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For the last few months it seems that the entire world has been comprised of two groups of people: those who love Halo 3 and those who hate it (despite the vast majority of their ranks who have yet to play it). The above clip is Adam Sessler's (of G4's X-Play) take on the entire debate, and honestly I agree with him. His points are valid, his shirt is an agreeable color and the apparent handful of barbiturates he took before the video give him a really mellow, relaxed appearance, despite his impassioned feelings on the subject.

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Zarathustra's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:22
Zarathustra
Summary of that entire video: STFUAJPG.

On a side note, there is actually a third group people regarding Halo 3: those of who just don't care.
Jakysan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:27
Jakysan
Oh I agree with his video. And guess what? I also think that all those who are hating on the game, need to just STFUAJPG as well. For those that don't care, eat a dick.
RskimB's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:27
RskimB
that might be the mellowest i've seen sessler
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:27
BlindsideDork
I guess I don't like GRAVY?

Yeah, I was far from "dancing around" when I eat the two scarabs. Besides the scarab fights and SLIGHTLY diferent levels, I had played the game before.

Either he is a halo fanboy, paid to say that from M$, or I just didn't care for Halo 3.


Getting back to The Orange Box which is WOW!
WmV337's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:28
WmV337
And just shove your dick in it.


God I love Sessler.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:29
BlindsideDork
Jakysan reminds me why I don't like to play Halo 3 online with strangers. :)
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:34
Dr Milkdad
I'm still playing through the single player, but so far, I have to say, It's boring as fuck and makes me want to play Orange Box
Capn Birdseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:36
Capn Birdseye
I agree with this guy 100%. The game is good, and the Halo Hate is getting really old.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:36
aborto thefetus
I said it once and I'll say it again, I don't friggin like Halo. Adam Sessler completely misunderstands the issue; Halo isn't a bad game and I'm not saying that it is, what I'm saying is that it's overrated. It doesn't deserve the perfect 10's it keeps friggin' getting! It has it's problems, it has it's flaws and anybody who says it doesn't is a complete fucking idiot. If you like it Adam Sessler, fine, but don't yell at people who have a different fucking opinion than you.
Trevor McGee's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:38
Trevor McGee
Who? Oh, him, that's right. I stopped paying attention when they turned G4 into SpikeTV jr. The best thinking Adam Sessler ever did was his trademark "2 out of 5" spiel when rating bad games.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with him at all. Halo isn't a bad series per say, but it's also nothing more than an overrated mediocre pile of crap. The Halo series sells solely on multiplayer and that pretty much it really. The first one was the only one that didn't and that only sold because it was new and shiny. Games like BioShock and especially Half-Life 2 rape those games.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:39
BlindsideDork
To go along with aborto thefetus...

Not in Halo-Hate but Sessler said Halo got it right, then give that game a 10 and give these less since it is more of the same of an already made game. Not saying it is 5 or 6, but it isn't 10.


/Halo-Hate
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:39
Clockwork
I like this guy on G4. Its the other guy who thinks he's the shit that I hate with a passion. YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ADAM SESSLER MAN.
tehArtist's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:39
tehArtist
'The original Halo was revolutionary because it was the first FPS to work so well on a console'

I will give him that, however, hasn't this 'revolutionairy concept' became redundant theory at this point? Evolution usually eliminates redundancy, however, the evolution in gaming is creating nothing but more and more redundancy.

'the contorl scheme has yet to be beaten by any other shooter on a console out there'

Someone should introduce him to Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. The only part lacking from Metroid Prime 3 that doesn't make it as great as Halo 3 is that it is lacking online play. Rather dissapointing, however, I look for the drop dead sexy samus to be making her appearence in her own first party title sooner than everyone thinks.


'I was dancing around like an idiot'

You always look like an idiot, so what does it matter?


Sesslers thoughts and opinions on Halo3 are about as impressive as that of the average teenage fanboy. How Dtoid deemed this news/frontpage worthy is beyond me.
HawtPawkitHero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:39
HawtPawkitHero
Just finished portal, have to say I enjoyed it more than Halo3, and I consider myself a H3 fanboy.
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:43
Magesx
I don't think he's talking to the people that think it's overrated, but the people who hate it because it's popular and they want to stand out and look cool.
DJDuffy 's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:43
DJDuffy


he just wants so loooove graaaavy....mmmmmm-mmmm, damn fine love gravy!
Magesx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:45
Magesx
And I like how whenever someone has good opinions about something not Nintendo-related, it means they were paid by X company or is an X company fanboy.

