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Sega: Interested in Shenmue, scared of poor sales photo

I hear this often, and it's starting to bug me. Yes, we know that Shenmue and the sequel did sell that well. But even more than that, I think Sega's still hurting from how much they spent to produce those games. Sure, they were large in scope, and the stretching of detailed facial textures for facial animation was a big deal at the time, but did it really cost that much? And if it did, what did the money go into? The only things that seemed expensive were the musical score and the voice work. And no, not our voice work. All I know is that Yu Suzuki drove away in a Ferrari and I never got my games.

Sega reminds again how poorly the Shenmue games sold. They told Famitsu that they still think about Shenmue a lot, but are scared of poor sales. They'd like to return to the franchise, but are afraid it will bomb for them again. They say thatif there is an opportunity to revisit the franchise, they would love to do it.

Look, Sega. We would be happy with Dreamcast-era graphics. We just want to hear the end of the story! It does not have to be an expensive game. Forget the voices. Just do text. Text and stretchy face textures. Lucky Hit too. And forklifts.

Sega talks Shenmue III [PS3Center]








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Jumbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:33
Jumbo
Could they rerelease the first two on XBLA and PSN to get some of that loot back and prime the pump for the 3rd installment?
worm jerky's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:34
worm jerky
I agree 100%. Use the same exact engine and tech for all I care, and recycle voices if you have to. I want to hear the end of the story too!
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:34
RenegadePanda
SEGA, we need to have a talk.

Just take a seat. Right over there.

Have a seat.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:39
Chris Carter
Fucking just give me Shenmue III, and recycle Shenmue II's engine.
Ke1nTrinkwasser's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:42
Ke1nTrinkwasser
They have no idea the amount of money I would pay to whip Lan Di's ass.
heyricochet's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:47
heyricochet
And Sailors. I must avenge my father.
Sir playedallot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:48
Sir playedallot
shenmue? better than heavy rain!
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 12:55
Shin Oni
when they mean "it did not sell well" they really mean:

"It didn't sell well enough to fix Sega's past fuck ups to bail them out of money problems."

as much as we all complain and bitch for a sequel, Sega's just doing a Yakuza 3 with the world and denying what's right in their face. That's just how horrible Sega's been for years.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:11
psycho terror2
@ Magnalon "Fucking just give me Shenmue III, and recycle Shenmue II's engine."

this, but add dual analogue control, because playing II with one stick is fucking frustrating.
Dan Hoyt's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:13
Dan Hoyt
I would play the SHIT, I WOULD PLAY IT UNTIL THE ALLIGATORS CAME, out of Shenmue 3. But only if they released Shenmue 2 (and 1, actually, because I don't have my Dreamcast at school with me) for PSN, so I can get caught up on the story.

DO IT SEGA.
Fossegrim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:13
Fossegrim
Did sega had even one game that sold well on the Dreamcast ? The whole console was damned from the begining. If they would make a good Shenmue game they could also sell it in my oppinion.

They make enough money with their Sonic shit they put out all the time.
tenz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:15
tenz
I was gonna suggest that they can use the yakuza engine and the story can be told well. I mean if they wanna update it to current gen though shenmue 2 has a good engine...btw anyone heard of the fate of shenmue online?
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:17
Cowboy TTop
The first problem that Sega must address is connecting with their fans, the same way Capcom do and form a community. All they need then do is ask fans directly what they like to see. They did some of this for Sonic in the last two years, but why only that? The net can yet save you, Sega.

And if not on the net, surveys could easily be put up on Live or PSN. And yes, if Sega were smart, they'd submit the first two Shen Mue games for download on both, and claw back some more money, while raising new fans for the series.

Shen Mue 1 or 2 for £/$5-10 each. A good trailer, spread it over formats (even if its the Xbox cuts on both PSN and Live) and people will bite.

As for a Shen Mue 3, if Sega can't handle the costs, go into co-production with Square or Bioware, something to get it done. But first, you good people have to invest in Yakuza 3 (and 4.

Sega fans, only you can make this game happen. Get to emailing Sega and let your voice be heard.
Fossegrim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:20
Fossegrim
I dont think it would be very profitable to make an online game out of 2/3 of a franchise.
mwoody's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:22
mwoody
People who liked Shenmue, go play Yakuza. It's Shenmue, for adults, with a good story and a badass main character. The series isn't dead, it just evolved.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:35
Dan CiTi
I started playing the first one for DC. It is pretty spectacular, sometimes mind blowing. I'd love to see what can be done on a modern console.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:37
BluDesign
I say no. As a fan to both the Shenmue and Yakuza series and many many SEGA games in general there is one thing you MUST bear in mind. This is NOT the same Sega that gave us the Dreamcast. This isn't te same company that gave us Shenmue. Hell, the American division isn't even of the same mindset as the Japanese parent company. Look at te mindsearingly dumb process we've gone through to get Yakuza 3 over here.

Sega of America does not invest the marketing dollars in their games to make them sell well over here. In japan, Yakuza 3 got a special white PS3 model to accompany it. That's damn good marketing on their part.

Here, we'll be lucky to even see a magazine ad or online banner for the game.

So, should they be afraid to release Shenmue again? Yes they should.

