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Screw optimism: a Shadow of the Colossus movie is a BAD idea photo

I am the most positive and forgiving person on the planet. When I got punched in the face by a bully in the 5th grade I actually apologized to him for hurting his fist on my large pumpkin head. Then I proceeded to check on him a week later to see if his hand was feeling better.

I’m not kidding.

So why, then, did I have such a negative reaction to the recent news that Sony was going to make a movie out of classic PlayStation 2 game Shadow of the Colossus? Am I just becoming bitter in my old age, or is there a reason for me running through the street nude and crying?

Hit the jump for the reasons why I think making a Shadow of the Colossus movie is a really bad idea.

Remind me: What needs to be fixed, again?

As much as I love being positive, my respect for true art and artists trumps all feelings of unbridled optimism.

It goes without saying that Shadow of the Colossus is an amazing piece of art -- there is a reason the PlayStation 2 classic is always brought up when anyone engages in an “are videogames art?” debate. The stunning visuals, combined with the game’s surprising emotional heft, truly create a unique and powerful experience.

Let me jump back on the positive bandwagon for a second and assume the upcoming Sony movie turns out to be incredible. Say the actors, the production design, the screenplay, the special effects, everything comes together and results in a truly outstanding film.

So what?

It's not really about whether the movie will be good or not. It's about why make it in the first place?

The original PlayStation 2 videogame is already so amazing, why even attempt to duplicate its perfection? In this scenario, the best the filmmakers can hope to achieve is a movie that is equal parts emotionally affecting as the videogame. The worse, and more likely, thing that can happen is the movie version is nowhere near as good as the original.

So why even attempt to remake something that definitely wasn’t broken to begin with?

Adaptation is not always a bad idea

I get that many different forms of art are brought to the big screen with stunning results -- one recent example of this is the breathtaking film adaptation of Cormac McCarthy’s novel No Country for Old Men.

But this is where some important specifics come in.

Turning an incredible book into a fantastic movie is tough, but I respect the effort. A book is, at its most basic form, a series of words typed on a page. The only visuals that can be formed while experiencing a wonderful novel or work of non-fiction are from the reader’s imagination. The transformation from page to screen is an exciting one, if only to see the creativity that is involved with bringing written characters and settings to life. The act of book to film adaptation is almost an art unto itself.

Shadow of the Colossus, the videogame, is already so cinematic that it is hard to imagine what could be done to change anything. Like I mentioned before, the best case scenario is an exact clone, while the worst case scenario is ... well ... I think we all know what the worst case scenario could be. And it’s not pretty.

It’s all about immersion

In a way, the videogame version of Shadow of the Colossus is even better than a movie could ever be. Not only is it remarkably cinematic, it is also interactive.

***MAJOR SPOILER AHEAD*** Take the scene when Agro falls from the bridge. This is one of the most haunting, heartbreaking scenes ever experienced in a videogame, and the player is completely invested in it due to the fact that they are controlling Wander and Agro before it happens. It’s like the player becomes Wander and feels an overpowering sense of guilt once his best friend in the world plummets to his supposed death. By directing Wander and Agro to jump over the broken bridge, the player feels directly responsible for what happens next. ***END OF SPOILER***

This scene could be sad in the movie version, but it will never achieve the same feeling of immersion established in the videogame.

So, again, I ask: what purpose does making this movie serve?

My snobby SotC fandom > Justin Marks’ snobby SotC fandom

As an (obvious) huge fan of Shadow of the Colossus -- something Justin Marks, the writer of the movie, claims to be as well -- I would rather everything stay as it is and encourage people to experience the original as it was meant to be experienced: as a videogame.

Granted, a lot of people out there don’t play videogames and, on top of that, would have a lot of trouble just “trying” something as complicated as Shadow of the Colossus, but I don’t think that should matter. I wouldn’t walk into a renowned chef’s kitchen and ask him to change his recipe for Venison Loin with Celery Root Puree to something closer to my tastes just because I am not a celery fan. The chef’s creation is his art and it should be taken for what it is. If I can’t handle it, I won’t eat it! Simple as that! (For the record, I would totally eat that -- it sounds delicious.)

