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If your really into cards you may as well go spend your money on Pokemon or Magic cards. Why? Because why spend your money on a game that makes your cards look pretty instead of, I don't know, uh, ACTUL FREKING CARDS.
Fail.
Fail.
Those two guys in the packaging are defintely what the audience of this game looks like. And on another note, what the hell is this game? Never heard of it until 20 seconds ago. SIXAXIS and eye toy Yu-Gi-Oh card games PS3 WEEEEE!!!!
@ Neonie:
These are actual cards. The difference here is that you get the cool, HD visuals to go along with it. If the card game is tight (and I don't know anything about card games), why wouldn't you want to try something new?
I think it's a cool idea, personally. Since I first saw the live demo at E3 2006, I've been impressed by the game and its tech. Granted, I might never play it (unless I end up reviewing it), but that's another story.
These are actual cards. The difference here is that you get the cool, HD visuals to go along with it. If the card game is tight (and I don't know anything about card games), why wouldn't you want to try something new?
I think it's a cool idea, personally. Since I first saw the live demo at E3 2006, I've been impressed by the game and its tech. Granted, I might never play it (unless I end up reviewing it), but that's another story.
Personally, I'm all about UFS (Universal Fighting System) right now, but if I had a PS3, I'd try this game out. Hell, it's geeky enough for me.
@Nick
Ya but your spending like $70 for the game, and the booster pack (and for some reason a camrea?)
When you could go ahead and get a Magic booster pack for $10 then spend the other odd $60 on Magic card packs at like $5 a piece and by the end of it have A LOT more cards then if you had bought that game. It just seems like anyone who actully wanted to go ahead and collect cards would NOTICE this and go the smart route with their money.
Ya but your spending like $70 for the game, and the booster pack (and for some reason a camrea?)
When you could go ahead and get a Magic booster pack for $10 then spend the other odd $60 on Magic card packs at like $5 a piece and by the end of it have A LOT more cards then if you had bought that game. It just seems like anyone who actully wanted to go ahead and collect cards would NOTICE this and go the smart route with their money.
Ok...so, question.
From what I understand, this game works by you basically "scanning" the card you want to play under the camera, right?
What's to stop people from making copies/printing out the cards, instead of blowing money on booster packs and whatnot?
From what I understand, this game works by you basically "scanning" the card you want to play under the camera, right?
What's to stop people from making copies/printing out the cards, instead of blowing money on booster packs and whatnot?
I'm interested in EOJ, but only if there are people to play it with.
And Neonie, go take your whining elsewhere.
And Neonie, go take your whining elsewhere.
@Neonie:
The fact is, $70 won't even get you in the door in MtG. You're looking at a $1000+ investment to have more than 3-4 decks worth playing. Then you have to cycle those decks and buy more and more cards to keep up with the current metagame (which changes every 4 months or less.) God forbid that you want to play something other than type 2. Then the values and rate of decks changing goes through the roof up to $4000+ per deck with single cards costing over $500. There is no such thing as a smart route with Magic excluding Magic Workshop and Apprentice. Hell if you play MTG:O you're looking at paying hundreds just for data. Chances are this game won't be as wildly popular as Magic so the prices on individual cards won't be nearly as rediculous. Given the limited market I would be supprised to see any non-promo/fetch cards going over $10. I know it seems like I'm down on magic, but that's far from the case. I've participated in a few major events, and I enjoy the game quite a bit. I would just never recommend it to someone on the basis of "the cheaper route to get into card games." I say that as someone who could afford a decient car were they to sell their Magic cards.