The Sega of today (especially here in the US) is too timid and conservative in how they work. I don't trust tem with their own game franchises anymore.

Look how much they whore out the Genesis/Master System today still. We've got the UGC disc and individual releases of all the same games on Xbox/PSN. They beat shit to death and are incapable of moving on from the past.

I'm just at a point where i had already expected to see Dreamcast games rereleased on modern consoles just to capitalize on all the good favor the Dreamcast still held with people like us.

Sega, I only want Shenmue again if you're going to man up and do it right. Half assing it doesn't cut it for me. I know you're not the same company you used to be and flogging your old wares like this is just a sad reminder of this VERY important point in considering a return to this series.
Phantom Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:41
Phantom Spaceman
Just make Shenmue III for Wii. That way it'll have shitty 10-year-old graphics AND fail at retail.
Dunther's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:41
Dunther
Exactly...
D-503's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:41
D-503
Here's my bet. If "Heavy Rain" does well. Makes its money back/critical praise. We will see a new "Shenmue"
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:44
The Silent Protagonist
@Cowboy TTop - Producing Shenmue III is a money concern and you're suggesting they collaborate with SE or Bioware?
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:47
KingSigy
Jumbo has the idea. XBLA/PSN releases (maybe even Wii Ware) of the first two and then a 3rd.
Genius's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:47
Genius
Meh, Im one of the few who hated Shenmue, it was completely boring. It still stands as the only game Ive ever fallen sound asleep while playing.
flynn110's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 13:51
flynn110
FORKLIFTS!
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:02
Retrofraction
I think it would be better if they combined all the games + the new one together and sell it on all the systems.

That way new people get the old story

old people get the ending
Reginald's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:25
Reginald
one of the best games of all time. very unique feeling. for those of your who haven't played it, it was dense beyond explanation. I pray that Sega decides to pick it up again, but who knows what Yu Suzuki is doing, and if he will ever get to complete his masterpiece.

Lan Di !!!!
rbzsfg's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:36
rbzsfg
If they release Shenmue I and II on XBLA or PSN for $10 each, I'd buy them.
AxelFury's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:36
AxelFury
At this point, I'll take the script for the rest of the story. Another game is great, but let's face it...
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:51
Monodi
1. Use same engine
2. Release for Wii, XBLA, PSN, PS2
3. ?????
4. PROFIT
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 14:54
Xzyliac
Hand it to somebody who'll do right by it first.
Camiwaits's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 15:16
Camiwaits
Please Sega do the game already. I don't ever want to hear people asking for it again. Just make it and get it over with.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 15:20
ParaParaKing
I wonder if Yu Suzuki would go back to make a new Shenmue.

Also I would rather get a remake from the Yakuza team.
BileSoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 15:38
BileSoup
I agree that they could get away with just re-using the original Shenmue engine. As far as I'm concerned that game is still the epitome of beautiful graphics and an amazing attention to detail.
RichardBlaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 16:40
RichardBlaine
Shenmue (1 and 2) is one of those games that I really loved, but don't really understand why. No one part of it was especially compelling but the disparate pieces came together so well and I just couldn't get enough. I was really bummed when both games ended. I'd love to see the franchise return, and just the fact that Sega acknowledges that it existed is hopeful. I had already mourned it and never expected to hear anything about it again, so this is a pleasant surprise.
Raulito's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 17:23
Raulito
Why not release Shenmue 3 as a series of downloadable episodes ala Sam and Max or the new Tales games?
Edge2k10's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 18:06
Edge2k10
Yeah if they just used the Dreamcast era graphics on the 360 I'd be happy, plus it'd be cheaper to make. As for voices, just uses Japanese voices, we don't need the crappy American ones. Also doing a Half Life 2 style DLC episode thing would save on disc and case production. All these are ideas Sega. I just want to know how it ends!
dirtyd89's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 18:19
dirtyd89
Re-release Shenmue 1 & 2 on PSN, XBL, and Steam.
Bring out Shenmue 3 for the PS3, 360, and PC.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 21:20
catsithx
Look just do it all as a book I'll read to everyone I do need to know ow it ends now. D:
the7k's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/29/2010 22:01
the7k
Make Shenmue 3. Make it a 'total conversion' of Yakuza 3.

There, problem solved.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 02:10
lewness
If Heavy Rain hits it big, I say they should take the chance.
StealthKnight's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2010 20:11
StealthKnight
I would love to see them Release them on the Wii for $30 together or separately. At the most they could do would be to uncompress the textures to make the game look better on HD tv's and you got profit. I would buy them again. PSN and Xbox live could work too.
Touch's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2010 12:01
Touch
Man, I need this game. Now, please
Dranz Ele's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/04/2010 03:50
Dranz Ele
I support this 100%, i dont care about the graphics... we all want to know how the bloody story ends... heavy rain its pretty popular, and it has a lot in common with shenmue.... they should pay attention to that instead of doing these new crappy sonic games...
Anna Hannah's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2011 03:56
Anna Hannah
I would love to see them Release them on the Wii for $30 together or separately. At the most they could do would be to uncompress the textures to make the game look better on HD tv's and you got profit. I would buy them again. PSN and Xbox live could work too
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