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I remember hating the new art style of Street Fighter 4 at first--Oh wait, no I didn't, I hated the Japanime-Big-Eyes-Disproportionate-Bodies retarded style that every SF after SF2 took. Thus I am grateful SF4 went with a more classic look/feel, while also bringing it into the new millennium of 3D-ness.
Heard this on an old Giant Bombcast before the game was finished. Apparently it was awful before the switch.
Makes sense. I guess if it was mapped off the 3d models a punch to the head would have to be pretty accurate.
It's not that abstract of a concecpt. Basically, a 2D skeleton is made of the player, with boxes indicating hit areas. When these hit indicators overlap or collide, the player is hit. This makes things a lot easier, because it allows you to use tools like Box2D for the detection.
does anyone know if the ex plus alpha renditions of street fighter utilized 2d or 3d hit detection? i'm guessing 2d since it felt pretty tight, but i remember situation where akuma could teleport on the z axis and the camera would rotate.
does anyone know if the ex plus alpha renditions of street fighter utilized 2d or 3d hit detection? i'm guessing 2d since it felt pretty tight, but i remember situation where akuma could teleport on the z axis and the camera would rotate.
@Klempky:
Not in the least. I would think that this choice should have been decision #1. How did Street Fighter EX handle it?
Not in the least. I would think that this choice should have been decision #1. How did Street Fighter EX handle it?
Not in the least. I would think that this choice should have been decision #1. How did Street Fighter EX handle it?
Do you have to ask? LOL
Very floaty, janky, and anything unlike what Street Fighter even feels like.
Do you have to ask? LOL
Very floaty, janky, and anything unlike what Street Fighter even feels like.
*Enters thread, righteously explodes dealing 999,999 dmg to EX haters for great justice*
Yeah, I guess they should have known... Still, I would love to try the old version to see what it feels like!
Yeah, I guess they should have known... Still, I would love to try the old version to see what it feels like!
Yeah, I remember hearing about when it had true 3D hit boxes from a loke test or something and it sucked.
Oh and the EX games were pretty bad, besides the music and some of the hilariously bad characters(which I adore but for the most part don't really belong in SF).
@Rammstein
What anime-big-eyes SF games are you talking about? Alpha?
Oh and the EX games were pretty bad, besides the music and some of the hilariously bad characters(which I adore but for the most part don't really belong in SF).
@Rammstein
What anime-big-eyes SF games are you talking about? Alpha?
You wouldn't have this problem if you had computer engineers working on it. Hell, I'm a mechanical engineer and I can do 3D hit detection <_<
Lazy bums D:<
Lazy bums D:<
Yeah seriously...why did they even think of using the 3d models as hit boxes to begin with. It's not a realistic fighter - dragging realistic hit boxes would mess things up.
My guess is that they USED 3D hitboxes but made an orthographic projection of it to use them in 2D space. Would be nice to hear some more technical explanation of what solution they used.
Makes perfect sense until you realise Soul Calibur, Tekken, Virtua Fighter work perfectly well with 3D hit boxes.
Sure it wouldn't be Street Fighter, but then they threw that out when adding another dimension.
Sure it wouldn't be Street Fighter, but then they threw that out when adding another dimension.
Soul Calibur, Tekken, Virtua Fighter are all played in 3d. you can move sideways, push people sideways and dodge to the side. go home and be a family man.
Soul Calibur, Tekken, and Virtua Fighter do not play like Street Fighter.
The bottom line is, if they had added 3d hit detection, it would no longer feel like a Street Fighter game. It would be a Soul Calibur, Tekken, or Virtua Fighter kind of game.
The bottom line is, if they had added 3d hit detection, it would no longer feel like a Street Fighter game. It would be a Soul Calibur, Tekken, or Virtua Fighter kind of game.
That was the biggest worry when I heard SF4 was going to be 3D models (hit detection), so I'm glad they went back to 2D for that. The EX series had their charm, but they didn't "feel" like a Street Fighter game.
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