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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 to get always-on DRM photo

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, sequel to one of the most tense and hardcore shooters on PC, will be adopting the controversial "always-on" DRM scheme. Following in Ubisoft's tracks, GSC Game World will demand a constant online connection to verify copies of the game aren't stolen.

"Protection from piracy? Part of the content will be located on the server and downloaded as the game progresses. Permanent internet access is required," revealed studio head Sergey Grigorovich in an interview. "Text information, code and quests will be loaded through that connection.

"Software piracy is an issue for us, we try to fight it, but within reason. If people can not afford a licensed version, it is to our advantage if they download a pirated copy, and then want to buy a license. In Ukraine, there are different products that people love so much that they buy a license in principle. We want to create just such a product."

Getting people to love your game enough to buy a license is going to be harder when you put in DRM with a known history of pissing off large chunks of the audience. I can't say it fosters much love when I need to keep "checking in" with a company, like a criminal on parole. 

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Will Have Always-On DRM [Gamespy, thanks de5gravity]








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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:03
Chris Carter
Fuck you, GSC Game World.
Chris Creo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:03
Chris Creo
I got the first one for $0.99 and never played it
ihateemo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:06
ihateemo
The first game was pretty remarkable in its scope. I really want a console release though. :(
Spaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:06
Spaz
Well fuck, ah well instant bargain bin for me.
Fugly Duckling's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:15
Fugly Duckling
So they're storing game data on a server that's going to be accessed by thousands of gamers all at once? I'm sure glad there's not a community who likes to break into computers and steal information....

As for me, I'll wait until they inevitably strip out the DRM.
Twosixteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:15
Twosixteen
Oh... look at that No Sale go!
Raigen's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:16
Raigen
They can keep it with shit like this. You wanna counter piracy? Release a fucking game that is worth its money!
Isshak Ferdjani's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:17
Isshak Ferdjani
I did not realize Stalker was that big of a franchise that they could afford to do this and still expect sales
haemogoblin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:17
haemogoblin
I'll hold off buying this until it gets patched out.

Also, with GSC Game World releases being very buggy at launch I can only see this causing unnecessary hardship for legitimate buyers.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:19
Scuffles
Cram game with always-on DRM, Game fails to meet sales projections... continue to blame pirates for poor sales. Great plan!

also Planned obsolescence FTMFW, In two years you can just yank the content servers siting that the game is no longer cost efficient to run... But you can buy ESS TEE AY ELL KAY EEE ARR 3 for the low low price of (insert not low low price here)
TheNephilym's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:20
TheNephilym
What's the point in protecting your game from being pirated when you're killing your legitimate sales in the process? The best internet I can get is pure shit. It cuts in and out throughout the day. So fuck any game that requires a constant connection. I don't care what it is.
Gorescream's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:21
Gorescream
@Chris Creo

lmfao same
Sæglópur's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:25
Sæglópur
Confirmed: Bargain Bin Buy!

This'll ultimately get patched out and be dirt cheap.
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:26
M47R1X
So... do I want to put up with the worst DRM in modern history in order to play a buggy game that may or may not be good?

Freakydemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:28
Freakydemon
@de5gravity
It isn't and that is going to hurt em a lot, seeing as the only people who buy this game are from the hardcore gaming scene, who read news and know about this kind of shit. This is gonna break 'em...
Ace829's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:28
Ace829
I might have been interested in this game now that I know it exists, but always-on DRM kills it for me. No sale.
Scuffles's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:28
Scuffles
@Sæglópur
"Part of the content will be located on the server and downloaded as the game progresses."

Its one thing turning off always-on DRM .... its another thing patching whatever you didn't put in the base install back into the game. Who knows exactly what they didn't bother putting in the game. Or how much phone home code will have to be rewritten.

