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Save Ryu from looking generic in Street Fighter IV: A fanboy's top 10 wishes
Save Ryu from looking generic in Street Fighter IV: A fanboy's top 10 wishes screenshot
Niero
\\ 12.24.2007
111 comments

You've seen the screenshots. You've discussed trashed them. We've listened. Well, we've done more than that.  Destructoid has aggregated a collection of the top 10 most frequent complaints about Street Fighter IV's look and feel -- including various industry people's gripes -- and have created a minor redesign proposal that hopes to rescue this game from falling into the never-ending pit of generic looking fighting games. 

Is it possible to make all SF fanboys happy? Not a chance in hell.  However, enough specific things were said about Ryu's character model that led us to believe that their present 2D/3D art direction was salvageable if it was more true to the previous game's actual sprites. Is this really necessary? Depends on who you ask. This article is written for the hardcore SF fanboy who were deeply disappointed in the early preview. If you count yourself among their ranks, we would love to have you weigh in on this discussion.

So without further ado, I now temporarily resign myself as a Destructoid editor to effectively go on full-on abusive Ryu fanboy mode after the jump. I'll try to keep the death threats to a minimum. Starting with ...

10 - NOT ALL STREET FIGHTERS SHOP AT INTERNATIONAL MALE

Minor but notable, the departure from the large "flappy" costume to what looks more like low cut tank-top and tight dance leggings. If you can see muscle definition through a set of pants, you're either a porn star or you definitely picked up the wrong size pants. This appears to be the primary result of other more notable bad design decisions, which is our next point:

09 - RYU AND KEN ARE NOT A DWARVES OR HOBBITS

Supposing the pants are the right size, Ryu must have been hitting the rice and beans pretty hard prior to Street Fighter IV. The thickness of the legs on screens that show both him and Ken show child-bearing hips and non-existent shins. The knees are practically on top of the ankles and the feet look like swollen Hobbit hooves. Previous SF games do have stylized exaggerated hands and feet, which are great, but when coupled with fat knees and fat legs it just makes him look like a teapot: short and stout. Please choose one or the other!

 

08 - RYU IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MUSCLES ON TOP OF OTHER MUSCLES

Think Ryu would allow a chest cavity and space between his neck, biceps, and shoulder to remain unused? No way! He would find a way to develop muscles that didn't exist and grow them there. While it seems they nailed the forearms, Ryu's neck should look like a 500 year old Oak tree and his other body parts should look like they are filled with concrete. The chest and shoulders looked particularly wimpy as a result of not allowing muscles to grow on other muscles. Also, his adam's apple should look like a knife.

 

07 - RYU IS A RECTANGLE, NOT A SQUARE

Building on the the muscle-on-muscle concept, giving him a thick waist and narrow shoulders (perhaps due to the horribly disproportionate size of his melon) is a leading factor in why the characters look so generic. Ryu needs to look like could carry two giant lamp posts on his shoulders. The current design looks like he might struggle holding up a boom box. The man looks like he's never done a pull-up and that's just wrong.

 

06 - RYU'S FISTS SHOULD NOT BE SPONSORED BY NERF

Since when is this Street Sparring IV? Ryu's fists need to look like Mack Trucks of Death. The wimpy looking glossy, rubbery hand guards completely pussify how lethal he looks. The red guards have been around for awhile now, but this is the first time they look like NERF products - cushy and ready to bounce off your face. My personal preference is that they go back to their roots and stop this post-Alpha red hands nonsense and use the black or brown ones we saw in SF2. In earlier games it looked like he was concealing bathroom tile in them.

05 - RYU LACKS EPIC EYEBROWS

In the original games and most of the Capcom promotional artwork, Ryu's eyebrows are actually bigger than his actual eyes. It isn't only a style issue -- its an effect that makes him look like he's been frowning for the last 30 years to create a brow ramp that can refract the rays from the sun to burn a hole in your face. All the focus, anger, and hatred he carries is channeled right smack in the middle of his brow, almost burdened by the sour look on his face holding it up. They got the mouth right but his chin is also lacking muscles that don't exist (see number 8).


04 - WHY IS RYU'S HEAD UTTERLY GIGANTIC?

Any comic book artist will tell you this: if you want to make a guy look tough, make his head smaller than his shoulders.  This is also common in anime art and a staple on Street Fighter 2 male character design.  Somehow, it was completely missed in IV because the artist was perhaps too preocupied in getting realistic proportions right. The cassava on his shoulders pretty much ruins the entire aesthetic, which beyond specific features such as this and fat legs makes me call to question the entire art direction of the project:

 

03 - RYU WAS CREATED IN THE STYLE OF AN ANIME CHARACTER.  KEEP HIM THAT WAY!

