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god fucking damn it. i know it will be fun without all that extra crap. but did they really have to do this with my all time favorite game?
i mean i can easily see more clothing, vehicles, weapons etc. it COULD be cool,depending on the stuff they add. especially with the focus on coop.
but sadly once again a 60$ game missing content from the start, to later add DLC to make it 100$ game. 40 weeks, 40 items, 1$ each. i could see that.
i mean i can easily see more clothing, vehicles, weapons etc. it COULD be cool,depending on the stuff they add. especially with the focus on coop.
but sadly once again a 60$ game missing content from the start, to later add DLC to make it 100$ game. 40 weeks, 40 items, 1$ each. i could see that.
Fucking hell, if ever I hear about a developer/publisher using this sort of DLC scheme then I'll just wait two years and play the 'complete edition' or 'game of the year edition' that inevitably follows, for a knock down price, too.
Fallout 3 and Borderlands are the most recent examples of games of this type. Still waiting on Mass Effect 2 though.
Fallout 3 and Borderlands are the most recent examples of games of this type. Still waiting on Mass Effect 2 though.
@fullmetalfox
Even Bethesda don't have 40 releases worth.
Damn, this sit he first news that has stopped me from pre-ordering and will now wait for reviews to see how complete it is. If it is completem then I can pick and choose DLC. If it's not, then I'll grab it used and cheap and never touch a penny of DLC.
Balls in your court THQ. Please don't fuck with the WWE games in the same way.
Even Bethesda don't have 40 releases worth.
Damn, this sit he first news that has stopped me from pre-ordering and will now wait for reviews to see how complete it is. If it is completem then I can pick and choose DLC. If it's not, then I'll grab it used and cheap and never touch a penny of DLC.
Balls in your court THQ. Please don't fuck with the WWE games in the same way.
Would've liked to have read the original article but it requires a registration and login. Not bothering with that at the moment; anyway.
This doesn't say anything about the amount of DLC. It's only the timeframe they're releasing it in. At first glance it reads as if it's intended to be a weekly thing, yet it hasn't been specified.
This doesn't say anything about the amount of DLC. It's only the timeframe they're releasing it in. At first glance it reads as if it's intended to be a weekly thing, yet it hasn't been specified.
A friggin' new DLC 40 weeks out of 52? You know, I was on the fence about picking up The Third up, but now I'm jumping the hell off that fence. So, again, I'm not giving THQ a dime. Good God, pretty soon I won't give any of my money to anybody in the industry :-/
Oh, and whoever tries to say Bethesda does the same thing, they'll generally release 5 packs of DLC for a game that already has 60+ hours of content. THEY DON'T RELEASE NEW DLC ALMOST EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR.
Oh, and whoever tries to say Bethesda does the same thing, they'll generally release 5 packs of DLC for a game that already has 60+ hours of content. THEY DON'T RELEASE NEW DLC ALMOST EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR.
@Hasney, Its not 40 releases, mate. its 40 weeks of DLC. Meaning they will keep adding DLC for at least 40 weeks after the game is launched, which, again, Is not much different from what Bethesda does.
Thanks for the info. I have decided to wait until next year now and buy the Game of the Year Edition when it comes out packed with all of the DLC. With that much DLC, they should make the majority of it free. I can see paying a few bucks over the year for a couple very large content packs, but not 40x.
"With MX vs. ATV Alive, THQ tried to sell a game for $39.99 and then make the rest of the money via DLC. Unfortunately, it didn't do very well. It seems that the publisher will attempt this again with Saints Row, except without the "$39.99" part."
please no. that game was horrendous, underdeveloped, felt like downloadable title and had ridiculously overpriced DLC. it was great idea, but THQ wanted to sell dumbed down product that didn't even felt like budget-priced game.
please no. that game was horrendous, underdeveloped, felt like downloadable title and had ridiculously overpriced DLC. it was great idea, but THQ wanted to sell dumbed down product that didn't even felt like budget-priced game.
I agree Jim, too often developers are pulling shit out of a game to flog it to you later. Every time I hear a developer talking about DLC before the game is even out I want to bang my head on my keyboard :/
Seeing corporate greed invade our passion for gaming has moved past "a cause for worry" Jim, morphed into a damned "shit on a gamer" philosophy of "I can milk a hundred dollar bill total on each copy" with this model.
And to think an entire industry jumped on the bandwagon...And that sir is why "I" won't pay retail for a game, except for Skyrim, since the content is so massive, the dollar per hour value stands tall.
I have enough games that I can pass a few months with , till these drop to $29.99 or a GOTY with all content.