I wouldn't even bargain bin this game. Hell I wouldn't even crazy holiday steam sale this game.
80s's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:32
80s
They should just sell their game through OnLive. That way, the only way to play the game would be online via OnLive. At least it would only be a small dick-slap in the face of paying customers instead of having your skull cracked on impact from DRM's mighty arse-ripper.
Boom-Shakalaka's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:33
Boom-Shakalaka
So essentially the "drm" is in fact holding key parts of the game hostage until you can "download" it from their servers. So on top of the $40-$50 price range I'll also have to contend with either my internet crapping out mid-download or going over my bandwidth (and costing me an extra fee).
Mike Bid's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:36
Mike Bid
This is a game I would love to see coming to the consoles, the first got great reviews, but my pc cannot handle the processing power needed to run it smoothly. I the mean time i am off to see if i can win something on <a href="http:madbidreview.com">madbid</a> hopefully I will get lucky
sqlrob's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:39
sqlrob
I think you hit it on the head @80s. Forget any pretense of trying to sell it, just stream it.
Football Religion's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:42
Football Religion
No no no no. This is the best PC game I've ever played... don't do this or I WILL pirate it. I gladly bought Clear Sky and Call of Prypiat on the day of release... but no more DRM shit.
Pwnshale's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:44
Pwnshale
There is a very good reason why Ubisoft hasn't made a dime off of me since Assassin's Creed (1).
RedWinters's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:44
RedWinters
I heard this was an interview from 2009 and that this probably wont hold true.
Dragoonkin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:45
Dragoonkin
Instant no-buy. Not only forcing me to be online, but also holding pieces of my game hostage.

If you want me to have to be connected to your servers downloading game information all the time, make it multiplayer. Otherwise shove off.
John B's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:47
John B
Well, so much for that sale.
krimey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:49
krimey
Why are you using the word stolen, Jim? Anyways this sucks.
Smo5000's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:50
Smo5000
Bleh, DRM is taking over. This Big Brother video game shit is getting stupid.

From japanese girls being chained to 3DS consoles to probation checks for playing a game, the video game industry is getting fuckin weird. What next, retnal-scans upon purchase of a game?
D-roy's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:53
D-roy
Piracy wins again.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:53
pokota
"You wanna counter piracy? Release a fucking game that is worth its money!"

Why do people say this? I see the same thing in the used game discussions, too. The increased quality of the game means MORE people will pirate it, not less.

On topic, I rarely pitch a fit about DRM. It's the right of the company to fight illegal access how they see fit, just as it's my right to not buy a product containing DRM that I don't want to deal with. This withholding code thing seems kind of off, though. What kind of code? Quests and text I can somewhat understand; that doesn't sound like it would ruin your game if you got knocked offline. The "code" thing I'd have to know more about.

I'm not in the childishly entitled "I'll pirate it out of spite" camp, but if that withholding code deal means a dropped connection would immediately kick me from the game and kill progress, then I would definitely consider some type of crack.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:54
Johnny Justice
80s: No way. OnLive is only available in the US and UK.
Bluj162's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:55
Bluj162
At least the first games were good...
Drakengard's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 10:56
Drakengard
Wow. You just convinced me to NOT buy your game.
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:05
PalinRMA
No buy and I have the other S.T.A.L.K.E.R games. Always-on DRM always fails, this game still not sell, thanks for thinking about your PC fan base that made your studio big with this crap.
PalinRMA's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:11
PalinRMA
Pwnshale
There is a very good reason why Ubisoft hasn't made a dime off of me since Assassin's Creed (1).


Second!
Rehykja's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:19
Rehykja
Welp, thanks GSC Game World for making my decision not to purchase easy.
bustaballs's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:35
bustaballs
Sucks to be them. They won't get my money.
Eoin ODoherty's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:39
Eoin ODoherty
It's kind of odd how he almost condoned piracy there...
Mist17's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:45
Mist17
GSC why
Capt 133t's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:45
Capt 133t
To me "Always On DRM" is like having to keep a receipt for a product you've bought. Then having to show a receipt to the manufacturer any time you wanted to use the product.
hardy83's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:47
hardy83
The funny part is that most of the people complaining HAVE Internet that never disconnects.

It would be like having your 360/PS3 always checking to see if you have a disc in the system. WHAT!? This is outrageous!
Leon Field's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 11:50
Leon Field
Oh, so I'm not buying the next STALKER on pc then.
Master Snake's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:00
Master Snake
It's clear that hardy83 doesn't get it...
Commandant Oreo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:07
Commandant Oreo
I don't mind DRM such as this, but internet isn't as common as water yet so I can't support this. Plus this cripples gaming on the move,.
Sicminded's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:09
Sicminded
With so many other games coming out, why give me a reason NOT to buy your game?
32BitSin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:20
32BitSin
Meh.
32BitSin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:27
32BitSin
[url]https://www.facebook.com/pages/STALKERs-Against-STALKER-2-Being-DRM/179847772094442[/url]
32BitSin's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:28
32BitSin
it's boken... :(
Baines's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:40
Baines
@Cryotek
I bet if the book is sold digitally, it will have some form of DRM.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/08/2011 12:48
pedrovay2003
A single player game that needs to be online AND can't be cracked to future-proof it?

No.
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