Look, Capcom. One of the primary reasons we loved Street Fighter 2 series was the dynamic range of cool looking anime-style characters that came to life on the screen. Personal preference aside, realistic games like Mortal Kombat couldn't hold a token to the distinctive likes of characters like Ryu, which is amazing because he's just a guy in a karate suit. And yet, unmistakable.

It was the nuances of the character's facial proportions, that exaggerated kabuki-like stoic facial expression, that makes Ryu distinctive. It was the ridiculous muscular build-up, the filthy torn outfit, and the yelling and screaming he produces when you wail on your opponent with him that renders all these things together in an orgy of games-as-art grade epic ass-whipping. The anime roots are completely all but lost in these screenshots due to blasphemous concessions in proportions.

 

02 - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RYU IS NOT NICARAGUAN!

Before I get into why his face looks like utter shit, I'd like to share an inside joke that I'd like to share with you.  When Capcom started localizing Street Fighter for the states they brought on this laughable team of illustrators that completely butchered the character design. Nobody was spared. You probably remember picking up the Street Fighter 2 box for your Super Nintendo praying that the game on the inside did not resemble what they had done to the box on the outside. It was horrible to us, but it seemed that the EGM's of the world seem to be oblivious or at least respectful that it was happening despite how hideous they looked.

 

As kids we had no sophisticated resources or means of explaining this as  so we were left to our own devices. Incidentally, we knew a Nicaraguan guy that went to school with us that looked exactly like the guy in the SF2 SNES manual.  Thus, we coined the term "Nica Ryu" to describe this art style.  I hoped never to see Nica Ryu again after throwing away my instruction manual and graduating, and here he is again! Can we please have him deported once and for all? No offense to Nicaraguans intended, but RYU IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK JAPANESE! STOP THE MADNESS!

 

And last, but certainly not least... 

01 - UGH, MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   WHY PENIS WHY?!!

Seriously Capcom, what the hell were you thinking? While we're all happy to know that Ryu could instantly screw Chun-li if she appeared halfway down the street, we don't need to have his wang in our face when he's in the default fighting stance. I don't mean to rob gay gamers of a full view of this crotch, but seriously, could the  this be moved to a less popular stance 

Would Ryu wear a cup? Probably not. Hell, he's probably commando in those pants and doesn't wear socks or sneakers. But would Ryu not have discipline his penis to not gayly dangle before his opponent like a hypnotic sock puppet? I think so. If everything outlined in this article is is too much to ask, we at least implore you to vanish Sheng Long. Also, cocks. 

Putting my money where my mouth is, I offer you this sloppy Photoshop of all ten fixes badly put together.  This is no job for a blogger, but it would be great if somebody in charge over there at Capcom could beat the art director over the head with it.

 

So there you have it. Poked, prodded, and needlessly over-analyzed we've attempted to quantify what specifically was so horribly generic and off about the Street Fighter IV preview. Even if you're as upset and disappointed about it as we are, the game is still in development and footage of the fighter in action may prove that most of these concerns were addressed ... although I have reason to believe that it will lacks sauce already. 

 

At the very least, I've spoken my peace. What would you change if you could? Be as specific as possible in your comments below as we would like to ultimately invite Capcom to comment.

 

 



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There are 110 comments about this post:
BuckF1tches's Avatar
WHY PENIS WHY?!?!?!
bottled dark's Avatar
i like the issue with the neck:
"doesn't resemble tree enough"
Shin Oni's Avatar
I really don't think it's all that serious to begin with. this coming from an avid SF player.

granted, any serious SF player will prefer gameplay>>>>>>>>graphcis anyday, I only wondered why Ryu's muscles outgrew his pants part of the Gi. I know the guy is like the biggest fighting bum, but looking at his highwater Gi and Ken's baggy Gi, makes you wonder.

otherwise, make his hair longer, touch his face up and he's fine. I mean....these ARE early designs and we have more than a year away from anything big coming.
FuriousGeorge's Avatar
ummmmmm..... they ALWAYS had huge bubble feet...... you guys are dumb other then the belt he looks cool... he does lack the huge bruce lee eyebrows tho....
Direlect's Avatar
Thank God Destructoid isn't in charge of SFIV.
the GAMEGOBLIN's Avatar
EPIC.
A New Challenger's Avatar
That remix is epic and makes me realize why those who hate the new look have a point (or points.)
Cheeburga's Avatar
Yeah.. he looks shitty.
BuckF1tches's Avatar
I especially like this picture which was in the gallery but not in the post...

bottled dark's Avatar
also, thanks for the cammy pic.
bottled dark's Avatar
ok, buck f1tches beat me to it.
madninja's Avatar
Shin Oni is right, when we see the gameplay videos then this will have something and they can always change the look of the game. I know it doesn't look perfect (I am not blind) but I trust the people at 1up that said it was good.
EightBitMav's Avatar
Totally agreed, Niero.

