I actually heard that Saints Row fixed a lot of problems that GTA still hasn't addressed, even if it was a blatant rip-off.

i liked saints row.

it was a gta clone sure, but it was fun.

Yay! More buggy beneath-the-city free roaming!

They had better get this out before GTA4 or it'll be goin' directly to the bargain bin. That said, Saints Row is a platinum title now, so a lot of people will have played it recently..... It might sell a coupla thousand copies i spose.

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Saint's Row did a lot of new stuff and it did a lot of old things wrong. So I guess it is a little up in the air right now, but I would put money on GTA4 being better but SR2 being acceptable.

The gunplay was improved over GTA, granted, but I'm sorry, as a whole package, I found Saints Row almost pathetic. Its contexts were shallow and awful and frankly did more to disservice games than Rockstar ever did. While GTA is far from intellectual, its satire and style placed it above the "lol pimps. lol drugs" theme that Saints Row went for.

And frankly, cruising the streets in GTA has always been more fun. It's a much better realized world than the one Saints Row had. Even the radio stations were far more enjoyable than the pale attempts at mimicry that played on Saints Row.

Saints Row basically played the part of "Xbox 360 GTA clone that holds me over until March of next year."

Now that Saints Row 2 is coming out around the same time as GTA IV I'll have no need to buy it. GTA IV is king.

I haven't played SR, so perhaps my mind is more open to the sequels potential. It might not be a GTA killer, but I'd still like to see what is improved upon this time round. Be funny if both were good.

the original improved on some gameplay mechanics but lacked the polish, flair, and parody that R* has with its GTA games. it filled the void for an open-world next-gen sandbox game. however, with GTAIV coming out nearly at the same time now as SR2... it's GTA all the way.

I would say that GTAIV will be a better overall game than Saint's Row 2. But still, the original Saint's Row was a lot of fun and in my opinion did a lot of things quite well.The aiming and shooting elements put GTA to shame, and it included multiplayer, which a lot of people still play to this day.
I'm glad they're both around. Competition in the sandbox genre is a good thing. And.. you can always buy them both.

Motorcycles included in 2? Great to see it.

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Sign me on the list of people who actually like Saints Row.

It fixed a lot of the gameplay mechanics that Rockstar refused to sort out even after selling bajillions of copies of the first two 3D GTA's.

Yeah, the story was balls and the radio generally forgettable. But it was most definitely more fun than GTA from an actual 'hey I've got a controller and want to play a game' perspective.

When i first read the original article i thought i must be one of the few who enjoyed saints row but now i see alot of people liked it. I agree that GTA is closer to my heart but i liked alot of thing's that saints row did and i definatly dont agree with the OP but opinions are a dime a dozen am i rite?

I personally thought Saint's Row did a lot of things right that GTA should have been doing by the second or third game in the series.

SR nailed the gunplay perfectly. Free roam aiming was amazing and actually required SKILL to get the job done and not LUCK. Had GTA ever had a serviceable lock-on system it wouldn't have been an issue, but everyone has to admit that system failed hundreds of times over the course of each game. Total fail.

Plus, SR got the whole customization thing down to a tee. I don't know how many cars I pimped out in GTA:SA and saved in a garage after blowing thousands of virtual dollars only to have the garage glitch and "eat" my car, never to be seen again. The whole idea you could access your cars from any garage AND keep a couple dozen despite the actual size of the garage was ingenious. Not to mention going to stores and plastic surgeons to switch up your look every so often was quite enjoyable and didn't require stupid gym minigames to accomplish it.

One of my biggest gripes with the GTA games has always been their horribly boring "side missions." I'm sorry, but driving an ambulance, taxi, or police car around can only be so entertaining across three separate games. Ooo wow, you introduced pizza delivery, EXACTLY what I wanted. No one can deny that SR's side missions were FAR more enjoyable and offered much more variety. Plus the fact you could rob any store at night just for kicks and turn that in and of itself into a side mission was great.

To top this argument off not many people apparently recall that SR was also the first open world GTA-esque game to nail the online multiplayer. Granted, the game was glitchy and full of lag for a few weeks after release, they eventually released some patches and cleared up the issues for the most part (at least time I played it was fine). And although the multiplayer wasn't within the context of the actual city it was still enjoyable and the cash rewards system was incentive enough to keep playing to further pimp your online character.

I don't understand the hate on SR. I'll be the first to admit I'm a GTA fan at heart, but I'm also objective enough to realize where and how GTA got beaten at its own game (no pun intended). SR did some things better than GTA, even if the "flavor" of the world itself was not your style. The execution was sub par in certain aspects but then again what game of such scope and complexity doesn't have some issues. The GTA games were certainly never without fault, that's for sure.

I am confident that SR2 will provide a much better overall experience than the first and I believe it will do so well enough to bolster the free roam gameplay market. I'm glad to see GTA will have some competition, cause frankly, GTA:SA was horribly executed. The series was practically turning into an EA franchise. Competition will be good for everyone, especially we the gamers.

The first Saints Row wasn't horrible...just a nice "play it and forget it" type of game. One would hope the sequel will improve on the original, but who knows...