Way to go.
Capn Birdseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:46
Capn Birdseye
aborto, its a double standard. Mario and Zelda have flaws coming out the wazoo, but you dont hear the whining about them.

All he is saying is that it is an awesome game, in fact he specifically mentioned that it wasnt perfect.

I wouldn't give it a 100%, but not many sites have. In fact, I have seen many games get over 90% which deserve it way less than Halo does. To say Halo 3 is overrated, you would have to say most of the 90%+ games released are too.
MaximusDarr's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:48
MaximusDarr
I completely agree with what Sessler has to say. Halo 3, while not the most revolutionary game I have ever played, or even the best Halo game, is still one of the most fun experiences I have had with a game. If you didn't like it, that is fine. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them. But if you haven't played it and you talk shit...you definitely need to take Sessler's advice.
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:49
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
What if you don't like the people that play the game? Do I have to stick my dick in it too?
bipolar beers's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:51
bipolar beers
i dgaf about the halos so im in the 3rd group. no hate to spew. if you love it enjoy it.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:53
BlindsideDork
Magesx...you are right. I think it is overrated and that is why I don't like it.

Give me Half-Life over Halo any day.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:53
Cheeburga
Oh wow.
Zarathustra's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:54
Zarathustra
@tehArtist: Absolutely agree with you about Metroid.
I just thought of something, though. How would dual-wielding translate? Hmm...
Ah whatever, Prime 3 controls FTW.
poonster's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:54
poonster
G4's big announcement.......... they now have...the tv show Heros.big fucking deal,,what a shitty channel it's become.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:55
BlindsideDork
Magesx...I only say pay cause it is from Microsoft and so are the ads on tv and the GameFuel and the condoms and the boxers and the....

Get my point?
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:56
aborto thefetus
@birdseye

I don't know what websites your talking about, but every website and magazine I read have given it a perfect rating.

And to tell you the truth, no game deserves a perfect score. Every game has it's problems and flaws.
If any game(s) deserve a perfect rating it's games like pac-man and Tetris because there is no way you can improve those games and they have stood the test of time
tehArtist's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:58
tehArtist
@Zarathustra
Im sure dual wielding of weapons would work like single weapons. Just use the wiimote to aim. However, if you are talking swords/blades/knifes I would guess that they would set it up to chose if you are right or left handed (wiimote hand) and just make the nun-chuck hand a stab or slash hand. The more complex moves be carried out with the wiimote, and and nunchuck hand be simple twitch moves.
MaximusDarr's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 19:59
MaximusDarr
Agent Chieftan, you bring up an interesting point. While I definitely enjoy Halo, I do have some issues with people who treat the game like the second coming of Christ. Games like Half-Life are superior, but Halo is gaming comfort food. I know I will have fun when I play it.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:01
BlindsideDork
Sorry Ron, I forgot...I failed!
thedude93's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:03
thedude93
After playing through campaign 3 times, great rant!!! i will agree with everything mentioned. not game of the year, but it delivered where everyone wanted it to, multiplayer. Only complaints, campaign, needs leaderboard support for the meta game, along with clan support in online. Other than that, solid game worth hours/days/months of play (xbox live gold required)
PetiePal's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:04
PetiePal
You know what a lot of people give Sessler, Webb, Perreira and Munn a lot of crap but I honestly like them and the shows they host. AOTS is a great pop-culture roundup and X-Play has been pretty spot on in their game reviews. Although Sessler may come off as a gaming "poser" sometimes he knows his stuff and really handles himself well in debates. He was on AOTS the other night debating some topic or other on the Loop and it was actually very well thought out.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:07
aborto thefetus
@Maximus darr

I agree with you on that. One reason why I can't stand Halo is because If I say I don't like it to somebody who plays it, they'll look at me like I killed their entire family and then raped their dead bodies all while making them watch. Goddammit if I don't like it I don't friggin like it people!
Stratus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:08
Stratus
I love halo, read the books, own some figures, blah blah blah. The game is fantastic. But as people point out it isnt the second coming of Christ. Even Sessler wasnt trying to make that point. He was telling the idiots who come out of the woodwork anytime someone mentions the game to do nothing but bitch and moan to stfuajpg.

People like halo, some a jerks and internet tough guys, some are sane, rational people. Let the people who enjoy it, enjoy it and enjoy hearing news about it. I don't fucking care about Metroid 3, but I wont troll a fucking post about it because of my irrational hate for it
ArrestedDeveloper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:12
ArrestedDeveloper
@aborto thefetus
Do you ever read Destructoid? They gave it an 8.5.