I think it might even look better if they go for a more anime-look all around, ala DBZ. You can TELL Goku is fucking ripped, but he doesn't have tight clothes or whatnot.

If they were willing to mess up our graphics, let's pray they don't destroy our gameplay.
PsychoSoldier's Avatar
The penis section made me laugh my ass off, I agree Niero, penis is not needed.
Cheeburga's Avatar
I do indeed love that remix.
Please send it to capcom.
Necros's Avatar
I think you've hit upon everything wrong with the new graphics, even the stuff I didn't realize. Capcom needs to listen to this.
Necros's Avatar
I think you've hit upon everything wrong with the new graphics, even the stuff I didn't realize. Capcom needs to listen to this.
Edco's Avatar
There are alot of good comments and they certainly make a point with the dubbed up photoshop-- that simple example really hits it! One thing we have not seen is the game in motion, this is kind of a big deal because presumably what we've seen is early works and it is easy to pick apart static images that represent a fraction of realtime play. I'm not saying the look of the game is there yet but you've got to think they have a long way to go, many moons from now perhaps we can compare these screens with what the game finished with. I trust Capcom to do SF right.
F Whipple's Avatar
epic post is epic
bayushi's Avatar
cami pic for the win! chick is fine! :)
Topher Cantler's Avatar
WHY PENIS WHY!!??
vishusdelishus's Avatar
Capcom has always had one of THE best art teams in gaming, let alone media in general. Their illustrators and house style have been revered by many and I am included within that list of people. While I don't totally hate the new design, I do think it could be improved upon.

I trust Capcom! The character designs in Lost Planet were top-notch, and MOST times they really nail them. Have faith people!
vishusdelishus's Avatar
...and for the record his head is still WAY smaller than it should be, judging by the rest of his proportions.

Before I get flamed I worked in comics for a while people.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar
don't like the new look, go play KOF or Guilty Gear if you want anime
Dexter345's Avatar
I like the overall look they've got going, but I agree, the character models are whacked.

I think they should include some of the characters from Street Fighter: The Later Years as a bonus.
Fading_Star's Avatar
Penis? PENIS?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Anyway, good job Niero.

P.S.
What's wrong with Hobbits and Dwarves?
Shin Oni's Avatar
I actually wish SNK went back to their realistic look to the characters. I enjoyed those and the Capcom version they pulled off for the CvS games. Falcoon's art is fine but...it's just fine.
0bshaky's Avatar
NEED MOAR CAMMY!!!
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar
WHY........

PENIS......

WHY........?
Pacman's Avatar
good stuff. I'm not a huge fan of the art so far, but as Shin Oni said, as long as the gameplay is still SF I won't care all that much. That is, unless the game manages to look even worse by the time it comes out
PiKo's Avatar
Cammy is hotness.
Gil's Avatar
Your redesign concept looks terrible.
Niero's Avatar
All good points. Nobody came to a conclusion either in the first impressions post so this is just another exercise for discussing what exactly people found so revolting about the preview. My summation is qualified as not objective before it begins; its just my point of view.
king3vbo's Avatar
Knee Row speaks the truth
Flakor's Avatar
My standard response to fanboy crying is usually: Don't get it if you don't like it, but we all know they ain't gonna do that.
Altair78's Avatar
I think DToid is right...

...

...I also think the person that dressed up like Cammy in the pic above need to head over to my place, quickly...

...

...also cocks...

thank you, GOODNIGHT!
Buster's Avatar
although i dont really like what they've done to ryu or ken, its how chun li looks that determines if im gonna buy the game or not, seeing as thats the only character i will ever play anyway
corneliuscack's Avatar
nice, this article deserves 11 tatsumaki senpuukyaku(s) out of 10.



and they need to bring back chun li's old alpha stage, where mostly everyone in china is riding their bikes in the background.
bluki's Avatar
see.... IV is a bad idea in the first place, and once again ugly 3D is ugly........ fuck you capcom
AKK's Avatar
I have to say, that your sloppy photoshop looks way more badass than the actual model.

