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In terms of sheer quality of the experience, the durp-dee-durr sense of humor is no match for the snappy satire of the GTA universe. However from a controls and gameplay standpoint, it's a wide open game. The GTA series has generally had wonky controls that only work because you get sucked in long enough to learn how to use them. The saints row controls made sense as soon as you jumped into it, they were on par with the best of third person shooters, like Gurrs of Wurr without cover.
I loved saints row, but purely because it was trying too hard. It was a decent game that was made fun because it stereotyped everything about gangs and games. Well... until I played online and had to listen to people talk as if they were str8 from the g-hetto popin caps in assez..... Then I remembered why I hate people.
I liked Saints Row. It was a shameless GTA clone, but it had some brilliant ideas like the Insurance Fraud and an aiming system that was far better than GTA's one. That's why I'm happy a sequel is coming, but I wonder why they felt the need to change the aiming system AND why GTA4 didn't borrow the one from the first SR... Anyway, I'm pretty confident I'll play and enjoy both games.
The aiming system was great, but face it, we all LOVED the GPS style driving instead of looking for a familiar building to turn left at.
I couldn't get into Saints Row but then again I could never finish a GTA. My old roommate played the shit out of Saints Row. At least they have confidence I suppose.
As long as they bring back Freckle Bitch's, I'll welcome a sequel. Actually, I probably won't play either of these games, but that's just personal preference.
Saint's Row definitely can't beat an established name like GTA, but in terms of sheer gameplay mechanics; GTA plays like SR retarded little brother. I can't say anything about GTA4 until I play it though.
After watching the trailer for GTA4, I just can't BELEAVE they did not add a char creation system. Which is why it would be more likely for me to pick this up then GTA.
Saint's Row was a fun game and a nice *cough*temporary*cough* till GTA4 came out. 3 Years later and no SR followup until GTA4 is priming to come out and it looks like the developers of SR dropped the window of opportunity they had to release another title and establish themselves a bit with the Xbox community. GTA4 will crush it but it's likely that I still play both.
No one can deny that Saint's Row did some things right. They improved the aiming, they had much more customization than any GTA game before it, and they were the first game of this type to have true multiplayer (although it was deathmatch and not co-op, and no the girlfriend missions in San Andreas don't count 'cause those were lame and I know no one who played them).
As far as the humor and story telling, okay, it was a little trite. But from what I've seen it appears they have listened to the criticism and are fixing pretty much everything, so I'm sure the story and writing will get a similar upgrade.
Will it be better than GTAIV? Doubtful. Will it be a fun experience with lots of fun to be had? Quite.
As far as the humor and story telling, okay, it was a little trite. But from what I've seen it appears they have listened to the criticism and are fixing pretty much everything, so I'm sure the story and writing will get a similar upgrade.
Will it be better than GTAIV? Doubtful. Will it be a fun experience with lots of fun to be had? Quite.
GTA will most definitely sell better than SR2 no matter what they try... But I'll probably end up playing both titles... I don't think I'll buy SR2 but I will definitely buy GTA IV.
@Neonie
We all know they aren't adding your oblivion style furry character creation anytime soon. lol
We all know they aren't adding your oblivion style furry character creation anytime soon. lol
Neonie, we haven't seen multiplayer yet from gta4 who knows? There may be a character creation system in.
Gta4 is the reason im picking up an xbox soon, I've been a fan of the series since 97 and every new installment of the series was phenominal. Part 4 is looks like another winner from all the previews.
Gta4 is the reason im picking up an xbox soon, I've been a fan of the series since 97 and every new installment of the series was phenominal. Part 4 is looks like another winner from all the previews.
Personally, I see myself getting both. There is enough of a gap (aprox 8 months) that I can afford it. I enjoyed the first game's tight controls and plethora of extra things to do (Who here didn't enjoy insurance fraud) and I can see why the respect model is used.
Does this make the game perfect, no. But I'm a sucker for sandbox games. That's why two of my favorite games on the 360 are Crackdown and Saints Row (combined with Bioshock and Mass Effect)
Does this make the game perfect, no. But I'm a sucker for sandbox games. That's why two of my favorite games on the 360 are Crackdown and Saints Row (combined with Bioshock and Mass Effect)
I bet somewhere ar t Rockstar's offices the GTA dev team is playing Saints Row for "Shits and Giggles".
I like how every single person has the same comment here.
In terms of gameplay and control, Saints Row was worlds better than GTA.
In terms of story, GTA really took the cake. Then again, I hated San Andreas. Really really enjoyed Vice City.
In terms of gameplay and control, Saints Row was worlds better than GTA.
In terms of story, GTA really took the cake. Then again, I hated San Andreas. Really really enjoyed Vice City.
Speaking as someone in loathing of the way GTA has been treating its story and gameplay mechanics -- searching for so-called "immersion" instead of giving the player what they want (a portable MP3 player, fun side missions, the ability to permanently save your cars) -- Saint's Row 2 is easily higher on my hype-wagon than GTA4 has ever been.