The fact is, $70 won't even get you in the door in MtG. You're looking at a $1000+ investment to have more than 3-4 decks worth playing. Then you have to cycle those decks and buy more and more cards to keep up with the current metagame (which changes every 4 months or less.) God forbid that you want to play something other than type 2. Then the values and rate of decks changing goes through the roof up to $4000+ per deck with single cards costing over $500. There is no such thing as a smart route with Magic excluding Magic Workshop and Apprentice. Hell if you play MTG:O you're looking at paying hundreds just for data. Chances are this game won't be as wildly popular as Magic so the prices on individual cards won't be nearly as rediculous. Given the limited market I would be supprised to see any non-promo/fetch cards going over $10. I know it seems like I'm down on magic, but that's far from the case. I've participated in a few major events, and I enjoy the game quite a bit. I would just never recommend it to someone on the basis of "the cheaper route to get into card games." I say that as someone who could afford a decient car were they to sell their Magic cards.
@anemone
Hm good point, but I'm sure there are still other routs to go as far as card games besides magic that would be cheaper.
Other then that I seem to be in "check"
Hm good point, but I'm sure there are still other routs to go as far as card games besides magic that would be cheaper.
Other then that I seem to be in "check"
Anemone: That is far from the truth. Casual friends looking to get into magic can play each other and have great fun for under $50 each, easily.
WTF are you talking about with $1,000+? You are on some bad drugs.
WTF are you talking about with $1,000+? You are on some bad drugs.
I think this is a neat concept. Will it sell, who knows.
@Neonie
They are actual cards and the camera scans them (data chip, upc..who knows) and brings them up on the screen so you can actually see battles and characters. This sounds much better than laying cards down and stating damage done, you actually get to see it in action.
@Neonie
They are actual cards and the camera scans them (data chip, upc..who knows) and brings them up on the screen so you can actually see battles and characters. This sounds much better than laying cards down and stating damage done, you actually get to see it in action.
I just Hate Plastic (*snip*snip*) packages. 'Cause if your collecting stuff and also playing the same stuff you'd have to buy two. Maybe I can steam the back of.
Oh and wasn't there supposed to be like some sort of stand for the camera?
Also, Cheers!
Oh and wasn't there supposed to be like some sort of stand for the camera?
Also, Cheers!
I'm totally in as long as it doesnt get terrible reviews. I'm sure you guys have played it a little, any hints on if I should be doling out my hard earned ducets for this?
@ShadowXOR
No, not drugs, I just don't play casual Magic. Actually it's quite the opposite; I used to be involved in the high end tournament Magic scene. Yes, you are correct that you can play casual magic for the price of a starter deck. Sorry I didn't even consider casual Magic due to the fact that most of the magic community tends to ignore it. I should have said, to play with anyone who is a serious player. To be honest Magic was more fun back when I played casually. After you become more involved, it all boils down to math and smart reads. While that's great for competition, most of the imagination that made it fun is gone at that point.
No, not drugs, I just don't play casual Magic. Actually it's quite the opposite; I used to be involved in the high end tournament Magic scene. Yes, you are correct that you can play casual magic for the price of a starter deck. Sorry I didn't even consider casual Magic due to the fact that most of the magic community tends to ignore it. I should have said, to play with anyone who is a serious player. To be honest Magic was more fun back when I played casually. After you become more involved, it all boils down to math and smart reads. While that's great for competition, most of the imagination that made it fun is gone at that point.
I saw this at DigitalLife today, and while the technology certainly is cool — it scans a real, physical card that you lay down on a board, and then an animated character appears on the screen in that spot — I couldn’t see myself buying this. If they sold the Eye separately for, say, $50 or less, and a decent amount of games that supported it started to come out, then I’d think about it. But a card game? Nah. I was never even into Pokémon cards back in the day.
this interests me... i used to play MTG in high school... kinad had to quit after jobs and people moving away made it too hard to find people to game with.
I will admit, i'd rather see it on 360 or wii though... MS would need a decent IP to go with it though... piniatas would not interest me... maybe something halo based... I'd be more likely to play a halo card game than a halo RTS(unless it was on PC) Like someone up above me said... camera card game+pokemon = poverty for all
also, for shitty packaging, i prefer a good sharp utility knife to scissors... it does the job better, you just have to be careful to not cut your hands off in the process.