On a similar note, I wouldn’t repaint the Mona Lisa on the side of a skyscraper just so more people could see it. If people want to experience the original, go see the original. It’s the way the artist intended.

Of course I will still see it -- I will just cross my arms in protest

Maybe I am just being crabby given the fact that my precious Shadow of the Colossus is being brought to the silver screen by the guy who wrote Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li. But I like to think it is much more than just a knee-jerk grumpy reaction to the surprising news.

If Shadow of the Colossus was a novel and someone wanted to transform it into a movie, fine -- like I said before, seeing words visualized is always an interesting experiment.  If Shadow of the Colossus was a painting and a director wanted to recreate its vision into an epic film, go right ahead -- I respect the genuine form of inspiration. For me, it comes down to what Shadow of the Colossus is: a beautiful, heartbreaking, lyrical videogame that stands alone as a glorious piece of art.

A timeless piece of art that should be respected for what it is.

A videogame that should be experienced and not just watched.

It’s not too late, Sony: There are so many original ideas out there, why not create something no one has ever seen before? Attaching the name Shadow of the Colossus to a movie may sell a certain amount of tickets, but is it really worth it? True, the movie’s quality won’t affect the original videogame in any way, but why risk it? Is this what the original artists truly want?

Don’t punch me in the face, Sony. I don’t think I will have the heart to apologize this time.

***All “you are way too serious about this” e-mails can be directed to chad@destructoid.com.


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eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:05
eternalplayer2345
I completely agree but my favorite part was the story about the bully in the beginning so cute chad!
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:11
Technophile
Your first reason is exactly why I won't bother with it. I don't see the point. If the movie is good or bad, I don't see the point. Hollywood is just out of ideas at this point.
alpha486's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:11
alpha486
I totally agree with you Chad!

There's one good thing that can come out of it though. If it even achieve half the greatness of the original game, I can finally share my excitement about SotC with my non-gamer friends and family.
Freefall's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:12
Freefall
I hate this, most people are going to think of the movie when you mention SotC. For example, when I said I liked the ending of max payne 2 to a friend, he went 'the film?'

No you idiot, the VIDEO GAME.
Jakysan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:12
Jakysan
Darn. I should finish the game before the movies out!!
JoZo's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:14
JoZo
Good read, I agree with what you had to say.

But wouldn't it be better if the link to the spoiler wasn't red? lol. Its like SPOILER ALERT!! and ... heres the link for it, it is also in red :D
Vanilla Gorilla's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:14
Vanilla Gorilla
You could have said "And it's being written by Justin Marks, the guy who wrote the Legend of Chun Li movie" and that would have pretty much been all you needed to say.
ashtar's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:15
ashtar
Justin Marks is the guy driving the creepy van and SotC is the adorable child innocently skipping down the sidewalk on the way to school.

BTW, I still can't get over how gorgeous this game still is. It looks better than 80% of games from this generation.

