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Save Ryu from looking generic in Street Fighter IV: A fanboy's top 10 wishes photo

You've seen the screenshots. You've discussed trashed them. We've listened. Well, we've done more than that.  Destructoid has aggregated a collection of the top 10 most frequent complaints about Street Fighter IV's look and feel -- including various industry people's gripes -- and have created a minor redesign proposal that hopes to rescue this game from falling into the never-ending pit of generic looking fighting games. 

Is it possible to make all SF fanboys happy? Not a chance in hell.  However, enough specific things were said about Ryu's character model that led us to believe that their present 2D/3D art direction was salvageable if it was more true to the previous game's actual sprites. Is this really necessary? Depends on who you ask. This article is written for the hardcore SF fanboy who were deeply disappointed in the early preview. If you count yourself among their ranks, we would love to have you weigh in on this discussion.

So without further ado, I now temporarily resign myself as a Destructoid editor to effectively go on full-on abusive Ryu fanboy mode after the jump. I'll try to keep the death threats to a minimum. Starting with ...

10 - NOT ALL STREET FIGHTERS SHOP AT INTERNATIONAL MALE

Minor but notable, the departure from the large "flappy" costume to what looks more like low cut tank-top and tight dance leggings. If you can see muscle definition through a set of pants, you're either a porn star or you definitely picked up the wrong size pants. This appears to be the primary result of other more notable bad design decisions, which is our next point:

09 - RYU AND KEN ARE NOT A DWARVES OR HOBBITS

Supposing the pants are the right size, Ryu must have been hitting the rice and beans pretty hard prior to Street Fighter IV. The thickness of the legs on screens that show both him and Ken show child-bearing hips and non-existent shins. The knees are practically on top of the ankles and the feet look like swollen Hobbit hooves. Previous SF games do have stylized exaggerated hands and feet, which are great, but when coupled with fat knees and fat legs it just makes him look like a teapot: short and stout. Please choose one or the other!

 

08 - RYU IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MUSCLES ON TOP OF OTHER MUSCLES

Think Ryu would allow a chest cavity and space between his neck, biceps, and shoulder to remain unused? No way! He would find a way to develop muscles that didn't exist and grow them there. While it seems they nailed the forearms, Ryu's neck should look like a 500 year old Oak tree and his other body parts should look like they are filled with concrete. The chest and shoulders looked particularly wimpy as a result of not allowing muscles to grow on other muscles. Also, his adam's apple should look like a knife.

 

07 - RYU IS A RECTANGLE, NOT A SQUARE

Building on the the muscle-on-muscle concept, giving him a thick waist and narrow shoulders (perhaps due to the horribly disproportionate size of his melon) is a leading factor in why the characters look so generic. Ryu needs to look like could carry two giant lamp posts on his shoulders. The current design looks like he might struggle holding up a boom box. The man looks like he's never done a pull-up and that's just wrong.

 

06 - RYU'S FISTS SHOULD NOT BE SPONSORED BY NERF

Since when is this Street Sparring IV? Ryu's fists need to look like Mack Trucks of Death. The wimpy looking glossy, rubbery hand guards completely pussify how lethal he looks. The red guards have been around for awhile now, but this is the first time they look like NERF products - cushy and ready to bounce off your face. My personal preference is that they go back to their roots and stop this post-Alpha red hands nonsense and use the black or brown ones we saw in SF2. In earlier games it looked like he was concealing bathroom tile in them.

05 - RYU LACKS EPIC EYEBROWS

In the original games and most of the Capcom promotional artwork, Ryu's eyebrows are actually bigger than his actual eyes. It isn't only a style issue -- its an effect that makes him look like he's been frowning for the last 30 years to create a brow ramp that can refract the rays from the sun to burn a hole in your face. All the focus, anger, and hatred he carries is channeled right smack in the middle of his brow, almost burdened by the sour look on his face holding it up. They got the mouth right but his chin is also lacking muscles that don't exist (see number 8).


