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SecuROM comes to Steam via Crysis Warhead photo

The hated DRM software known as SecuROM is included as part of Crysis Warhead's Steam release -- despite the fact that Steam acts as DRM in its own right.

To its credit, Valve clearly notes that Warhead uses third party DRM and will have limited installations of up to five machines. This is contrary to publisher EA's usual methods of hiding the use of SecuROM in its products. 

While Steam is usually trusted to be free of SecuROM -- a program criticized for software conflicts, RAM issues and "draconian" restrictions -- this isn't the first time that it's appeared on Valve's service. 2K's BioShock also included it -- a subject of controversy which caused much backpedaling and alleviation attempts from the publisher. 

This kind of strikes me as thoroughly pointless behavior, and the continued insistence on using SecuROM by EA does very little to endear it to its customers. With the ongoing Spore controversy, you'd think that Electronic Arts would learn its lesson. Apparently it has not. SecuROM has proven itself to be utterly useless in attempting to stop piracy, and with Steam providing its own DRM, its inclusion in Warhead is without merit.








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Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:24
Wexx
Ugh... EA... Losing my respect more and more every day.
wardrox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:30
wardrox
You had respect for EA?
OhVerisimilitude's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:30
OhVerisimilitude
"Though it's not a popular view, in my mind a lot of gamers are overreacting--look how many people buy music through iTunes, whose DRM mechanics are hardly lenient. That's not meant to be a judgment of right or wrong, it's just an observation that may illustrate the gulf between a certain gamer segment and the larger audience that seems to be continually more frightened away by non-casual PC gaming; I would submit their flight isn't based on activation limits."

-Chris Remo
Maurice Tan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:30
Maurice Tan
Good thing we can already download this for a week or so.
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:38
DeusPayne
I wonder what their meetings are like at EA: "I have an awesome idea, let's put securom on our steam releases" "why? they already provide a DRM scheme that works quite well" "why not?" "...FUCKING GENIUS!!!"
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:46
AKK
...

If I buy a disc copy, and then torrent it so I don't have to worry about the bullshit copy protection... is that legal?
Iron Dragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:48
Iron Dragon
I'd pirate this to get back at EA... But in all honesty it's not worth the bandwidth nevermind $29.99.

In fact... Is this EA's new anti-piracy protection? Make the games so generic and bland that no one wants to pirate them? Brilliant really.
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:50
faultymoose
SecuROM isn't about stopping piracy. Everyone knows what a crack does. SecuROM is about stopping trade-in and resale of games - the legitimate bypassing of the publisher, which costs them far more in sales than piracy ever will (and makes the traders a much bigger profit than new sales - who has ever traded in a game for $10 only to see it shelved for $40?).
Iron Dragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 10:53
Iron Dragon
@AKK in the US I believe it's illegal because you're breaking the protection scheme. It depends on your local laws.

Really though if EA hunted down their own customers for using cracks to play the games after they paid full price I'd be stunned.

The real problem comes with online games and cracks. It's not wise to go online with a cracked exe as you might get banned. With this copy protection however it maybe the only choice.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:12
Brian Szabelski
And EA was doing good things for once... then they go and pull this stunt. *sigh*
DeusPayne's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:20
DeusPayne
faultymoose: ummm..... maybe for disc copies, but a digital download has ZERO chance of being sold on the grey market.
Narishma's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:20
Narishma
Who plays Crysis online anyway?
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:23
Timmeh
I guess things like this are because developers are building DRM schemes into their stuff at such a stage that there is no way to easily/efficiently remove the code from the game itself. Or they're just fucking lazy.

I was toying with the idea of buying Warhead through Steam - I managed to enjoy Crysis despite its flaws. Guess I'll just pirate this instead. Nobody tells me how many times I can install a game.
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:23
eternalplayer2345
@ OhVerisimilitude

There's a big difference, what Itunes does is a perfectly legit way to combat piracy, it be different if itunes put a cap on how many times you can upload a song to your ipod.
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:31
faultymoose
DeusPayne: I can't shake the feeling that persisting with SecuROM for digital distro's is EA's way of saying "Deal with it". They know the backlash, and they're just throwing it up in the face of their customers. Regardless, SecuROM does NOTHING to stop piracy. In fact, I think it encourages it. But it does stop resale.

