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School shooting in Germany linked to videogames photo

A school shooting that took place in Germany yesterday is already being linked to videogames, with politicians in the typically game-unfriendly country pointing fingers at violent media exposure.

Tim Kretschmer dressed himself in black commando garb and opened fire at random at the Albertville-Realschule school in South Germany, killing nine pupils and three teachers, before fleeing the scene. He would later shoot another person near a psychiatric hospital, before hijacking a car and forcing the driver to take him to the nearby town of Wendlingen. Police eventually tracked him down and shot him dead, but not before a gunfight that claimed the lives of two more passers-by, and wounded two police officers. 

Germany's already strict gun laws are being examined in the wake of this shooting, while politicians cluck about violence in the media and look at videogames as a possible cause. The country already has a reputation for banning outright any games that offend their censors, and a lot of material fails to (legally) make it to German gamers without heavy edits. This latest murder spree is not going to help matters at all. 

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loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:44
loki d20
I thought this went without having to be said? Heck, I'm sure there are some nutcases out there that linked Cheney's shooting of his friend while hunting to video games. Probably thought his friend was that dog that laughed at him all the time in Duck Hunt is what they probably came up with.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:45
John B
But OF COURSE!! You knew that this was inevitable!

First is was cigarettes. All cigarette smokers were evil. Now people need a new scapegoat for society's ills, so what better candidate than video games?
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:47
Emrah
Facepalm indeed. Gaming is a popular activity. I hope this incident does not result in more legistlations against games.
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:50
Leathersoup
It's a good thing they ban all those violent games in Germany. They have a school shooting and they still blame it on video games.
wast3oid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:54
wast3oid
The papers here in Germany are full of that. They say he was also a very good table-tennis player but nobody links table-tennis to school shootings.

WORD OF ADVISE TO ALL DTOID READERS, WHO STILL GO TO SCHOOL:

if you have a strange dude in your class, who also plays tennis on wii sports --> duck and cover
The Young Scot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 08:59
The Young Scot
Shouldn't the fact that they already ban/censor videogames and something like this still happens kind of give them the idea that maybe it WASN'T videogames?
IroN1c's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:01
IroN1c
It wasn't me.
Vedicardi2's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:03
Vedicardi2
poor germany
Kyosji's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:07
Kyosji
Actually, how the story goes on cnn is that the shootings weren't random. nearly all the kills were head shots and nearly all of the deaths were female. in the end he shot himselves as police were closing in.

Kretschmer said: "Everyone laughs at me. No one recognizes my potential. I mean this seriously. I have got a weapon here and tomorrow I am going to go to my former school and give them hell.

"Maybe I would escape, keep your ear to the ground. You'll hear from me tomorrow morning. Just notice the name of the place, Winnenden. Don't say anything to the police."

How can they blame video games on this when it's been the same reason people killed others in school since the beginning of time? "They laughed at me"

But yea, CNN took its stab at games as well: "Police said Thursday that 15 guns had been found at the killer's home and violent video games. The guns belonged to Kretschmer's father, who was a gun club member."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/12/germany.school.shooting.women/index.html
TopKatt's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:07
TopKatt
I wish we could go back to the days before video games were invented when nobody ever killed or hurt anybody else.
Kaspar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:11
Kaspar
We all knew this was coming.

If their government actually responses to it, this will be a massive cock-in-ass for all European gamers...
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:11
PappaDukes
Yay video games!
Kyosji's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:13
Kyosji
Kasper, you're talking about a country that bans video games that their country produces. Germans are a backwards people.
Doomsday Forte's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:17
Doomsday Forte
Oh hell. No surprise of course, but come on.

There was a shooting in Kentucky here recently, and apparently "the worst massacre in the state's history." The guy apparently wanted to get revenge on those who "wronged him" and killed a large number of people, some of his own relatives included.

How long until someone points their finger at video games in this situation? He's an adult man (mid-30s, I believe) so he's not a teenager most likely to be exposed to video games. This was all premeditated. And, well, he recently lost his job I think, so "the economy" could be another thing to blame, but I'm juuuuuuuuust waiting for someone to say "oh lol he play murder simulator lmao" on the news.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:20
Sexualchocolate
I always wondered, on all the WW2 games, do they get released in Germany?