04 - WHY IS RYU'S HEAD UTTERLY GIGANTIC?

Any comic book artist will tell you this: if you want to make a guy look tough, make his head smaller than his shoulders.  This is also common in anime art and a staple on Street Fighter 2 male character design.  Somehow, it was completely missed in IV because the artist was perhaps too preocupied in getting realistic proportions right. The cassava on his shoulders pretty much ruins the entire aesthetic, which beyond specific features such as this and fat legs makes me call to question the entire art direction of the project:

 

03 - RYU WAS CREATED IN THE STYLE OF AN ANIME CHARACTER.  KEEP HIM THAT WAY!

Look, Capcom. One of the primary reasons we loved Street Fighter 2 series was the dynamic range of cool looking anime-style characters that came to life on the screen. Personal preference aside, realistic games like Mortal Kombat couldn't hold a token to the distinctive likes of characters like Ryu, which is amazing because he's just a guy in a karate suit. And yet, unmistakable.

It was the nuances of the character's facial proportions, that exaggerated kabuki-like stoic facial expression, that makes Ryu distinctive. It was the ridiculous muscular build-up, the filthy torn outfit, and the yelling and screaming he produces when you wail on your opponent with him that renders all these things together in an orgy of games-as-art grade epic ass-whipping. The anime roots are completely all but lost in these screenshots due to blasphemous concessions in proportions.

 

02 - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, RYU IS NOT NICARAGUAN!

Before I get into why his face looks like utter shit, I'd like to share an inside joke that I'd like to share with you.  When Capcom started localizing Street Fighter for the states they brought on this laughable team of illustrators that completely butchered the character design. Nobody was spared. You probably remember picking up the Street Fighter 2 box for your Super Nintendo praying that the game on the inside did not resemble what they had done to the box on the outside. It was horrible to us, but it seemed that the EGM's of the world seem to be oblivious or at least respectful that it was happening despite how hideous they looked.

 

As kids we had no sophisticated resources or means of explaining this as  so we were left to our own devices. Incidentally, we knew a Nicaraguan guy that went to school with us that looked exactly like the guy in the SF2 SNES manual.  Thus, we coined the term "Nica Ryu" to describe this art style.  I hoped never to see Nica Ryu again after throwing away my instruction manual and graduating, and here he is again! Can we please have him deported once and for all? No offense to Nicaraguans intended, but RYU IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK JAPANESE! STOP THE MADNESS!

 

And last, but certainly not least... 

01 - UGH, MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   WHY PENIS WHY?!!

Seriously Capcom, what the hell were you thinking? While we're all happy to know that Ryu could instantly screw Chun-li if she appeared halfway down the street, we don't need to have his wang in our face when he's in the default fighting stance. I don't mean to rob gay gamers of a full view of this crotch, but seriously, could the  this be moved to a less popular stance 

Would Ryu wear a cup? Probably not. Hell, he's probably commando in those pants and doesn't wear socks or sneakers. But would Ryu not have discipline his penis to not gayly dangle before his opponent like a hypnotic sock puppet? I think so. If everything outlined in this article is is too much to ask, we at least implore you to vanish Sheng Long. Also, cocks. 

Putting my money where my mouth is, I offer you this sloppy Photoshop of all ten fixes badly put together.  This is no job for a blogger, but it would be great if somebody in charge over there at Capcom could beat the art director over the head with it.

 

So there you have it. Poked, prodded, and needlessly over-analyzed we've attempted to quantify what specifically was so horribly generic and off about the Street Fighter IV preview. Even if you're as upset and disappointed about it as we are, the game is still in development and footage of the fighter in action may prove that most of these concerns were addressed ... although I have reason to believe that it will lacks sauce already. 

 

At the very least, I've spoken my peace. What would you change if you could? Be as specific as possible in your comments below as we would like to ultimately invite Capcom to comment.