Fuck yeah!

Also, cocks... are unnecessary.
Grimspoon's Avatar
I agree with bluki; ugly 3D IS ugly!

SF needs to be a 2D game. 3D just isn't gonna work!
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar
SF IV WILL BE 2d just the models and what not will be 3d
Dhaos's Avatar
WHY PENIS WHY?!?!?!
mispelt's Avatar
Maybe they should put some Cammy cosplay in the final game.
Scrixx's Avatar
Dtoid remix is EPIC
vexed alex's Avatar
And I say you guys bitch more than Paris-fucking-Hilton.

"Street Fighter needs to be a 2D game."

No. Simply because no. I mean, way to stay the same and bore everyone else. I'm already looking forward to the HD Remix of Street Fighter II, so why would I need another. Also, from reading the EGM article, it seems that the developers are trying to keep the game true to it's roots.

I'm in no way concerned about the this game. They have their ear to the wall and are listening to people's complaints. I just hope they ignore all the whiny bitch babies who are crying for sprites. If you want that, wait for the remix or buy III Strike. It's quite simple.

The game is going to play 2 dimensional and they're trying to get more people to play other than the douche bags who want everything to stay the same. This is why Zelda for me, is God awful boring. Why to slow down the creative juices?

Also, the thing about Street Fighter being designed as an anime styled game couldn't be more wrong. The only anime I remember is from Alpha. There's plenty of anime in Dragon Ball Z and Naruto if that's your bag, kids.
DR Mexico's Avatar
PENIS! WHY NOT?
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar
vishusdelishus: Can I get a link to your comic works?
MaxVest's Avatar
Why, Pen, is why.
twentythoughts's Avatar
The Photoshop overdoes it, really... Makes the head look way-tiny. With those proportions, Ryu'd be more the size of Zangief. Just a leeeeettle bigger, and you're fine.
brosef's Avatar
Yeah, about Cammy...daaaaaamn!!!. Endtable ass, FTW.

I can has breakfast off it?
vishusdelishus's Avatar
Hamza:

I'm redesigning my website currently and as such I have nothing online at the moment, however if you look up the 1st 4 issues of The 10th Muse by Image and issues 8-12 of Rising Stars by Top Cow you'll see a lot of my work - I did backgrounds and some inks (occasionally colours too) in these books while in a studio up north. We also did a lot of design work for Hasbro and that's where I was most productive while I was there.

I'll hit ya up with my website when it's complete, definitely before the new year. My blog header was a sketch I decided to colour and I kind of liked it, hence it's header status now.

I accept no responsibility for the otherwise terrible quality of the books hahahaha
IvoryShipping's Avatar
I think that Street Fighter IV should stick to its roots and be completely 2D with very fluid animation and detailed backgrounds, like Guilty Gear XX.
Mr Lazy's Avatar
the lower body of the destructiod version is definitely better but the upper body of the original is better
IMO
bottled dark's Avatar
vishusdelishus
you a fan of infected mushroom?

also: i trust capcom to do what they do.
i'm not going to die if street fighter ends up shitty.
vishusdelishus's Avatar
Bottled Dark:

I know who they are but I had no idea they had an album called Vicious Delicious!! I've been using this aka for a few years now and will demand royalties.

My friend actually named his cat the same thing like 5 years ago so I stole it. Who do I give royalties to?
PrinceofCannedPeaches's Avatar
Yeah, I ask my penis that same question ALL the time. Yeah.

Especially after the Cammy pic - I can has her ass in a frame?
UNDERSTAR's Avatar
I part Nicaraguan, WTF?!?!
mr geo's Avatar
Strange you did make him look better...
DrkAdonis's Avatar
DrkAdonis's Avatar
WHY PENIS WHY?!!
MisterMingo's Avatar
"RYU AND KEN ARE NOT A DWARVES OR HOBBITS"

The feet and hands have ALWAYS been huge in Street Fighter games.

"RYU IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MUSCLES ON TOP OF OTHER MUSCLES"

He looks the same as he always has.

"WHY IS RYU'S HEAD UTTERLY GIGANTIC?"

...It's far too small in your version. How is that not obvious to everyone? A human head is about half the width of the shoulders.

"RYU WAS CREATED IN THE STYLE OF AN ANIME CHARACTER. KEEP HIM THAT WAY!"