PS: all this talking about card games on consoles has me thinking... when was the last time we got a new deck for UNO... I liked most of the special ones they had... I was hoping we would see a free halo themed one as halo advertising or something..
I will admit, i'd rather see it on 360 or wii though... MS would need a decent IP to go with it though... piniatas would not interest me... maybe something halo based... I'd be more likely to play a halo card game than a halo RTS(unless it was on PC) Like someone up above me said... camera card game+pokemon = poverty for all
also, for shitty packaging, i prefer a good sharp utility knife to scissors... it does the job better, you just have to be careful to not cut your hands off in the process.
PS: all this talking about card games on consoles has me thinking... when was the last time we got a new deck for UNO... I liked most of the special ones they had... I was hoping we would see a free halo themed one as halo advertising or something..
Aerox:
You wouldn't have to worry about fake cards in same screen play because... well, it's right there.
But online games are a little different. The game tracks the cards that are in your deck and digitally shuffles and draws them for you. You have to then look through your physical deck for the card that the game says you have in your hand and play it.
It's a hassle, but it's the best workaround to Online play, where cheating can most certainly be an issue.
And I'm fairly certain the cards have an unreproducible barcode or something (hologram?) to prevent reproductions.
You wouldn't have to worry about fake cards in same screen play because... well, it's right there.
But online games are a little different. The game tracks the cards that are in your deck and digitally shuffles and draws them for you. You have to then look through your physical deck for the card that the game says you have in your hand and play it.
It's a hassle, but it's the best workaround to Online play, where cheating can most certainly be an issue.
And I'm fairly certain the cards have an unreproducible barcode or something (hologram?) to prevent reproductions.
To those worried about cheating I think it works this way. You have to scan your deck (30 cards total) before playing an online game. This deck will be saved to your hard drive so you only need to enter the deck in one time. Once you're online you select the deck you would like to use and the game automatically shuffles and draws your cards each turn. When you want to play a specific card you must find the actual card and scan it, which has a small bar code that recognizes it to avoid duplicate uses and such.
Obviously the developers took care into making it hard to cheat. Pretty much everything you thought could happen as far as cheating, they have some preventative measure in place. Add in the fact they'll probably put out patches to correct anything that isn't working properly.
I hope so at least...
Obviously the developers took care into making it hard to cheat. Pretty much everything you thought could happen as far as cheating, they have some preventative measure in place. Add in the fact they'll probably put out patches to correct anything that isn't working properly.
I hope so at least...
I think it's a great idea but theres a few problems that come to mind.
1. Will the cards be available in local hobby shops?
2. Is there single-player capability
3. Can you earn NON-Material cards to play with in game.
4. This brings about a lot of cheating seeing as how someone can just pick a card from their deck IF a turn based 1 draw per turn is a basic rule.
On a better note: Freakin sweet, can't wait to try it out!
1. Will the cards be available in local hobby shops?
2. Is there single-player capability
3. Can you earn NON-Material cards to play with in game.
4. This brings about a lot of cheating seeing as how someone can just pick a card from their deck IF a turn based 1 draw per turn is a basic rule.
On a better note: Freakin sweet, can't wait to try it out!
I think it's a very interesting idea, i'd probably play it if i had a PS3. I'm sure their are lots of card game players who would love to play their card games with some nice visuals to go with them.
Y'know, if they wanted to, current card games like yu-gi-oh and magic could get in on this in the future. Sure the current cards couldn't since they were not designed to have what ever is used by the camera to detect them, however, newer generations of cards could have the chips or whatever put into them. It would even give them an escuse to rerelease the old cards just so you can get them for the game... many current players might not like needing to bascially start all over (though they can always choose just to keep playing like they normally do), but newer players will be utterly thrilled. Hell, part of the work for making such games is already done since my cards have already been turned into 3D models for other card based video games (though they might want to update them for PS3).