 

 


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Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:44
Joe Burling
WHY PENIS WHY?!?!?!
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:44
bottled dark
i like the issue with the neck:
"doesn't resemble tree enough"
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:45
Shin Oni
I really don't think it's all that serious to begin with. this coming from an avid SF player.

granted, any serious SF player will prefer gameplay>>>>>>>>graphcis anyday, I only wondered why Ryu's muscles outgrew his pants part of the Gi. I know the guy is like the biggest fighting bum, but looking at his highwater Gi and Ken's baggy Gi, makes you wonder.

otherwise, make his hair longer, touch his face up and he's fine. I mean....these ARE early designs and we have more than a year away from anything big coming.
FuriousGeorge's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:46
FuriousGeorge
ummmmmm..... they ALWAYS had huge bubble feet...... you guys are dumb other then the belt he looks cool... he does lack the huge bruce lee eyebrows tho....
Direlect's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:46
Direlect
Thank God Destructoid isn't in charge of SFIV.
A New Challenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:46
A New Challenger
That remix is epic and makes me realize why those who hate the new look have a point (or points.)
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:47
Cheeburga
Yeah.. he looks shitty.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:47
Joe Burling
I especially like this picture which was in the gallery but not in the post...

bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:48
bottled dark
also, thanks for the cammy pic.
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:48
bottled dark
ok, buck f1tches beat me to it.
madninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:50
madninja
Shin Oni is right, when we see the gameplay videos then this will have something and they can always change the look of the game. I know it doesn't look perfect (I am not blind) but I trust the people at 1up that said it was good.
EightBitMav's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:50
EightBitMav
Totally agreed, Niero.

I think it might even look better if they go for a more anime-look all around, ala DBZ. You can TELL Goku is fucking ripped, but he doesn't have tight clothes or whatnot.

If they were willing to mess up our graphics, let's pray they don't destroy our gameplay.
PsychoSoldier's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:53
PsychoSoldier
The penis section made me laugh my ass off, I agree Niero, penis is not needed.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 14:57
Cheeburga
I do indeed love that remix.
Please send it to capcom.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:03
Necros
I think you've hit upon everything wrong with the new graphics, even the stuff I didn't realize. Capcom needs to listen to this.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:03
Necros
I think you've hit upon everything wrong with the new graphics, even the stuff I didn't realize. Capcom needs to listen to this.
Edco's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:05
Edco
There are alot of good comments and they certainly make a point with the dubbed up photoshop-- that simple example really hits it! One thing we have not seen is the game in motion, this is kind of a big deal because presumably what we've seen is early works and it is easy to pick apart static images that represent a fraction of realtime play. I'm not saying the look of the game is there yet but you've got to think they have a long way to go, many moons from now perhaps we can compare these screens with what the game finished with. I trust Capcom to do SF right.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:07
F Whipple
epic post is epic
bayushi's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:11
bayushi
cami pic for the win! chick is fine! :)
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:19
Topher Cantler
WHY PENIS WHY!!??
vishusdelishus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:19
vishusdelishus
Capcom has always had one of THE best art teams in gaming, let alone media in general. Their illustrators and house style have been revered by many and I am included within that list of people. While I don't totally hate the new design, I do think it could be improved upon.

I trust Capcom! The character designs in Lost Planet were top-notch, and MOST times they really nail them. Have faith people!
vishusdelishus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:27
vishusdelishus
...and for the record his head is still WAY smaller than it should be, judging by the rest of his proportions.

Before I get flamed I worked in comics for a while people.
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:29
michiyoyoshiku
don't like the new look, go play KOF or Guilty Gear if you want anime
Dexter345's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:32
Dexter345
I like the overall look they've got going, but I agree, the character models are whacked.

I think they should include some of the characters from Street Fighter: The Later Years as a bonus.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:32
Fading Star
Penis? PENIS?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Anyway, good job Niero.