And can people stop complaining about games getting 10's, everyone knows there will never be a perfect game without a flaw, should everyone change their grading scale from 1 to 9.9? Giving a 10 doesn't mean it is absolutley perfect, it means it a superior game worth standing out from the crowd.
Capn Birdseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:18
Capn Birdseye
@ aborto -

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926632.asp
I only see 3 perfects, one of them from the official mag ;P

If you do a search, you will see many games that have received higher average ratings. Wind Waker, MGS2, RE4, GTA3, many of which I consider to be worse than Halo 3, but you heard alot less whinging about them when they were released.

It is the nature of the industry. Reviewers always go overboard. No one wants to hear bad news - websites want you to feel good after visiting, so you will come back. Its basic psychology. My problem is that I can't visit a website without hearing some guy give his 2c about why Halo sucks, so it's nice to hear a rational viewpoint from others once in a while, you know?
Foshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:19
Foshi
I like this Sessler guy but I didn't have much fun playing the Halo 3. It was just too shallow and mediocre in the single player, and the multiplayer is just multiplayer nothing there that has hooked me. I loved the Halo:CE, hated 2 and I'm just indifferent about 3. The Orange Box surpasses H3 in every way possible.
MaximusDarr's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:20
MaximusDarr
@ aborto

While psycho Halo fans are definitely guilty as charged concerning your accusation, I have found they are not the only psycho fans out there. When I tell people I don't care for WOW, Madden, etc., I find myself with the same looks you described. Just because something is mainstream and successful doesn't mean that EVERYONE has to enjoy it.
donkeykong's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:20
donkeykong
Yeah I was gonna say it but someone else did about dual wielding... you can only aim one place at a time with dual analog so that shouldn't be any different. I guess the fact that the wii's controls feel more like the real thing is making people demand more from it. I suppose in the real world I can aim both of my guns at the same thing or at different things depending on my mood.

Anyway I never owned an Xbox and never got really into the Halo series but, did he say it was the first major success for FPS on console? What about goldeneye or Perfect dark for N64?

Is halo honestly that good? I just... I get bored of shooting things faster than other people I guess.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:20
aborto thefetus
@arrested developer
I geuss I missed that article.

and I can see where you're coming from with perfect ratings, but I still remain adamant that any halo game doesn't deserve to be in that category or anwhere near it.
rbrooks's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:24
rbrooks
Ya it sells for multiplayer....and so fucking what? It's awesome multi player...name any other game which is as fun lanning at someone's house with. I know i can't. It is a multiplayer game...i've had it for 3 weeks and i've beaten the first 2 lvls of single player...and do you know why...because the multiplayer is so fuckign fun. SO fuck off and go play your weak heavely sword...ahhahaha
Altair78's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:25
Altair78
Though I am in the third group of Halo peeps as mentioned in post #0, the group that doesn't care, I still give it the credit it deserves. The people that go crazy for the shit and the millions of dollars don't exactly lie.

Also, Mr. Sessler is one of my heroes. Has been for a while. He's really cool when he speaks his mind and not read silly shit from a telepromtor... though some of that is funny too.
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:25
aborto thefetus
@maximus derr

I'm not saying that halo is the only game like this, I'm just saying that it's one of the things that piss me off about it
BADInc's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:26
BADInc
Amen, I love Adam Sessler
aborto thefetus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:28
aborto thefetus
I need to stop posting on this thread, I've already got like 10 comments. talk about not having anything better to do.
tehArtist's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:31
tehArtist
@donkeykong

I'm sure if a good creative dev team got ahold of a FPS franchise that would call for dual wield shooting, they could probably come up with some type of locking system that would allow you to fire on different targets with each firearm. For example go into a dual target mode of some type, lock on with one firearm, then free aim with the second(wiimote hand). I don't know how effective/realistic that would really be, it is a thought however.

I do worry now for the FPS abilities on the wii, how will 3rd party developers live up to the controls of MP3?
Variable Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:32
Variable Gear
@ donkeykong:

That was my reaction too. First successful FPS on a console? Halo?

That is a bit of a stretch. Halo 1 was a good game that perfected FPS control on the Xbox, Halo 2 perfected online play for a console FPS, and therefore Halo 3 had little to do, but the game actually over-delivered with the Forge mode, and with the Replay feature, and with the ability to queue up downloads from Bungie.net, etc.
KnuxSonic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:33
KnuxSonic
Holy shit. I totally didn't see him saying that in the end, that caught me by surprise.
bluki's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:38
bluki
lol, that's one person opinion, if i wanted to nitpick HALO why should he care?
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/11/2007 20:54
king3vbo
I hate this guy, and Im not really sure why
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