know his name, the catholic style cross necklace he wears and the occasional use of the word "amigo" is about as far as they go with it.
@Wrenchfarm: Actually, in Just Cause 2 you're blowing up most of a south Asian island state. The first game had more of what you're on about, though.
Other than that though, this was an excellent blog. Congrats on the front page!
As a Mexican, I feel like I owe it to them to give this a try. Awesome blog and congrats on the front page!
Talk about contradicting yourself, not only you spoiled the death of a key character but the ending itself, how is that avoiding major story spoilers? If those weren't major i don't know what is. I'm kind of annoyed because i was dumb enough to continue after this very first paragraph. When will i learn!
To the people saying I spoiled the ending, where did I say Garcia dies? Or Paula for that matter? Or even Fleming the Lord of the Demons? Everything is not as it seems ;)
@Bakewell and @PhilK3nS3bb3n
I have to admit to not playing Gears of War, but is Dom ever presented as Mexican? Does he have an accent? Does he speak Spanish? Or is he just a brown dude with a latino name. I feel like most of the titles you guys list as having latino-leads were just dudes colored brown with spanish sounding names in an attempt to make their games ethnic.
I could be wrong since I haven't played most of those games, but Suda51 shows a genuine interest in Mexican culture with this title, and that's not something you expect from a Japanese developer.
I will say that I know enough of the Gears story to know that Dom's focus is finding his wife Maria. There's probably a good amount of machismo action going on there, but it wouldn't feel authentic considering the setting of Gears.
But anyway, really nice blog but I only skipped through it as I haven't finished the game yet. Will read when I finish the game, however! Just hit ACT 3. I LOVE it so far. Everything. Even the gameplay. I think the gameplay's pretty good.
Well I never said it was beautiful. But it is a fairly accurate representation of a Mexican man. Granted, globalization has started to change ideals in Mexico and Central and South America, but machismo is a deeply rooted attitude that won't be going away anytime soon.
As for the Duke Nukem comparison, Garcia's love for Paula comes from the fact that he is the only man alive who can protect her. His love and protection of her fuels his own machismo attitude. That's a far cry from Duke's utter disrespect towards women.
And your analysis of culture is quite depressing. Culture is all around us. It's largely what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom (although there is some debate over whether chimps have developed culture). If you think you're devoid of culture than you are sorely mistaken.
- The fight against George takes place in a Mercado during Day of the Dead festivities
- Chapter 2 is to some degree a representation of Xocihimilco's Isla de las Muñecas
- The sidescrolling levels also look a lot like the art of Jose Guadalupe Posadas
Looks like Suda51 enjoyed a trip to my country, hope when they make a sequel they fix a little of Garcia's speech (It's "cabrones", and Mexican's dont say "cojones" but "huevos", for... ehrm, testicular fortitude).
I get what you're saying. I'm third generation American born. My Spanish speaking skills extend to ordering food at restaurants where the waitresses don't speak a lick of English (that's how you know the food will be good). I'm still proud of my heritage though, and I think Suda51 does a pretty good job in his application of Mexican themes. But yeah, I really have no idea how you, a real mexicano, would feel about it. It's not the best, but I think its a start.
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I loved Shadows of the Damned. As a Suda 51 fan and Mexican, I love how he loves the Mexican culture.
Also, as a somewhat related fact: Suda 51 studied part of his High School (or grade school? Not sure) in Mexico City.
It's not a widespread thing, here in Brazil, for example, we just elected a woman to be president. And it was not a tight election, the fact that she was a woman wasn't even considered strange by any part of the media. So, yeah, we from latin america have some rednecks that we call "machistas", but they are not the "widespread and prevalent cultural attitude".
It's always cool to get a little cultural flavor that rings as fresh or unique, but let's not turn this into ethno-fetish territory. The average dude in Mexico City is going to look at this like the average dude in Tokyo looking at the latest late-night otaku anime.
I didn't mean to make it sound like everyone in Latin America acts like this, sorry if that's how it came out. Perhaps it's not as prevalent but it's an attitude that has existed for quite some time, and as you say, there are still machistas out there.
But I wouldn't say it's the same issue that has plagued men and women and in the Western world. Sexism is still a problem in the west. Sexism, as in Man > Woman. Wheras machismo is more about Masculinity > Femininity. One is sex and the other is gender.
That's the difference between Duke and Garcia. Duke has no respect for women. Garcia does. He just happens to think men are better at certain things because of the traits afforded to him by his masculinity. That's my understanding of it.
@KingSoup
You're probably right, but I'm an anthropologist. This is how my mind works. :)
Anthropological and Psychological work found that sexist attitudes are just as common with European American men in the USA as it is among Mexican men in the Mexico. Films tend to portray certain stereotypes, but we need to remember that films (and games) often emphasize aspects of cultures in ways that may not represent the rest of the people living in that community.
Am I claiming that machismo doesn't exist in Mexican culture? Not at all. It is important to mention that a lot of what is stated in this article as "Mexican Culture" or Latino culture (in reference to Machismo) is not supported by recent research or by my experiences. Like any other community you will find sexism, but things are changing (especially in dual earning families), just like in the US. Thanks for sharing this! I would have overlooked this game!
Seriously, share the research articles that back up your claims. I'll share research that empirically researched whether sexist attitudes exist more in the USA vs Latin American Countries.
As a Mexican-American, Chicano, I do detest the stereotypes portrayed in this article. It's not the only time Mexican's have been cast as protagonists. When it is a Mexican protagonist it's either the Machista Scary guy or the Sexy Suave Romantic guy.
Actually, the only issue I have is with how the article deals with the topic of Machismo in a rather uncritical way. I did find that the article made me more interest me in buying the game to see how it portrays other aspects of Mexican culture. I
Let me ask you something, are you saying we mexicans encourage a machista view of the world? In that case I think you're kinda lost. Sure, especially in lowest socioeconomic groups a traditional way of thinking exists where the rol of a women is reserved to the home (porque las viejas solo sirven para la cocina y la cama!), but in most cases, machistas are frown upon.
Just to be clear on this one: Iberic and Latin countrys are part of the West World.
Thanks for giving this game some love and congrats on making the front page!
I'd like to see a sequel down the road, maybe on next gen systems.
Out of curiousity where are you from? it could help me better understand your point of view on culture.
Personally I feel that culture and individuality need not be mutually exclusive. You can respect your culture and still be as individual as you want.
About the article, I enjoyed it a lot, it gave me a different perspective on the game so much appreciated.
There's an entire section about masked wrestlers in there too (pre-Killer 7 to boot). It's interesting because its Suda's way of exploring his facination with the subject; so the characters talk about empowerment and flamboyance.
Though, in his usual dry way and in keeping with the theme of bucking the usual conventions, it turns out the best fighter is Scottish.

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