P.S.
What's wrong with Hobbits and Dwarves?
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:32
Shin Oni
I actually wish SNK went back to their realistic look to the characters. I enjoyed those and the Capcom version they pulled off for the CvS games. Falcoon's art is fine but...it's just fine.
0bshaky's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:44
0bshaky
NEED MOAR CAMMY!!!
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:45
Jonathan Holmes
WHY........

PENIS......

WHY........?
Pacman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:45
Pacman
good stuff. I'm not a huge fan of the art so far, but as Shin Oni said, as long as the gameplay is still SF I won't care all that much. That is, unless the game manages to look even worse by the time it comes out
PiKo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:49
PiKo
Cammy is hotness.
Gil's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:49
Gil
Your redesign concept looks terrible.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:49
Niero
All good points. Nobody came to a conclusion either in the first impressions post so this is just another exercise for discussing what exactly people found so revolting about the preview. My summation is qualified as not objective before it begins; its just my point of view.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 15:57
king3vbo
Knee Row speaks the truth
Flakor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 16:00
Flakor
My standard response to fanboy crying is usually: Don't get it if you don't like it, but we all know they ain't gonna do that.
Altair78's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 16:21
Altair78
I think DToid is right...

...

...I also think the person that dressed up like Cammy in the pic above need to head over to my place, quickly...

...

...also cocks...

thank you, GOODNIGHT!
Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 16:29
Buster
although i dont really like what they've done to ryu or ken, its how chun li looks that determines if im gonna buy the game or not, seeing as thats the only character i will ever play anyway
corneliuscack's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 16:47
corneliuscack
nice, this article deserves 11 tatsumaki senpuukyaku(s) out of 10.



and they need to bring back chun li's old alpha stage, where mostly everyone in china is riding their bikes in the background.
bluki's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 16:55
bluki
see.... IV is a bad idea in the first place, and once again ugly 3D is ugly........ fuck you capcom
AKK's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:03
AKK
I have to say, that your sloppy photoshop looks way more badass than the actual model.

Fuck yeah!

Also, cocks... are unnecessary.
Grimspoon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:04
Grimspoon
I agree with bluki; ugly 3D IS ugly!

SF needs to be a 2D game. 3D just isn't gonna work!
michiyoyoshiku's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:07
michiyoyoshiku
SF IV WILL BE 2d just the models and what not will be 3d
Dhaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:22
Dhaos
WHY PENIS WHY?!?!?!
mispelt's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:27
mispelt
Maybe they should put some Cammy cosplay in the final game.
Scrixx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:31
Scrixx
Dtoid remix is EPIC
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:48
vexed alex
And I say you guys bitch more than Paris-fucking-Hilton.

"Street Fighter needs to be a 2D game."

No. Simply because no. I mean, way to stay the same and bore everyone else. I'm already looking forward to the HD Remix of Street Fighter II, so why would I need another. Also, from reading the EGM article, it seems that the developers are trying to keep the game true to it's roots.

I'm in no way concerned about the this game. They have their ear to the wall and are listening to people's complaints. I just hope they ignore all the whiny bitch babies who are crying for sprites. If you want that, wait for the remix or buy III Strike. It's quite simple.

The game is going to play 2 dimensional and they're trying to get more people to play other than the douche bags who want everything to stay the same. This is why Zelda for me, is God awful boring. Why to slow down the creative juices?

Also, the thing about Street Fighter being designed as an anime styled game couldn't be more wrong. The only anime I remember is from Alpha. There's plenty of anime in Dragon Ball Z and Naruto if that's your bag, kids.
DR Mexico's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 17:52
DR Mexico
PENIS! WHY NOT?
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 18:01
Hamza CTZ Aziz
vishusdelishus: Can I get a link to your comic works?
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 18:37
MaxVest
Why, Pen, is why.
twentythoughts's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/24/2007 18:40
twentythoughts
The Photoshop overdoes it, really... Makes the head look way-tiny. With those proportions, Ryu'd be more the size of Zangief. Just a leeeeettle bigger, and you're fine.
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