If Fumito Ueda finally announces his new game at E3 (which we all know the announcement is coming anyways), I'm going to need to buy a new Mac because my monitor will be covered with rocket sauce.
megaStryke's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:21
megaStryke
There was already a Shadow of the Colossus movie. It's called Reign Over Me. Okay, so it wasn't specifically ABOUT Shadow of the Colossus, but it was certainly the biggest video-game-featured-in-a-film advertisement since Super Mario Bros. 3 in The Wizard.
ygro wok's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:22
ygro wok
You have pretty described what I was trying to say in my blog only you said it better. A+!
Colette Bennett's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:23
Colette Bennett
I love you, Chad.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:25
PappaDukes
Great article, I may have to pick this game up. Sounds and looks fantastic! I played Ico, but never played this, but then again I was living in a cave on Mars for the last 5 years.
mabman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:26
mabman
Oh my god, get over it. I'm tired of seeing OMFG they're gunna make SOTC movie, send the legions of hateful fanboys. SotC was a cinematic masterpiece and would be beautiful movie in the right hands and stop saying it wouldn't. SotC would be a HOT movie if done correctly, granted it would probably miss the mainstream because it would be so artsy. I say give the movie a few lines like Wall-E, give that shit to Peter Jackson and set his ass up in New Zaaland for 2 years and you have one hell of a movie giving the game justice.
Vrynix's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:28
Vrynix
The trouble is that it's simply all about making money at this point. SotC has an outstanding reputation at this moment, even with non-gamers.
I also think that the legal rights reside with the Sony headquarters and not as such with the entertainment division. If you look at the market goal they gave to entertainment (i.e. profit, profit, profit) this isn't really a surprising turn of events. They simply don't care about us and movies are still considered a sound investment.
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:30
Uber Mashu
When I heard the news, it was the first time I can ever recall myself groaning aloud in disgust at something I read on the internet.

My physical form cried out in sadness on it's own free will. My bpdy is my temple and my temple says nay!

This is Hollywood. They'll either add another character in the form of a wily wisecracking sidekick or the damn horse will talk.

"Agro and Wanderer on another whirlwind adventure!"
LukienAkeela's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:32
LukienAkeela
Wow Chad, your just plain amazing. While I completely understand and respect Jim's point of view, this article sums up why I still think the movie is a bad idea. Thank you!
Dr Milkdad's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:33
Dr Milkdad
Since I have yet to see a great video game movie, this was just bad news for me when they announced it.

Just being realistic.
AudioTerror's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:34
AudioTerror
Why can't good video games get decent film adaptation treatment? That's all I want really. If Michel Gondry or Spike Jonze did SotC I think I would throw up from excitement.
ThunderHeartXI's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:35
ThunderHeartXI
@Sony Execs

How does I completely miss the point of the game and become cash whore.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:36
PappaDukes
@mabman - keywords, in the right hands, and "done correctly", neither of which is the case. Where the fuck was Peter Jackson?
sweetchuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:39
sweetchuck
I love the book The Road, and yet am very happy it's been made into a movie. I look forward to experiencing the story in a new media. The fact that video games are starting to be mined for adaptations like books have long been seems to strengthen the 'games as valid art' argument (at least for this, bioshock, etc and not mortal kombat, streetfighter, doom, etc). Is it because games are such a visual medium that people are less than happy to see film adaptations? Or is it just because it's yet to have been done well, with the thought and care we see it deserves?
foolishwolf's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:49
foolishwolf
Every generation has a great travesty. Shadow of the Colossus the Movie is ours.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:51
Timmeh
I gave up caring. It seems Hollywood has totally run out of ideas and they are going into overdrive adapting graphic novels, comics, books, games, old movies, foreign language movies, toys and just about anything else that has a pre-existing fan base for (almost) guaranteed sales.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 16:57
Chronic Logic
Who said anything about art? Why does a movie have to be about art? Why can't a movie be entertaining? The first Mortal Kombat movie was great because it was hammy, same thing with the 1994 Street Fighter movie. So why not make an action packed movie about our hero going on a genocidal killing spree by killing all the colossues?
StMcDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:04
StMcDuck
There's this magical place in Hollywood called 'Development Hell.' It's there that film projects can die a peaceful death over the course of many years.
This is a project that has to become a permanent resident of DH.
That would free up Justin Marks so he could go write Max Payne 2: Payne Harder or Street Fighter: The Legend of the Asian Dude in the Background of Chun-Li's Stage.
Syn's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:04
Syn
I don't see how SotC could be made into a good movie. There is minimal dialogue, incredibly few characters (excluding the colossi) and the majority of the game is made up of riding across the landscape and then climbing a giant moving building to stab it in the glowy parts.