Either way, I'll personally be sure never to buy another of EA's overhyped, overpriced, piece-of-shit games again.
Malkhuth's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:33
Malkhuth
Damn, I was planning on getting Crysis Warhead off Steam in a couple weeks (or at least after Far Cry 2 comes out) because I heard that the multiplayer had been heavily improved. I refuse to buy that secuROM garbage though.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:35
PhazonYoshi
fantastic, every reason to not buy warhead retail is now gone!
Shirley Temple's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:40
Shirley Temple
About time someone posted this as news. Valve should make it mandatory to remove ALL OTHER DRM before uploading to Steam. Then it seriously serves no point. Except to piss of its customers.
KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:49
KamikazeTutor
God... I'm saving up for Dead Space and Mirror's Edge... but... I just can't support this kind of shit.

Damn, those games really looked like worthy of purchase, opposed to Spore and Warhead.
tkyy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:50
tkyy
I bet they've asked if Valve can put a limit on installation limit via Steam and Gabe Newell said "Fuck you EA", and there it goes!
Satsumomo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 11:59
Satsumomo
Because of this, I'm downloading a pirated version of Warhead from Rapidshare as we speak. I ain't installin' no SecuROM on my baby.
DarkTetsuya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:06
DarkTetsuya
@deuspayne:

"I wonder what their meetings are like at EA: "I have an awesome idea, let's put securom on our steam releases" "why? they already provide a DRM scheme that works quite well" "why not?" "...FUCKING GENIUS!!!""

Why not? how about because steam doesn't screw over loyal customers enough.
Wookiee's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:20
Wookiee
The first thing that comes to mind: The harry Potter fangirl.

NOOOOOO! BITCH! YOU BITCH!
Steel Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:21
Steel Squirrel
Hey.... Professor Pew is famous on the front page picture.
Aksumka's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:22
Aksumka
Well it looks like I won't be getting Warhead now. Unless they get their heads out of their asses and remove it by next week.

I'm not even going to pirate it. If they think this securom shit will stop piracy, they're right. I won't even bother playing the game...
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:39
Emrah
Valva is partly to blame. They should not allow such a scheme on their system, because this not only causes exceptions in their policy, but also consumer confusion.
CrocBox's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:40
CrocBox
SecuROM is fail, why can't they just let Steam handle it?
TheBorbes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:41
TheBorbes
SecuRom comes to steam... 6 months ago in Bioshock. Insert snarky arrogant comment here.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:48
mix
Well one less game I have to buy unless it hits Console (PS3) then I would give it a go.

secuROM = No thanks and I really want Red Alert....:(

If NO ONE bought this game and other games with secuROM then EA would listen to us and take it off as the one thing they want is $$$ but people are sheep so I do not see this happening.
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 12:57
Emrah
It is not about being sheep, not everyone can be informed as much as the D-toid guy. The few informed should propogate the information and try to make their voices heard.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:01
mix
@Emrah

Very true!

A lot of game purchases are moms and dads running to the store to pick up them M+ games for their 10 years old and both parties would be ill informed on whats going on.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:06
EternalDeathSlayer
Wait a sec.....Does this stuff limit the actual gameplay or anything of that sort?

I mean, how many people actually install on more than one machine, maybe 2 or 3 at most?

I don't get what all the fuss is about, but then again, I don't really use my PC for gaming. WTF is so bad about this stuff?

Someone please explain and inform? Please?
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:08
Sharpless
EA was looking up for a while, but this DRM shit is bogus. Screw EA. I will never purchase anything with DRM in it. Not that my laptop could handle Crysis anyway, but still...
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:14
mix
@EDS

Example:

I've had Diablo II installed on more than 5 computers as I still play it quite a bit and it has been around for a while.

Imagine that after that 5th instal you are fucked as you can not install it anymore at all so you have to go out and buy a whole new game to play.