@Raidensolid
1)Seeing as wizards of the coast is handling the card end, it is VERY likely
3)Doubtful, if they were gonna give you non-material cards to play, then there would be no point in making trading cards to begin with...
Y'know, if they wanted to, current card games like yu-gi-oh and magic could get in on this in the future. Sure the current cards couldn't since they were not designed to have what ever is used by the camera to detect them, however, newer generations of cards could have the chips or whatever put into them. It would even give them an escuse to rerelease the old cards just so you can get them for the game... many current players might not like needing to bascially start all over (though they can always choose just to keep playing like they normally do), but newer players will be utterly thrilled. Hell, part of the work for making such games is already done since my cards have already been turned into 3D models for other card based video games (though they might want to update them for PS3).
@Raidensolid
1)Seeing as wizards of the coast is handling the card end, it is VERY likely
3)Doubtful, if they were gonna give you non-material cards to play, then there would be no point in making trading cards to begin with...
Reminds me of all the CD cases I used to crack (due to impatience) back when they had those damn anti-theft devices on them. I can't tell you how many times someone would give me one as a gift, having not making sure the clerk removed the cursed thing.
Yeah ummm.... no. You wanna play a card game without paying out the ass? Culdecept Saga is coming out for 360.
Well as long as I can print out all the cards I want then that would be fun to play! Ok maybe not... but it sure would be cheap. And looking at the barcode, it will not be hard to print these cards at all with any printer from even the 80s.
shows how dumb I am... for some reason I thought Culdecept saga was a horse racing sim.... don't know where i got that idea...
looks fairly fun actually... then again, I was a fan of PSO episode 3, even if it didn't get much of my time. It is one of those games that I would like an excuse to go back and spend some time with.
I'm actually surprised to see a game like that getting a western release... EBgames' website says January and only $40. Microsoft seems to be doing better about getting games released globally lately... here's hoping that I'll get a chance to play Operation darkness and maybe even oneechanbara vortex next year too
looks fairly fun actually... then again, I was a fan of PSO episode 3, even if it didn't get much of my time. It is one of those games that I would like an excuse to go back and spend some time with.
I'm actually surprised to see a game like that getting a western release... EBgames' website says January and only $40. Microsoft seems to be doing better about getting games released globally lately... here's hoping that I'll get a chance to play Operation darkness and maybe even oneechanbara vortex next year too
Culdecept Saga is more of a board game.
And if none of you have seen the video feeds for this game, check them out.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2643.html
The one where the man summons a dragon and pokes at it - and it reacts, on-screen by rearing and hissing and whatnot - is amazing.
The replay value of this game should be incredible as well. I imagine there is a campaign mode of sorts too.
Very, very excited for this game. Already pre-ordered.
Cheers,
- C
And if none of you have seen the video feeds for this game, check them out.
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/2643.html
The one where the man summons a dragon and pokes at it - and it reacts, on-screen by rearing and hissing and whatnot - is amazing.
The replay value of this game should be incredible as well. I imagine there is a campaign mode of sorts too.
Very, very excited for this game. Already pre-ordered.
Cheers,
- C
Holy fuck are you serious? People would be willing to drop 1-4k on a deck of magic cards?
I never played and never tried so it's mind blowing to me. I'd just want the HD camera really not the game, not my thing, I think. Never tried those type of games.
I never played and never tried so it's mind blowing to me. I'd just want the HD camera really not the game, not my thing, I think. Never tried those type of games.
$69 is a great price considering it includes the camera. Early impressions of the card game suggest it's pretty good too, but no matter how good it is, I really don't see this appealing to anyone but Yu-gi-oh / Magic the Gathering fans (i.e pre-teen boys and nerds). I'd actually be embarrassed to be seen playing the game.
Perhaps they have other bundles in mind. Singstar has potential to reach a wider audience if it was bundled with a camera as well as microphones.
Perhaps they have other bundles in mind. Singstar has potential to reach a wider audience if it was bundled with a camera as well as microphones.
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