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Seth Killian on EVO, Smash Bros. and all things Capcom photo

Before Seth Killian became the community manager at Capcom-Unity, he was merely one of the world's foremost fighting game enthusiasts and co-founder of EVO;  the most serious fighting game tournament on the planet. Back before Destructoid existed, I used to go to shoryuken.com all the time to read about EVO and what Seth and his crew were organizing next. Their unyielding dedication and endless passion for competitive fighting games was something I could relate to, then and now.

I recently had the chance to catch up with Mr Killian about current happenings at Capcom, his take on the ever evolving fighting game scene, and rumors surrounding Street Fighter 4:Championship Edition, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, and many others. Hit the jump for the rundown.

Dtoid- So, how was EVO this year?

Seth- EVO has really turned into something unique and special in the gaming world.  It’s a tournament, sure, but the atmosphere and community around it are about a billion times better than.  It’s hard to describe, but it’s kind of like a family reunion, in Vegas, where everyone gets to beat the crap out of each other and cheer for their favorites, and the caliber of play is just off the charts.  This year was the best ever, and there were 4,000 people cramming into the event hall itself, cheering, crying, and rushing the stage by turns.  Even more amazing was that hundreds of thousands watching the live stream—Street Fighter has better ratings than “Gary Unmarried” reruns!  The hardcore have kept the scene alive during a long, fighting game drought, but it’s really amazing to see that the fires we’ve kept burning for so long turn into infernos.  There’s so much history and passion and personality in the scene, and to see it run by the players, for players, is really something special.



EVO's line up has really changed over the past ten years. 2009's roster consisted of SF IV, TvC, MvC2, SF3: 3rdS, SSF2T:HD, and SC4. How did you determine which games would be available for tournament play?

Most organizations start with whoever will pay them money, and then put that game into a competition.  For us, the lineup is determined by the community.  We just look to see which fighting scenes are really pulling together, and showing a lot of committed players.  Sometimes we take a smaller game and try and “reward” the efforts of an up-and-coming or newly revived scene with a place on the big stage, but ultimately it’s up to the players themselves to represent themselves.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is arguably one of the best selling fighting games ever made. The game's sales aren't the arguable part, but its status as a fighting game is. I know that the guys I've interviewed who play Brawl competitively would argue that it's just as much of a fighting game as Street Fighter or Soul Calibur. Do you think Brawl is a fighting game, and if so, do you think Brawl will ever be playable at EVO?


It’s a real fighting game.  I didn’t always think that, but I changed my mind after spending more time playing both Melee and Brawl.  We actually had Brawl on the main stage in 2008 (with items on!) and I thought it was one of the best tourneys that year, with some spectacular finishes and outstanding play.  Most of the competitive Smash community prefers to play with items off, which is their call to make, but we try to play a kind of “no holds barred” style at EVO, until something is proven to be undeniably messed up.  I can’t imagine how crummy Marvel Vs Capcom 2 would be today if we had started banning things the first time we thought something was “overpowered” or “too random.”

How about KoFXII or BlazBlue? Might they make it into the formal EVO proceedings next year?

It’s really up to the players.  I know BlazBlue has been well-received by traditional Guilty Gear fans, so it’s a strong contender.  KOF games have loyal fans, but their competitive community hasn’t been as large.  Maybe KOFXII will re-ignite them?

On the topic of Arc system works, what ever happened to that Sammy Vs Capcom project from a while back? Any chance that could see new life someday?

I’ve heard bits and pieces about such a project, but it was before my time at Capcom, so I’m afraid I don’t have any firm details.  More than anything, these projects really comes down to coordinating timing between the studios, and I think both Aksys and Capcom have their hands very full at the moment.  I’d certainly love to see something like that though—Capcom’s “Vs” history has given us a lot of true classics.



On to Vs. fighters directly on the horizon, the excitement around Tastunoko Vs Capcom: Ultimate All Stars just keeps on snowballing. Anything news you can tell us about how the game's shaping up? New characters? Online play? Fighting sticks? Anything?

I can confirm that we are adding new characters, as well as online gameplay (we’re hoping to have territory-free worldwide opponent selection too).  As for sticks, we actually had some prototypes available to play at this year’s Comic-Con, though they really were just homebrewed prototypes and there’s nothing to announce right now.

Monster Hunter 3
recently launched in Japan, and from what I've read, the game bundled with the new classic controller pro outsold the stand alone version nearly five to one. Any chance that Capcom USA might release a game with a similar bundle here in the states? TvC:UAS seems like a good fit...


All I can say is that I loooove playing on that controller, so I for one would be very happy to see it happen.  Our office is full of PSP-loving Monster Hunter fanatics (you find them congregating in dark corners and have to shoo them out), but I was never a serious player until I played with that new classic controller pro.  It’s a definite game-changer for me, and I’m hooked.

Fans seem really split on who they want to see in TvC:UAS. On one end you have the camp that wants to see "mainstream" Capcom characters like Dante and Wesker in the game, and on the other you have those who are looking to see more "underdogs" like Gene (from God Hand) join the game's cast. As lighthearted Capcom fan, and a hardened Capcom employee, which way would you like to see things go?


Jonathan, you of all people should know there’s nothing “lighthearted” about me—I am usually the the first one swearing on the internet and being rude to waiters if my favorite characters don’t make it.  Fortunately for me, they will.

Seriously though, the problem with new characters is that although everyone agrees that more = better, somebody always ends up disappointed that their favorite didn’t make the cut.  I think people will definitely be psyched about a few of the choices in particular, especially when you get a chance to see some of these level 3 hyper combos in action.  They make me proud of the game.