He still looks "anime" to me. Besides, "anime" is a group of many many different styles. Berserk, Cardcaptor Sakura, Bleach, Trigun, Inu Yasha, Death Note, and Shin-Chan do not have the same art style.

"UGH, MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY PENIS WHY?!!"

....Okay, I'll give you that one. Next-Gen buldge strikes again!! NNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
danthemagnum's Avatar
Though I do like the placing of the belt in your new remix, I disagree entirely with the argument about his head. He looks kind of stupid with a really small head like you drew him. The head in the above picture is 100x better.
ZekeThePlumber's Avatar
I prefer the Dtoid remixed version over the original, my only gripe is that his new head is a little too small. His fingers shouldn't be able to touch at the back of his head when he grabs his face.

I doubt they're going to change the art direction at this point, but I fear Chun Li's thighs might end up resembling telephone poles than actual legs.
Scape's Avatar
I definitely agree about the anime styling. And the photoshop was amazing.

And why does Ryu have a penis sticking out...
FrankHowley's Avatar
Great post. SFIV looks like it's going to be a huge disappointment.
Capn Birdseye's Avatar
Agree totally with the large wang bulge being totally unnecessary, but I like the new art style.
B-Radicate's Avatar
That chick has a nice ass.

Also, nice article. I agree. They should have stuck to a anime-inspired art design when moving to IV, not this Westernized bullshit.
soul3150's Avatar
That Cammy picture is great. Attention women-folk, more of that.

I really agree on the premise that they are making him look generic-y, the face lacks the dedication to the art that it used to.

And beyond being aesthetically questionable (with the obvious exceptions), a penis on Ryu is pointless. I don't think Ryu has ever had a sexual thought let alone used it for anything but pissing on defeated enemies.

He probably doesn't know what it is, Sheng Long raised him on nothing but fighting, so every time a young, pubescent Ryu got wood Sheng made him stand outside all night holding a razor sharp sword on it. "If you don't use it for fighting it gets cut off!", Sheng would scream. Then Ryu would cry and suppress another memory.

Also, that cat picture is wrong, so I fixed it.

NihonTiger90's Avatar
That Cammy picture is one of my favorites, and as a Cammy fanboy, I support it.

@Niero: We need to battle in SSFIITurboHDRemix when it comes out. It shalt be epic.
Fleet3000's Avatar
god they seriously need to do some crazy ass art editing for this game. i no longer care when the game comes out. i want this to look REALLY good, and classic at the same time. now GET IT RIGHT.
SLiFE's Avatar
Let's just all have another look at that one:



God bless us, every one.
13thDragon's Avatar
Goddamn, that is hands down the best Cammy cosplay EVAR!

MOAR PLZ K THX BYE
Teta's Avatar
God bless asses.
13thDragon's Avatar
Emrah's Avatar
I hope the boots are clean. I am lying, I don't mind at all.

Also, Sandra Bollocks.
Niero's Avatar
Let's please stay on topic. Also:



Spoiler: cammy is a dude. I also found some disturbing adult cosplay sites while researching this story. amazing!
meshal321's Avatar
Oh my god i was so gonna commet on the topic then i saw the cammy damn who is she !!!!

one hour later....
damn she is hot anyway i 100% agree with the article i was so frustrated with the characters ugly 3d design
please droid send this to capcom or make a petition !
MisterDanger's Avatar
the head in the photoshopped one is too tiny IMO. but overall is way better than the capcom sh1t!


ps: MOAR CAMMY PLZ!
0chan's Avatar
if the main character in the game looks shitty what about the other characters, they need to change everything
MisterMingo's Avatar
Again...

1. Ryu's head is proportonate to the rest of his body.

2. He is still "anime" style, just a different "anime" style.

3. People are just bitching for the sake of bitching.

Thank you.
Niero's Avatar
Proportionate is subjective though because he's an anime character. In terms of anime and even comic book standard, his head should be smaller. Maybe not as small as I personally like (highly stylized) but definitely not the mango-sized noggin we see up there. If you look at other games who's design is anime influenced (World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy) and compare it to games influenced by western art (Everquest) you'll see what I mean.
Niero's Avatar
Case and point: Ryu in SFIV currently resembles these proportions:

karnag3's Avatar
When I first heard about SF IV I was all excited for some badass high def 2d artwork. But then I heard it was 3D models and I was like =(
Cyberxion's Avatar
I can't even imagine why this would be that much of an issue, much less to the point where you have to attempt to make jokes about it that only hit the mark over like, three percent of the lot.