I liked the game, it was fun and enjoyable. But the movie is gonna bomb. I would call it a puzzle game, and how are you going to convey that same sense of "HOW THE FUCK DO I KILL A MOVING BUILDING!? OH SHIT, HERE'S ANOTHER ONE AND I CAN'T DO IT THE SAME WAY!"
Uber Mashu's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:05
Uber Mashu
"Colossi, you sons of beetchez!"

mabman's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:19
mabman
new zaaland = new zealand, knew someone would catch that
Prince Ghidorah's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:29
Prince Ghidorah
@mega stryke

I was about to mention Reign Over Me. It features Adam Sandler in "serious actor" mode playing a guy who lost his family in 9/11. He subsequently goes bonkers, grows his hair to look like Bob Dylan and rides around on a little scooter. He mumbles about and plays Shadow of the Colossus throughout the movie although, in the end,his is redeemed by the love of Don Cheadle. I do not reccomend that anyone watch that movie, even on accident.
Count Grishnack's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:30
Count Grishnack
@Jimmythechang

If you made that, you sir are awesome.

I've written about where I stand, but this was still a very good write-up.

To the point "why make it?" I say Watchmen film. It didn't need to be made, but was and (I thought) was highly enjoyable. Oh and also money. They'll make it because of money.
Numpty's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:41
Numpty
If the story's so good, why not use a medium that hundreds of millions of non-gaming people will be able to experience it too?

I couldn't get into the game, it bored the tits off of me by 10 mins in, which means it got spiralled into the 'if I become a shut-in' pile. The movie's probablly the only way i'm going to experience the story. I'm looking forward to it at this point.
snotrocket's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:49
snotrocket
My big gripe is the man behind SF chunlee movie. I'm interested in seeing what they have in store for such a great compelling story such as sotc. I do however believe an indy director would be best and to make this an Indy or fan movie. With hollywood budgets behind it I think the film will be pressured to be something sotc isn't , just so the film will appeal to a larger audience.

One can hope that the movie will be so incredible that they may create more games like sotc
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 17:59
Jack Maverick
Well, at least I wouldn't have to listen to Jessica Alba. At the same time, I would have to endure watching Zac Efron as he hogs the screentime and pray he doesn't burst in dance. Talk about an unfair trade-off.

Also, I do understand all this anger toward Hollywood and this game coming together. Regardless, people WILL watch it...most of us will hate doing that and a couple more probably won't admit it, but we will watch it.
brownpig's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:00
brownpig
I could make a good SotC movie if I had 100 million dollars. It would be silent... would have really long horse rides.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:12
theredpepperofdoom
I really need to finish this game. I love it already but shit like this sounds terrible.
Sure, you can like the game but at the end of the day you still have to meet Hollywood expectations. It's like making a Naruto movie with Shia Labeouf.
Oh wait...
KMCC's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:16
KMCC
Chad, I agree with you 100%, and this quote:

" I wouldn’t repaint the Mona Lisa on the side of a skyscraper just so more people could see it. If people want to experience the original, go see the original. It’s the way the artist intended."

Sums it up perfectly. The thought of making this into a movie is just gross and unclean.
GigaMach's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:31
GigaMach
@Chad:

You're actually not angry enough.

Good points made, the main one being this: The reason the story had any poignancy at all was the medium it was presented in. I think this goes for any game with a celebrated story, in which the narrative is expressed through gameplay and not through cutscenes or text. SotC stands next to games like Silent Hill 2 and (from what I've heard) Braid, using the interactive medium to it's fullest to convey emotion and depth.

Metal Gear Solid has achieved, as it matured, similar heights, with 4 being the pinnacle, where narrative became integrated into gameplay in ways the first three games just hinted at. You could not make a faithful adaptation of MGS4 as a movie, because it finally and faithfully embraced it's standing as a game, while MGS1 would be much easier to adapt because of it's narrative structure being significantly separated from gameplay, at least apart from the CODEC expositions. But should it be adapted to film? Like you've stated: No point.
Haxan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 18:52
Haxan
Chad,
I agree in spirit. The movie is a terrible idea for many of the points that you just raised. But I still have to go with Sterling on this one, the video game is always going to be there.