So if you install the game then 2 months down the road buy a new comp/clean up HDD/new HDD and install again you only have 3 installs left before you game becomes pretty much useless.

This also hiders the effect of selling it used which is really shitty.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:21
Kaspar
Well will this madness end?!
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:55
Jim Sterling
EDS:

The general consensus is that SecuROM is simply a bad program. Restrictions aside, it has been accused of hogging RAM and screwing around with previously installed versions of itself. The fact that it often appears in games unannounced and installs itself subtley and without the custo
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 13:56
Jim Sterling
These work computers are pathetic.

To continue:

The fact that it often appears in games unannounced and installs itself subtley and without the customer's permission is also a bone of contention. I doubt you'd like to order a hamburger and have someone sneak mustard on it, unless you really love mustard.

And SecuROM is not mustard.
PhazonYoshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 14:03
PhazonYoshi
SecuMUSTARD, I'd pay for.

Something to limit what I can do with the software I have purchased the right to use, no thanks.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 14:22
EternalDeathSlayer
Haha, I get it now. Thanks guys, that does sound like it sucks ass. What ever happened to just using a 25 digit code with unlimited installs?
realyst's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 14:46
realyst
Also, imagine a game such as Starcraft. Still under IMMENSE use worldwide.

Blizzard, being Blizzard, still provides it. But how many other companies are still actively selling 10+ year old software?

So you have your old software. You want to play it now, because, hey, it still may be fun. But alas, the company is no longer honoring requests to refresh installs or no longer has the authentication servers.

Aw shit. Too bad. Enjoy your coaster or useless binary blobs.
LarkOhiya's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 14:46
LarkOhiya
when will they learn?
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 14:47
mix
@EDS

I think it has to do with the sales of used copies. They think they are loosing out on big $$ so they are smacking the hands of people who buy the game.

You cannot re-use mustard.....
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 15:34
JamnOnTheOne
"I think it has to do with the sales of used copies. They think they are loosing out on big $$ so they are smacking the hands of people who buy the game."

No...They're just tacking on essentially a disc based version of Valve's Steam DRM.

Now in both cases you don't truly own the content you've paid money for. Again, it's all the DLC idiots that blissfully accept one form of DRM, but revolt against another that's only slightly more restrictive.
robotbebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 15:42
robotbebop
I really hate the iTunes argument, the reason a lot of people "put up" with iTunes' DRM is the fact that they're only going to use their purchased music on their iPod in the first place, and if they really want to get it onto something non-iPod they can burn their DRM'd tracks to a plain-old audio CD without any issues. And AFAIK, iTunes songs will play in other Windows-based media players that support .mp4 since iTunes installs a codec for it into Windows; SO the only real reason for burning to a music CD is to get your iTunes songs in your car, or your stereo.

Basically, in all of these cases iTunes just doesn't get in your way. Also, Apple is very good about just clearing up ALL of your previous authorizations with little argument, as opposed to EA's stated "case-by-case" basis.
OhVerisimilitude's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 16:07
OhVerisimilitude
@ eternalplayer2345

Itunes music doesn't even allow you to edit it (for mixing purposes or w/e you'd like to do with it). That's like making it so you can't mod a game.

I'm fine with the whole securom thing as it stands now. However, I don't like what this signifies as the potential "new norm".
Kasmodiah's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 16:57
Kasmodiah
I have a theory why is EA putting SecuMustard with cyanide on their hamburgers. They want to alienate their own consumers, ruin PC market as a whole, and in couple of of years show their own console with all kinds of DRM hardware on it. Of course, an average title for EA console will be $250. Prove me wrong, I dare you.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 18:54
Knivy
Noooooo, get out steam!!!
lowercaseluke's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 19:25
lowercaseluke
SO DON'T FUCKING BUY IT AND THEY'LL LEARN THEIR LESSON.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 19:41
Sharpless
@lowercaseluke
And a fuck-load of good that's done for us so far.
JDavis1186's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/27/2008 19:53
JDavis1186
SecuROM: Promoting piracy, one game at a time.
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