That said, that three percent was funny as all hell.
ridley80's Avatar
Umm there was an article here? All I saw was the Cammy pic and went straight to the comments
NihonTiger90's Avatar
@13thDragon: God, I want to Cannon Spike the hell out of that shit.

As for the topic at hand:

Yes, the penis thing sucks, but it's honestly probably just a bad angle. I don't think we're going to be exploring cock physics in SFIV.

The characters look a bit on the unrealistic side, but I will say this: don't expect the final versions to look quite the same, Niero. I think that Capcom is going to be listening to what the Interwebs will say, because let's face it - the real reason they're making this game is for Street Fighter fans like you and me, and if they blow it, they're going to get hell for it.

Really, this seems more like a style change for me, that they want the over-blown, kind of cartoon-like style instead of going super-realistic. I think their heart's in the right place, but I'm not quite sure if they've got it nailed down yet.

But if they put Cammy in this and fuck up her looks... then by the power invested in me by the great states of Michigan and Ohio... I will go absolutely ballistic.
flay's Avatar
HOLY SHIT. WHAT THE HILY FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU.

First of all that "destructoid remix" looks like SHIT. you're head is WAY TOO FUCKING SMALL. take some art classes before you start bitching abour proportions.

I'd wait to see it in motion before I see any more hack bloggers picking this game apart.

also for gods sake take that god damn "where reviews arent for sale" bullshit down. you're making yourselves sound like self righteous douches. and they my as well be for sale with the "informed" bullshit I see on this site.
Tragic Hero's Avatar
Cammy...need more cammy...
ovomii art's Avatar
Why
Penis
WaHaHyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...
ajaxender's Avatar
apart from the face (:P), that 'remix' of ryu looks way better. And this coming from someone who's never played a street fighter game(well... maybe once, when drunk).
Zacks Destructoid User Name's Avatar
yeah I agree, especially the part about his hands bouncing off your face and his hypnotizing crotch.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar
While an interesting post, its all based in worry and fear.

I have faith in Capcom and their design teams. What many of the muppets on here don't seem to realise is that japanese artists, while having a base in human anatomical/life drawing etc, do steep their design work in a very manga mold. Remember, back in the day, they had to sell their games to japanese gamers first, so that mangaesque appeal has to be there to help sales.

This is true of many of Capcom's games.Do check them.

From the screens shown so far, and as an artist myself, the majority of design triats and likenesses of the characters have been kept in 3D quite well, without making them look too real like Tekken or VF, they have fallen, one foot in the manga SF house style and the other in 3D games.

Go back and look at the Alpha designs, because these SFIV designs are obviously taking their cues from those games and building on them. Again they keep that anime/manga feel, and that's important to the series and the fans.

So, give Capcom a break and be glad we are getting SFIV at all. And enough aboout the crotch of a still character (I think many of you picky gamers are seeing what you want to see). Ryu is male and you expect him to have nothing like some bad Disney/WB cartoon character?

If you really wanna see weird SF innuendo, check out one armed bandit Oro's waist rope in SFIII. Now what does that remind you of?
Niero's Avatar
lol flay gets coal for xmas. go punch a wall and GTFO my internets
kevinski's Avatar
Wow...I'm not a Cammy fan, but wow... O_O
kevinski's Avatar
This Elena cosplayer looks pretty awesome.



Elena > Cammy
Wobachuki's Avatar
in character that may be true, but that cosplay looks like she's wearing a diaper and playskool jewelry.
HideousKojima's Avatar
1.)Using Udon drawing for article = EPIC FAIL
2.)Ryu got dark skin in SF 3,because he is a hobo who walks around the world in his tattered Gi.
3.)AWWW,SF2 HD remix,threathened much?
Wedge's Avatar
Aaaaand 100.

Also apparently this stuff is from a really early build, so I dunno... I just can't imagine it will look like this as a final product... I hope...
anomalous_underdog's Avatar
head too small in the shopped one
Big Z's Avatar
Being that I myself have enormous eyebrows I support heartily the demand that Ryu have similarly massive eyebrows. MAKE IT SO.
MrHappySunshine's Avatar
I know this might sound like an odd question but does anyone know if they animated his junk? I mean we've had the bouncy boobs for years now and just curious if they really went into all that detail.
Flakor's Avatar
Its a 2D fighter...with 3D models

It kinda makes sense...
Justice's Avatar
EPIC POST!
Mxyzptlk's Avatar
Great, now I'm going to keep getting distracted by Ryu's dong during SFIV matches.

In the future, more Cammy pics please.