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Kind of a bummer, but I'm not to saddened. I do enjoy Smash, but it's fanbase drives me up the wall sometimes. Still, it'll come out eventually, and when it does, it'll sell like kittens covered in crack.
"This is quite a shocking development when you consider that Smash Bros. was perhaps the biggest software announcement Nintendo had at its press conference.."
But it wasn't an announcement though. They never said it was a definite thing. They said it was an idea they were kicking around that had a HUGE and ambitious goal set out for them.. Not only is something like what they were talking about going to take a LONG time to figure out how to do, or if it would really work for them at all, but its pretty obvious that they can't quite be putting that type of man power behind 1 (really 2) games when they don't even seem to have a clue who this console is really even for (since theres been tons of talking in circles about.. well everything).
The company wasn't ready to announce really any games for the console, even ones that are underway, but Iwata starts spouting off about one that isn't really even in development why? Probably because Iwata wasn't seeing the excitement in the room that he wanted. It was to generate hype and it felt adlibbed -simple as that.
Besides, of course Iwata would try to seed the idea that game above all others was coming to their newest console -Brawl was the best selling game for the Wii for how long? Almost its whole cycle, if not most of it?
So no, I'm not surprised one bit and this really shouldn't be shocking to any one.
There was nothing to be had in the comments about it at the conference other then "we're kicking shit around, doesn't this sound like a REALLY good idea guys?!". History dictates that Nintendo plays everything far too close to their chest to honestly make such a sudden announcement for something this big and not having SOMETHING to show for themselves. Shit, it takes them forever to even confirm Mario games are coming, when we all assume they'll be there any way.
But it wasn't an announcement though. They never said it was a definite thing. They said it was an idea they were kicking around that had a HUGE and ambitious goal set out for them.. Not only is something like what they were talking about going to take a LONG time to figure out how to do, or if it would really work for them at all, but its pretty obvious that they can't quite be putting that type of man power behind 1 (really 2) games when they don't even seem to have a clue who this console is really even for (since theres been tons of talking in circles about.. well everything).
The company wasn't ready to announce really any games for the console, even ones that are underway, but Iwata starts spouting off about one that isn't really even in development why? Probably because Iwata wasn't seeing the excitement in the room that he wanted. It was to generate hype and it felt adlibbed -simple as that.
Besides, of course Iwata would try to seed the idea that game above all others was coming to their newest console -Brawl was the best selling game for the Wii for how long? Almost its whole cycle, if not most of it?
So no, I'm not surprised one bit and this really shouldn't be shocking to any one.
There was nothing to be had in the comments about it at the conference other then "we're kicking shit around, doesn't this sound like a REALLY good idea guys?!". History dictates that Nintendo plays everything far too close to their chest to honestly make such a sudden announcement for something this big and not having SOMETHING to show for themselves. Shit, it takes them forever to even confirm Mario games are coming, when we all assume they'll be there any way.
It wasn't even a reveal. It was more of a "we're not working on it yet, but we will eventually" kind of thing. Nothing to get upset about. It's not like he lied, even if he was doing it to build up hype.
I do agree with Sakurai, though, that announcing a game that could be five years away isn't the smartest thing to do.
I do agree with Sakurai, though, that announcing a game that could be five years away isn't the smartest thing to do.
It's not a misleading title when the words came right out of Sakurai's mouth.
Even if the translation is a bit off, it still just reinforces the fact that I think the Wii-U was announced WAAAAYY too early.
They had pretty literally NOTHING to show for it except for a tech video and videos of games running on other systems.
Don't anyone kid yourself and think this system is "only" a year away. You're not going to see it until the holiday season 2012. And half of the launch titles will be games we've already been playing for at least half a year, (or a WHOLE year in the case of Arkham City).
And any way you slice it, announcing games/projects that aren't even STARTED yet is a huge dick move.
Even if the translation is a bit off, it still just reinforces the fact that I think the Wii-U was announced WAAAAYY too early.
They had pretty literally NOTHING to show for it except for a tech video and videos of games running on other systems.
Don't anyone kid yourself and think this system is "only" a year away. You're not going to see it until the holiday season 2012. And half of the launch titles will be games we've already been playing for at least half a year, (or a WHOLE year in the case of Arkham City).
And any way you slice it, announcing games/projects that aren't even STARTED yet is a huge dick move.
That's really stupid. I love how the excuse is that they have too much going on. Really? To me it looks like Nintendo has nothing.