And to think an entire industry jumped on the bandwagon...And that sir is why "I" won't pay retail for a game, except for Skyrim, since the content is so massive, the dollar per hour value stands tall.
I have enough games that I can pass a few months with , till these drop to $29.99 or a GOTY with all content.
Unless a good amount of the DLC is free, I guess I'll be waiting for the inevitable complete edition.
I think calling it "40 weeks" is getting peoples' panties in a bunch. I highly doubt they're talking about slowly unlocking on-the-disc content every week for 40 weeks. They can't be THAT stupid.
As for planning ahead, how is that bad? There are companies (like Bethesda, as has been mentioned) that plan well ahead of the game's launch for DLC. You think the Fallout 3 and Fallout NV expansions were planned, designed, built-out and tested all AFTER the release of the original game? Fuck no, they were being worked on before the original retail release.
As for planning ahead, how is that bad? There are companies (like Bethesda, as has been mentioned) that plan well ahead of the game's launch for DLC. You think the Fallout 3 and Fallout NV expansions were planned, designed, built-out and tested all AFTER the release of the original game? Fuck no, they were being worked on before the original retail release.
Well shit. I guess I'll wait and see what this "extra" content turns out to be, but if it smells at all like "stuff that was stripped out of the game so we could sell it back to you later" content, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
Meanwhile at Capcom HQ -
"...the fuck? Hey, check this shit out. These assholes are trying to out do us! US! Who do they think they are?"
"Bob-san, it's time to initiate Operation Rainfall."
"Huh? So...are we like...publishing those already localized games NOA won't publish? I don't see how-"
"No, you fool! Rainfall refers to the rate as which we release DLC. Constantly. We'll release so much DLC are customers will be soaking wet with options."
"I'm not really feeling that metaphor, but I get where you're going..."
"Good. We will release a piece of DLC every DAY until we release the next version of our game we released the dlc for."
"I like it! So, what are we talking here? Characters? Modes?"
"God damn it! How long have you been working here? You're thinking too small. Think costumes. And color palettes. An endless supply of them."
"But sir, the people will revolt! This is madness!"
"Madness? THIS IS CAPCOM!!!"
*kicks Bob-san off chair*
"Now bring out our secret weapons."
*two figures slowly appear out of the darkness*
"It's good to see you again...Ono-san. I assume your assignment is going as planned?"
"Yes sir. Street Fighter Xtreme Beach Volleyball is on schedule."
"Good, good. And what about you?"
*the room rumbles as noises erupt from the mysterious figure*
"Inafune-san Autotron 3000 re-por-ting for du-ty. Free-to-Play Mega Man Le-gends 3 is armed an operational."
"Mu hu hahahahahaha-"
"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL!"
"No...it can't be! I-It's...it's..."
"That's right. It's Kotick Man to the rescue!"
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
"...the fuck? Hey, check this shit out. These assholes are trying to out do us! US! Who do they think they are?"
"Bob-san, it's time to initiate Operation Rainfall."
"Huh? So...are we like...publishing those already localized games NOA won't publish? I don't see how-"
"No, you fool! Rainfall refers to the rate as which we release DLC. Constantly. We'll release so much DLC are customers will be soaking wet with options."
"I'm not really feeling that metaphor, but I get where you're going..."
"Good. We will release a piece of DLC every DAY until we release the next version of our game we released the dlc for."
"I like it! So, what are we talking here? Characters? Modes?"
"God damn it! How long have you been working here? You're thinking too small. Think costumes. And color palettes. An endless supply of them."
"But sir, the people will revolt! This is madness!"
"Madness? THIS IS CAPCOM!!!"
*kicks Bob-san off chair*
"Now bring out our secret weapons."
*two figures slowly appear out of the darkness*
"It's good to see you again...Ono-san. I assume your assignment is going as planned?"
"Yes sir. Street Fighter Xtreme Beach Volleyball is on schedule."
"Good, good. And what about you?"
*the room rumbles as noises erupt from the mysterious figure*
"Inafune-san Autotron 3000 re-por-ting for du-ty. Free-to-Play Mega Man Le-gends 3 is armed an operational."
"Mu hu hahahahahaha-"
"STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL!"
"No...it can't be! I-It's...it's..."
"That's right. It's Kotick Man to the rescue!"
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Since when does DLC mean a game is going to be incomplete at launch? It means they're ADDING ON content you stupid fucks, not leaving it out. They're trying to continuously support the game and make it worth playing for a long time (which they already did with Saints Row 2, even without DLC) and all you lot do is bitch and say it's a cash grab. Sometimes I wonder why they even bother when 90% of the community are ungrateful, entitled little shits.
anyone that compares these to FO or Borderlands is silly, there DLC are HOURS of content... these DLC added whole new WORLDS to the game...
these are going to be outfits and weapons and missions, not HOURS of game play... ill stake my life on that... i have a bad feeling 80% are going to be irrelevant to making the game longer, the 20% will be add on missions... there not going to give you a new "island" or area, it just going to jam pack more into a single area....