Also, if you experience Saint's Row's story in the sense that it's meant to be an overblown mockery of the modern cowboys-and-indians gang warfare culture in a "what if suburban white kids' idiotic perception of street gangs actually were the case?" sort of way, it instantly becomes a masterwork in modern storytelling. Just sayin'.
Also, if you experience Saint's Row's story in the sense that it's meant to be an overblown mockery of the modern cowboys-and-indians gang warfare culture in a "what if suburban white kids' idiotic perception of street gangs actually were the case?" sort of way, it instantly becomes a masterwork in modern storytelling. Just sayin'.
After playing GTA3 to death on the Xbox, i thought i really couldn't get into another sandbox game other then the GTA franchise. When i got my 360, and needed my GTA fix, i gave in and bought SR when word was anounced GTA would take another year.
And, low and behold, i really liked the game. Production values were high, gameplay was fine (even with its faults), and overall it was a pleasant experience. I finished the game, but will get back to it to get all the achievements as soon as my dead 360 returns...
So, bring on SR2. I'll give it a try.
And, low and behold, i really liked the game. Production values were high, gameplay was fine (even with its faults), and overall it was a pleasant experience. I finished the game, but will get back to it to get all the achievements as soon as my dead 360 returns...
So, bring on SR2. I'll give it a try.
Saint's Row was a great game, I'm very much looking forward to the sequel. It improved upon the GTA "formula" in just about every respect, aside from story which was just ok. I tried playing San Andreas after completing SR and I couldn't stand playing it for more than 5 minutes. SR shows you just how busted the GTA3 games were.
That said, GTAIV looks to not just improve on GTA3, but to take the game in whole new directions. I think SR2 will continue improving on the original formula, while GTAIV will attempt to be something different. GTAIV will obviously sell better than SR2, but I see no reason why both can't exist at the same time. I think SR2 will meet the sales expectations. I'll be picking up both.
-side note, I've been curious if GTAIV would "borrow" elements from SR, like the gps system, portable mp3 player, improved radar, etc. From what I read in the most recent EGM, they did include a lot of those elements. Competition ftw. We're all benefitting from SR whether you liked that game or not. The targetting system in GTAIV, sadly, does not work like SR though. It's pretty similar to the GTA3 aiming system, at least in the current build EGM played.
That said, GTAIV looks to not just improve on GTA3, but to take the game in whole new directions. I think SR2 will continue improving on the original formula, while GTAIV will attempt to be something different. GTAIV will obviously sell better than SR2, but I see no reason why both can't exist at the same time. I think SR2 will meet the sales expectations. I'll be picking up both.
-side note, I've been curious if GTAIV would "borrow" elements from SR, like the gps system, portable mp3 player, improved radar, etc. From what I read in the most recent EGM, they did include a lot of those elements. Competition ftw. We're all benefitting from SR whether you liked that game or not. The targetting system in GTAIV, sadly, does not work like SR though. It's pretty similar to the GTA3 aiming system, at least in the current build EGM played.
saints row is totally fun, i play it lots, i also like it better than previous gtas....
but.... gtaiv is gtaiv... sorry guys youre done
but.... gtaiv is gtaiv... sorry guys youre done
Is saints row a knock off? sure. Is it a great game in it's own right? Hells yeah.
I loved SR, and it was a unique experience from modern GTA games that made it well worth the time and money.
Plus the drive by system and GPS were waaay better than anything GTA:SA had to offer.
I loved SR, and it was a unique experience from modern GTA games that made it well worth the time and money.
Plus the drive by system and GPS were waaay better than anything GTA:SA had to offer.
@ Jim Sterling;
I Lolled at the subtitle in the image. :O)
Btw, I'm not really that interested in Saint's Row. GTA yeah, but Saint's Row, I can't be bothered.
I Lolled at the subtitle in the image. :O)
Btw, I'm not really that interested in Saint's Row. GTA yeah, but Saint's Row, I can't be bothered.
I grew bored of GTA but Saints Row rekindled my love for GTA and the new kid on the block, Saints Row.
I don't know about you but I freaking LOVED the voice over work on Saints Row. All of the swearing and the hilariously funny lines in the game (I'm looking at you Escort Missions) and more. Still, I will get both
I don't know about you but I freaking LOVED the voice over work on Saints Row. All of the swearing and the hilariously funny lines in the game (I'm looking at you Escort Missions) and more. Still, I will get both
All I know about Saints Row 2 is the, supposedly, you can somehow start the game as a girl, since they gave you an operation or something. That just seems weird to me. I also don't care to cite where I heard that.
I agree with Wings In Motion, people need to learn the meaning of Tongue in Cheek.
Saints Row had a great story and great mechanics that didn't put me off the whole game like San Andreas.
GTA 4 is going to be an amazing game though and you'd pick it everytime due to production values alone but as has been said before, there's a massive gap between the releases so it's pretty irrelevant anyway.
Saints Row had a great story and great mechanics that didn't put me off the whole game like San Andreas.
GTA 4 is going to be an amazing game though and you'd pick it everytime due to production values alone but as has been said before, there's a massive gap between the releases so it's pretty irrelevant anyway.
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