I said this before and I'll say it again: Nintendo is making the same mistakes Sony made with the PS3. The only reason to announce software that isn't even in development is if you're afraid of the competition stealing market share. Where's Agent? How long did it take to get a real trailer for FFvXIII? The same is happening with the 3DS (coughLegends3cough).
I feel sorry for Sakurai because I'm pretty sure Iwata pulled an early announcement on Brawl, making it the second time Sakurai's been pressganged into making a game he hasn't been given the time or resources to make.
@ Dinnertime Ninja
"It's not a misleading title when the words came right out of Sakurai's mouth."
Yeah because internal confusion within a company never happens either.
"It's not a misleading title when the words came right out of Sakurai's mouth."
Yeah because internal confusion within a company never happens either.
Iwata is just fucking everything up these days. The Nintendo board members should never have let him out of his development hole because it's been obvious from day one that he can't handle any sort of management, leadership, or PR roles.
This is wonderful news.
The last thing this world needs is a great game whose innovative design, responsive engine, and amazing physics gets dismantled, and reconstructed into the woefully awful abortion that Brawl was. As far as I'm concerned, Sakurai can stay away from Smash forever and I'd be content.
Give the property to actual game designers like Capcom or the people that made Guilty Gear. You know, people that actually know how to develop a fighting game.
The last thing this world needs is a great game whose innovative design, responsive engine, and amazing physics gets dismantled, and reconstructed into the woefully awful abortion that Brawl was. As far as I'm concerned, Sakurai can stay away from Smash forever and I'd be content.
Give the property to actual game designers like Capcom or the people that made Guilty Gear. You know, people that actually know how to develop a fighting game.
FUCK YOUR SENSASIONALIST HEADLINES! Read the whole thing! He says both the Wii U and 3DS versions will come, it's just that he'll start working on them after wrapping up Kid Icarus development.
FUCK YOUR SENSATIONALIST HEADLINES! Read the whole thing! He says both the Wii U and 3DS versions will come, it's just that he'll start working on them after wrapping up Kid Icarus development.
Sigh...
Its not "No plans" its "No development" BIG DIFFERENCE There are plans, and it will happen, just wont start development until kid Icarus goes gold (as it should)
Its not "No plans" its "No development" BIG DIFFERENCE There are plans, and it will happen, just wont start development until kid Icarus goes gold (as it should)
"This is quite a shocking development"
Not really. Anyone paying attention to what Iwata actually said at the time should have been able to tell that he was talking about some future project that they haven't even started yet.
Not really. Anyone paying attention to what Iwata actually said at the time should have been able to tell that he was talking about some future project that they haven't even started yet.
No surprise. Iwata did this with Brawl. Except not at E3. However, I'm wondering where people got the idea that it was in development, let alone a launch title! I was under the impression that the cross-platform SSB was just a title they were planning to make down the road. Sakurai expressed interest in it, mentioned it to Iwata, so Iwata rolled out the hype train.
But I thought he even basically said during the press conference "Sakurai-san is too busy right now with Kid Icarus, so it's not even being developed."
It'll happen though. And it'll be awesome.
But I thought he even basically said during the press conference "Sakurai-san is too busy right now with Kid Icarus, so it's not even being developed."
It'll happen though. And it'll be awesome.
Actually, the only reason Brawl got made is because he did the same thing to Sakurai before.
Iwata announces it to the world, Sakurai goes "what, what? I wanted to do that other thing!," and then Sakurai has to go make a new Smash Bros so that the world won't be disappointed.
Not kidding.
And I knew that's exactly what was happening when I watched it at E3 this year, too.
I'll gladly wait four years. Do your thing, Nintendo. Whatever it is you think you're doing, do that.
Iwata announces it to the world, Sakurai goes "what, what? I wanted to do that other thing!," and then Sakurai has to go make a new Smash Bros so that the world won't be disappointed.
Not kidding.
And I knew that's exactly what was happening when I watched it at E3 this year, too.
I'll gladly wait four years. Do your thing, Nintendo. Whatever it is you think you're doing, do that.
Someone put the big ol' Nintendo Defense Force Signal in the air so they can flood this thread with reasoning why Iwata's announcement wasn't false advertising of the most unforgivable sort. Nintendo must be real bedfellows with the guys over at Valve. I'm sure I'll see Episode 3 before I die of old age though, right? RIGHT?
Ninty needs to buy up a few more talented developer studios. Ridiculous that we can have a Call Of Doody every year but only one Smash Bros per console generation.
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