Would Germans play games that revolve around shooting Nazis?
pd771's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:22
pd771
I never get these arguments. These things will happen because every once in a while, a person is comes along that is messed up enough to do this. Society may play a small part, but when 1 millions kids don't go on a murder spree with video games around and 1 does, that means the kid is probably the issue.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:30
Chronic Logic
Only 16? Pfft, noob. A far cry from breaking the record of 32.
Freekdeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:43
Freekdeman
He didn`t shoot himself, somebody twittert the event. It`s a tragedy though, so pointless.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c7_1236837917
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:44
Kraid
98% of people that live breathe air. I blame the atmosphere.
The other 2% are too stuck up their own arses , intoxicated by metane.
Freekdeman's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:46
Freekdeman
BTW, I love the way they say, guns and violent video-games, did he shoot those people or threw pc`s and consoles at them?
PersonalGaming's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:48
PersonalGaming
Hello Destructoid community,
I am reading this blog for quite a while now and due to the fact that I am a German gamer myself I found now it was the right time to register. The shocking school massacre yesterday set Germany on fire, that's for sure. And still it's all the same - the same cries for change, the same campaign against so called killergames. I wrote a longer article about yesterday's event, if you are interested check it out http://personalgaming.blogspot.com/2009/03/commentary-to-todays-school-shooting.html
ZombiePlatypus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:49
ZombiePlatypus
I thought only us Americans shot up our schools?
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 09:51
Kraid
^It's clear that videogames are related , he aimed at their heads. Everybody knows you get more frags when aiming at their craniums!!!!

and you run faster with a knife. These are all revered theories of modern science.
Redzie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:03
Redzie
I knew it from the moment I turned on the TV this morning that video games would get blamed in this somehow. Fuckwads.
Kyosji's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:19
Kyosji
Freekdeman at 03/12/2009 09:43

He didn`t shoot himself, somebody twittert the event. It`s a tragedy though, so pointless.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c7_1236837917
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Um. Even that said he shot himself, mate.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:43
Barcode
/facepalm

There's nothing we can really do other than constantly talk about the ongoing problem of politics vs. video games.
n0brein's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 10:55
n0brein
I'm going to write a c-blog about the situation of gaming and other media in germany. I intended to write it in a few weeks, but now seems the right time to do so
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:03
loki d20
But yea, CNN took its stab at games as well: "Police said Thursday that 15 guns had been found at the killer's home and violent video games. The guns belonged to Kretschmer's father, who was a gun club member."

Yup, it's obviously the video games that made him violent. It's never violent people who are drawn to violent video games. And, how hilarious is it now that video games are being mentioned alongside an arsenal of guns as a scare tactic? What next? U.S. Soldiers take Kim Jong-il's mansion and find his secret cache of nuclear weapons and violent video games?
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:10
Tet
Oh goodie, a morality lesson on video games from the country that invented Nazism.
Timstuff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:14
Timstuff
Germany has strict gun laws and strict censorship laws for games, so this all proves two things:

1. Gun laws only prevent GOOD people from getting guns
2. Censoring games does not prevent people from being sick in the head
Cheesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:25
Cheesus
@Kyosji and many others:
That text is fake, the media just did a very bad job and fell for someone's photoshop prank.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:44
Niero
How about "we need less parents that own 15 automatic rifles"? When the fuck is that conversation happening?
Kannaya's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 11:54
Kannaya
@Niero: That's just good parenting I hear.

@Jim: I love the image you made for this article. Summarizes all of my feeling towards this subject.
catsithx's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:00
catsithx
God another messed up person going to make it all bad for the rest of us gamers to get some decent games now. I am sad those people died but the kid was most likely fucked up to begin with. Of course the family will say it was those god awful games that made him do it. shit now I have to hurry up and get murderworld before they try to yak it off the shelves
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:17
Holyetheline
damn that's a sad story.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:30
mix
Sucks for all the innocent people who died and it's becoming non phasing when we hear about deaths "linked" to videogames as people will ALWAYS be blaming someone or something for their actions.

We'll never hear: "Oh, I was just pissed off and decided to kill some randoms"

Also, who the HELL stands around to watch a shootout?
I'm sorry but if your a "bystander" to a shootout you pretty much knew that the bullets were going to fly at some point...stupid idiots.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:35
Monodi
Cain and Abel were Halo rivals.

@Niero

Dude but guns are MANLY
Zaroturasto's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:35
Zaroturasto
This can happen anywhere in the world, too bad it happened in Germany, where there are already strict policy on new releases of games, ..its a little funny, sometimes i feel that if the wii didn't get constructed, the whole ordeal would be blown to epic proportions.
Nogarda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 12:46
Nogarda
I cant wait til they link it to madworld on the Wii. the epic bullshit fail that will spawn is just going to be an amazing counter attack for gamers when fox news do it (they are gonna, any excuse to berate games) cause its not even out yet in the EU... by 24 hours. Cant blame it on manhunt 2.... banzored. hmmn.... mass effect again? shows 1 second of ass and has guns so thats clearly to blame?

We all know this has FA to do with games, the dude was just a f'in nutjob and we all know it. he had gf issues as shown by the fact he seemed to of targetted only females.
Chrisbydemand's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 13:51
Chrisbydemand
I Like When Something Bad Happens They Are Quick To Blame Video games
kii from hell's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 22:06
kii from hell
@Sexualchocolate of course we would. shooting nazies is the only ethical correct killing besides zombies.
which makes me wonder why germany banned the zombie nazies from gears of war.
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