Greed... greed... greed...
these are going to be outfits and weapons and missions, not HOURS of game play... ill stake my life on that... i have a bad feeling 80% are going to be irrelevant to making the game longer, the 20% will be add on missions... there not going to give you a new "island" or area, it just going to jam pack more into a single area....
Greed... greed... greed...
@TurboPhoenix
'Since when does DLC mean a game is going to be incomplete at launch?'
It doesn't, pal. It just means that the possibility is there. You just jumped to conclusions and proceeded to get all angry because, well, you're on the internet. Now sit down, shut up and hang with us 'ungrateful, entitled little sh**s'. Mm-kay? Mm-kay.
'Since when does DLC mean a game is going to be incomplete at launch?'
It doesn't, pal. It just means that the possibility is there. You just jumped to conclusions and proceeded to get all angry because, well, you're on the internet. Now sit down, shut up and hang with us 'ungrateful, entitled little sh**s'. Mm-kay? Mm-kay.
How can anybody possibly knock a developer offering up extra stuff that adds to a game you like so much? I loved Saints Row 2 and would have really appreciated more DLC from that game...not just clothing and such, but new missions. I really hope Volition keeps working on new missions well after Saints Row 3 is released.
However if any of this DLC is simply disc unlocks then I will flame up with rage. Be warned, THQ, Saints Row 3 is your most preordered game ever, don't piss off those people before the game is even released.
However if any of this DLC is simply disc unlocks then I will flame up with rage. Be warned, THQ, Saints Row 3 is your most preordered game ever, don't piss off those people before the game is even released.
Saints Row 3 looks good, but fuck that. I was suspicious when they announced all that Dr Genki stuff was DLC and pre-order bonuses, when the first thing they showed off from their game was DLC you know something is up.
You guys are overreacting. This isn't any different than Map Packs for COD year round. Every Game has a big DLC plan these days. Stop freaking out for no good reason
I think a lot of people are overreacting. I guess it's because of the wording. This just means we'll have about a year's worth of DLC not 40 DLC packs. Think about Borderlands, Fallout, Call of Duty or any other game. A lot of games get DLC for about a year. Everything we've seen so far leads one to believe they're throwing everything they possibly can into this game. SR2 only had a couple packs after release. I just think this means they want to do more.
'Every Game has a big DLC plan these days.'
Your point being...? "But everyone else is doing it!" simply isn't an excuse.
Your point being...? "But everyone else is doing it!" simply isn't an excuse.
@turbopheonix LO-FUCKING-L
The "on the disk but released over a period of 2 months as DLC" costumes for Street Fighter 4 would like a word with you.
While often times DLC and the main game have separate budgets, it is actually fairly common for specific things to be left out so that it can be expanded on further via DLC (as in, they wanted to do something but they figured they could do a better quality job by spending more time on it as a separate project A-LA DLC.) or add-on content that is cut specifically to be DLC such as Costumes, Weapons, or even game modes (Resident evil 5)
The "on the disk but released over a period of 2 months as DLC" costumes for Street Fighter 4 would like a word with you.
While often times DLC and the main game have separate budgets, it is actually fairly common for specific things to be left out so that it can be expanded on further via DLC (as in, they wanted to do something but they figured they could do a better quality job by spending more time on it as a separate project A-LA DLC.) or add-on content that is cut specifically to be DLC such as Costumes, Weapons, or even game modes (Resident evil 5)
Well, that makes waiting for the inevitable "GOTY" edition sold at a discount or at least with all the DLC included a much more viable option. I'll take Battlefield 3 and Skyrim this Fall, please. SR3 just moved to "wait" territory.
Yeah, this could go either way. I'd be more interested if they offered one of those new-fangled "Season Passes" at a reasonable price. I'm definitely not in the mood to be nickel-and-dimed for tons of small DLC packs.
I hate when games have day 1 DLC. All that means is they wanted to charge extra for content that should have been in the game in the first place. On disk DLC is even worse.
Honestly, I don't care. Saints Row 2 was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever played for the sheer insanity of it and it actually had good solid gameplay to back the craziness up. So I'm willing to put up with this for Saints Row The Third, also I'd like to point out that it wasn't stated that all of that DLC would have to be paid for. Hopefully some of it will be freebies, I think that'd be the ultimate way to keep people hooked. Promise them a lot of DLC and make a good portion of it free.