As time goes on the momentum of new people picking up and playing this game for the first time is going to decrease. But with the movie, that could change everything. Just yesterday I was at Border's and I heard someone ask about picking up "the book that The Watchman was based on". The movie brought in new readers that may have never gone back to the original. Why couldn't a Shadows movie do the same?

In fact, imagine this scenario: A non-gamer sees and enjoys the movie. (S)he has a PS2 lying around in their home (I mean who doesn't). This person decides to pick up a copy of the game on eBay for 15 bucks and is transported into a superior world of storytelling. This person becomes hooked not just on that game, but on videogames in general.

That doesn't sound too unlikely at all. In addition to all of the people who are already gamers that feel the urge to get a copy of the game while the movie's in production just so that they can say that they played it first.

But, really, I would love to see a guy climbing up onto the backs of giant monsters on a giant IMAX screen! I don't care if it sucks a ton, I would love to see those visuals. And then bitch about it like crazy afterward because Optimus Prime says "My bad". Whoops, wrong rant.
Im OK's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 19:48
Im OK
Hmm, ninety minutes of a dude riding around on a horse + thirty minutes cumulatively interspersed throughout of the same dude fighting CGI monsters. Or they might do a sixty/sixty split.

Unless, of course, they decide to add extraneous "plot" that was mostly absent from the game itself.

Either way, even though the game was awesome and amazing, a movie based on it will almost assuredly suck. If it doesn't suck, I will be shocked and pleased.
Bodb's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 19:54
Bodb
I think it would be awesome if they included everything in the game, unabridged, but played it all in fast motion, so it would finish in a reasonable time.Maybe add some ragtime, I dunno.
HamalSharatan's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 20:24
HamalSharatan
"So, again, I ask: what purpose does making this movie serve?"

Taking the story to another medium where their fans may not be gamers, yes?
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 20:50
Corak
Execs are always so preoccupied with thinking if they can make something that they don't stop and think if they should. There are very few examples of good book/comic/game adaptations to movies and I have very little hope that this opus will be given the money, and talent it deserves. But who knows maybe it'll turn out to be great, or it'll be another sorry attempt to cash in on a franchise when it should have been left to stand on its own. If you've heard Kevin Smith talk about movie execs you'll know why a lot of us are scared to death when we hear stuff like this.
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 20:56
Loogibot
For those who are saying, "let's give this a chance", well, here is the problem: We've already given too many chances to Hollywood to make a decent videogame inspired movie and they've haven't done the best job at that. The movie is going to be shit because of the loss of translation between mediums. I would love to be optimistic about this, hoping that It would be awesome and great, but I have this strong feeling that is not going to be the case. In any case, it doesn't matter, the game will always be there and people can pick it up whenever.
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 21:31
Dexter345
You are not too serious about this. I totally agree with you.
thisissami's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 21:47
thisissami
i'm with eternalplayer2345... that bully story is so cute!!
Korolev's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 21:48
Korolev
If it's a CGI film, maybe it won't be a complete butchery of the game. If live actors are involved...... well, you're going to have another Dragon Ball Z film or a Street-Fighter film. And Shadow of the Colossus deserves better.

At best, this film will be like Final Fantasy: Spirits within or Advent Children - both weren't good films, but they weren't terrible either. At worst - you'll see brendan fraser fighting mini colossi statues, alongside tara reid, while quipping some lame one-liner, like "I HATE statues" or some other such bollocks.
Dreamsower's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 22:51
Dreamsower
That Chad is so hot when he's angry. errrr... good points there Concelmo!

Even though I wouldn't want them to touch it, if they did make a movie I'd be curious enough to watch it (which may or may not be a painful experience).
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/09/2009 23:11
brainderailment
"There are so many original ideas out there, why not create something no one has ever seen before?" QFT

I ask myself this all the time.
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