One of the best (but least believable) rumors I heard at E3 09 was that Capcom was going to re-release Killer 7 on the Wii, and if the game sells well, that Harman Smith (the game's protagonist) might show up in TvC:UAS. Can you confirm or deny this one for me? Because if you don't, one of those rabid Killer 7 fans will probably threaten to kill me until I get the scoop.

I haven’t heard anything like that, so if it’s true and you do get the scoop, I’ll be first in the internet-line to read all about it.

How about the rumor that Street Fighter 4: Championship Edition being currently in the works? If you were a betting man, would you wager for or against the legitimacy of such reports?

I am a (mostly) reformed gambler, but I have the inside line on that question, so it would be, um, dishonest for me to bet.  You haven’t heard the last of Street Fighter—that much is for sure.

Finally, the last I heard on the great Mega Man 9 nugget hunt, people were thinking that the secret is just a minor connection between Mega Man 4 and Mega Man 9. Please tell me that the nugget is something cooler than that...

I check in with the nugget hunt on the regular.  Nobody has found it, but even so that thread is like the greatest compendium of Mega Man trivia of all time—great stuff.  At any rate, yes, it is cooler than those really obscure similarities.

Thanks, Seth! I appreciate your time.

[EVO photo by Terry Ng @Kineda.com]

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Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:03
Everyday Legend
I want his job.
My Megaman 1-Up head tattoo demands it.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:12
Shin Oni
nice. Though I really hope TvC additions won't disappoint. Even though I don't plan to buy a stick for the Wii, i'm willing to play it for Karas, Casshern, Batsu, and Rockman Trigger alone.
TheCleaningGuy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:13
TheCleaningGuy
Dammit Seth! Tell us the MM9 nugget! Great interview though, Holmes!
Vigilante8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:16
Vigilante8
Why there's no Tekken on the list of fighting games for EVO ? I wanted to know that since I heard of this championship.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:32
Kyle MacGregor
Okay, you had him talking about Brawl. Now we just need to move it from that to more talk about Nintendo vs. Capcom. Damnit Holmes, think of the children. All of the children that hope to, one day, see Ryu smack Mario in the face.

Killer 7 on Wii would be great. I'm not sure I could justify buying a copy though, owning 2 GCN versions.
Jawmuncher's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:34
Jawmuncher
If Wesker is in TvC I would seriously flip the fuck out.
That would be awesome.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:40
Shin Oni
@Vigilante8

what are you talking about? T6 was at EVO 09. Hell it was a early Console build IIRC.

Tekken is usually always there.
Tristero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:45
Tristero
Is the Mega Man 9 secret going to end up being revealed 20 years later like the Bald Bull camera flash trick? I really hope not.
Roager's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 16:59
Roager
I thought it was Soul Calibur 4, not Tekken.
s-kill's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 17:14
s-kill
Yep, Soul Calibur IV was a main tournament in 09, and Shin Oni was right--Tekken 6 (which has been a big part of the event for many years) was only there in an early console build. There were promo tournaments, but it wasn't on the main stage yet because it was most people's first time ever playing the game.

re: random gallery pix--I guess photoshop is both my best friend AND my enemy. lol
thiocyanide's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 17:17
thiocyanide
That's why they allowed one of the worst Brawl rulesets of all time? Because "until something is proven to be undeniably messed up" there's no reason to ban it?

The hypocrisy and stupidity in that statement are astounding.
Los255's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 17:25
Los255
GUILTY GEAR VS STREET FIGHTER?!

O_______O

Make it happen Capcom!
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 17:48
Everyday Legend
@thiocyanide

That's why I don't agree with the concept of tournament play for MvC2. It's a great game (admittedly, it's one of my ALL-TIME faves), but it's got massive, gaping holes in the fairness department. Anything that has any chance of infinite loops should be relegated to the casual play section or be fixed so a proper tournament can be held for it.

Most folks who play MvC2 religiously don't (and probably never will) agree with me on that one, however. It's understandable, as that can be taken as a slap in their face to a certain degree, especially when someone's put so much time into honing that particular craft. But it doesn't change the fact that my statement has some large quantity of truth to it, and I can only hope and pray that the inevitable MvC3 will at least have the one feature I crave out of all of my favorite fighting games: a decent sense of balance.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 17:51
Holyetheline
I thought he was here to talk about the old SNES classic EVO.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 18:53
Jonathan Holmes
@ thiocyanide - Why so serious?
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 19:11
Dan CiTi
If there comes a game where I can have a team of Mega Man Volnutt, Dudley, and Ameterasu up against Slayer, Arakune, and Face it will be the best game ever, even without Terry Bogard.
SWE3tMadness's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 20:11
SWE3tMadness
A Brawl tournament with items on? These guys are awesome!

[i]"If Wesker is in TvC I would seriously flip the fuck out.
That would be awesome."[/i]

That would indeed be awesome. (I'd like to see Leon too. :D )
d3v's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/28/2009 23:56
d3v
@SWE3tMadness
Unfortunately, most of the competitive Smash community thinks otherwise.
DGX Goggles's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/29/2009 02:22
DGX Goggles
And people wonder why we never send anyone to Tougeki who actually wins...Maybe if we had tournaments that promoted serious fighting games instead of button mashers and beat em ups...

in b4 scrubs ask what Tougeki is.
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/29/2009 05:30
the7k
@ Los255
"GUILTY GEAR VS STREET FIGHTER?!"

Considering Arc's fighters were pretty heavily inspired by Darkstalkers (In fact, I'd think their fighters wouldn't be even half the same with Darkstalkers' influence), and the fact Arc doesn't even own Guilty Gear anymore, I'd honestly lean more towards Darkstalkers vs BlazBlue making more sense.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/29/2009 07:46
Jonathan Holmes
@ the7k- Thank you!
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