The only surprise is that 40 weeks implies a large volume of DLC. We've already had years of companies planning lots of expensive DLC. And years of companies holding back for DLC release things that previously would have been regular game content.
This isn't even the first game to plan months of DLC releases. Marvel vs Capcom 3 was going to do a bunch of DLC character releases. The only reason UMvC3 is seeing release is because Capcom's DLC plans were derailed by the Japan earthquake. (And in the end, people will save money because UMvC3 will cost less than the combined DLC price would have been.)
Capcom is also selling alternate color palettes for SF3:TSOE, which is a complete joke. $3 for predesigned color schemes in a port of a decade old fighter, when the norm before was to include a free color editor. Heck, people you play online won't even see your $3 purchase unless they make the same purchase themselves, because Capcom isn't even bothering with a compatibility pack.
Koei, the masters of excluding content to justify their expansion discs, is selling co-op story for Dynasty 7 in its XL expansion?
The president of Vicious Cycle posted that they wanted to release the alien mothership battle as DLC for Insect Armageddon? The battle that the game was leading up to, but didn't actually happen.
This isn't even the first game to plan months of DLC releases. Marvel vs Capcom 3 was going to do a bunch of DLC character releases. The only reason UMvC3 is seeing release is because Capcom's DLC plans were derailed by the Japan earthquake. (And in the end, people will save money because UMvC3 will cost less than the combined DLC price would have been.)
Capcom is also selling alternate color palettes for SF3:TSOE, which is a complete joke. $3 for predesigned color schemes in a port of a decade old fighter, when the norm before was to include a free color editor. Heck, people you play online won't even see your $3 purchase unless they make the same purchase themselves, because Capcom isn't even bothering with a compatibility pack.
Koei, the masters of excluding content to justify their expansion discs, is selling co-op story for Dynasty 7 in its XL expansion?
The president of Vicious Cycle posted that they wanted to release the alien mothership battle as DLC for Insect Armageddon? The battle that the game was leading up to, but didn't actually happen.
Jim, let me show you something that's had a lot of us on the saints row forums very nervous and even got some of us banned for the mere act of mentioning it.
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/557737-saints-row-the-third-will-come-packed-with-a-lot-of-dlc/
they're planning to sell CHEATS as DLC.
with this much DLC they may as well give SR3 away at no cost, but seriously? CHEATS AS DLC?! When they were already included in SR2 and SR1? They also want to sell the VTOL as DLC, and so much Clothing as DLC. And even a bunch of Co-Op features as DLC. Even gameplay changing things as DLC...
Seriously? this is ludicrous and entirely believable at the same time. Still, it's not as bad as Modern Warfare 3's "15 dollars for 3 maps" policy
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/557737-saints-row-the-third-will-come-packed-with-a-lot-of-dlc/
they're planning to sell CHEATS as DLC.
with this much DLC they may as well give SR3 away at no cost, but seriously? CHEATS AS DLC?! When they were already included in SR2 and SR1? They also want to sell the VTOL as DLC, and so much Clothing as DLC. And even a bunch of Co-Op features as DLC. Even gameplay changing things as DLC...
Seriously? this is ludicrous and entirely believable at the same time. Still, it's not as bad as Modern Warfare 3's "15 dollars for 3 maps" policy
This game just went from my most anticipated titles, to I don't give a shit if I play it or not. WTG THQ.
It has already been stated by the community manager of Saintsrow.com that the game will be complete. The DLC in question is not being held back from the full game. This 40 weeks of DLC will be add-ons, car packs, extra missions, etc.
Nothing freakout over people.
Nothing freakout over people.
@Jeffrey Warf: Thanks for the link. The news is quite disturbing indeed. Costumes, cheat codes, Co-Op mode (WTF?) all appear to be day one DLC. Hopefully they will be priced reasonably (80-160 pts). I REALLY wanted to play this on day one, but now I'm not so sure. If this news is true, I will wait for a price drop (I'm sure black friday will have some deals on this). Since the Professor Genki pre-order bonus will be DLC anyways, I just may wait til the game is under $40 and just really dig into Skyrim.
Even if it is under developed I can guarantee from what they have showed so far it will keep my friends and I occupied doing stupid shit for hours. The DLC even if it is clothing keep in mind, they aren't forcing you to buy it. Let them put it out. As long as they give me a complete product who cares. I'll pick and choose the DLC I want to buy if I buy any at all.
Either the game isn't finished or the 40 weeks include things like bonus guns. If that's the case, why even call it 40 weeks?
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