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Rumortoid: new Xbox 360 motherboards 'Opus' and 'Valhalla' photo

While we've been hearing rumblings of new Xbox 360 motherboards and chipsets, we haven't come across anything solid yet. While not verified, the information from 8bit Joystick is definitely interesting, and if it's right, we'll see two new motherboard/chipset configurations for future Xbox 360s.

You probably already know about the Xenon (original), Zephyr (Elite) and Falcon (current, with a 65 nm CPU) chipsets, and there's also a Jasper, which hss both a 65 nm CPU and a 65 nm GPU. Now we hear about the "Opus" and "Valhalla" -- wow, what epic names.

8bit Joystick describes the rumored Opus to be a Falcon generation motherboard designed to fit in a Xenon case, sporting a 90 nm GPU and a 65 nm CPU. Why would they do that? They say it might be a recycling measure, which would put these new mobos in the casings of old RROD'd systems. How Eco-friendly -- frankenboxes! They add that since the original launch Xbox 360 had no HDMI port, the Opus will not have the feature either.

The other, the Valhalla, seems like a dream Xbox 360. It is said to use a unified chip containing both the CPU and GPU, which would make a cheaper, more reliable, energy efficient Xbox 360. 8bit Joystick says to expect a price drop with this system, as costs would be reduced.

When will we see these? They estimate that Japser will hit this year or next, and the Valhalla will make it out by late 2009 or mid-2010. C'mon, Xbox 360. Hold out until then!

[Thanks, Jake] 








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Murder64's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:34
Murder64
Yea, just read about this on Joystiq.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:38
Trev
Valhalla = ecksbawks-slim? That would be awesome.
WastelandTraveler's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:43
WastelandTraveler
Valhalla = halo 3 map, songs, now chipsets! HOORAY. It's from viking lore and its a city of the slain.. odins hall. All viking warriors go there when they die to fight with thorr every day in the battle of ragnarok!

I want a damn 360 now just because of this chipset lolol.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:45
Gameboi
Reliable is what I'm after. The sole reason that the Xbox 360 is not my favorite console of this generation is due do how many times it let me down. It has the games, the online, and the controller.
brosef's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:56
brosef
Obligatory question: will these be what replaces sent in RRoD 360s or do we have to go out and buy brand spankin' new 360s amidst (to borrow a phrase from Nick Chester) conSKUsion?
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:59
MaxVest
I'm holding out for the Die Fledermaus chipset, which can easily fit down the front of your pants.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 10:59
Joe Burling
"I wanna play Vahalla! I call the energy sword! Don't start without me this time you guys! I'm serious! You started without me last time! Don't start without me this time! Ma! Ma! Tell grandma she can't come in here! I'm in the tub, Ma! Ssshhh, Maaaaaaa, they can HEAR YOU! No Ma!!! I'm serious you guys, I wanna play Vahalla!!! Hold on, I gotta change my color. I want to be green! Don't start yet!!"

/whiny pre-teen rant
JRisJunior's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:00
JRisJunior
wait, opus, as in the social commentary penguin that's in comics?

SUHWEEET!
brosef's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:01
brosef



Don't look at me like that. It had to be done.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:02
MechaMonkey


Destructoid helps me learn Photoshop. Hooray!
vp360's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:09
vp360
Valhalla! this better be true
UNDERSTAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:16
UNDERSTAR
@MechaMonkey - Bravo sir!
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:23
Aaron Mxy Yost
Every time rumors like this come out it makes me want to hold off on getting a 360.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:39
Cheeburga
I'm sure Ron knows.
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:46
Barcode
So why the hell did I gush out over 400 dollars on launch day when I could've gotten a "little bit better" system of 360 years later?

I feel left out.
monosylabik's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 11:53
monosylabik
so how long will these last?8months?
NightDehumidifier's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:07
NightDehumidifier
Well the Creature (if you call him Frankenstein you're an illiterate moron) and the Xbox 360 are one and the same.
The Creature has screws in its neck to support its cranium, and the Xbox360 screws you in the neck with its lack of support.
The Creature fears fire, The Xbox 360 fears overheating.
The Creature is synonymous as having a strange sense of delicacy and morbid strength. The Xbox 360 is dead from dust and a subtle fall off of a coffee table, and the system looks morbid.
The tale of the Creature was made into a satrical and slapstick comedy called "Young Frankenstein". The Xbox 360 is a joke.
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:44
mix
"it is said to use a unified chip containing both the CPU and GPU" This means it will overheat, but just take a little bit longer.

I'm so glad I haven't bought a 360 as of yet, so many variations I want the good one and I'm still waiting.
grrza's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:48
grrza
Isn't Valhalla where vikings go when they die? Somehow this doesn't seem like the best metaphorical symbol for the 360...
AlucardX24's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:55
AlucardX24
@brainderailment

OMG You're a fanboy!
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:57
BluDesign
@Murder

Thanks for that info. Some of us prefer to not get our news from hack interns willing to suck on the teat of AOL.

Which is why we're here...

Also, I guess I'll be buying one of those Valhalla systems when they come out. Anything to avoid paying $16 a month in utilities just to play Xbox.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 12:59
Danmartigan
I will stick with my elite board until the "Regalia" model comes out.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 13:00
Sharpless
Well, by the time Valhalla comes out, I might be in a position to finally buy an Xbox 360. Seriously, though, I want Valhalla plz.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 13:11
Holyetheline
Valhalla... why does that name sound familiar?
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 13:20
Y0j1mb0
So how exactly does this help the RROD?? Oh wait..it doesn't. But hey Valhalla the name sounds cool. LOL.
Terror Player's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 13:21
Terror Player
If these motherboards can promise (as the X-Box 360 Eite apparently fulffilled) that the RROD is, well, dead, then I might actually consider thinking about possibly asking someone to convince me to try and check out if a 360 is worth it...
Crapsh00t's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 13:32
Crapsh00t
B-b-b-but Xbox360 isn't going to be out in 2010!!! It's supposed to be a 5-ish year system, not a 10 year system!
Barcode's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 14:14
Barcode
@Crapsh00t

Maybe Microsoft plans on making this system last longer and focus more on developing the software better where it uses all of the 360's capability.

I mean, when the xbox first came out, the graphics and capabilities ran by the games were different than those of the later games of the xbox. If we compare the first set of 360 games to now, they've gone somewhat better.
Rainbowblack's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 14:18
Rainbowblack
this is pretty fucking absurd, it took Microsoft 4 years to finally Nail down the PERFECT 360?

shame on MS for making us pay to beta test their shit console for 4 whole years

now if youll excuse me I have a trip to UPS to make
ZonerDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 14:23
ZonerDude
I sure hope MS hang around to hammer a nail into the PS3. I hav e all three machines but the 360 has the best range of all three. The WIi comes next for games, and the PS3 barely qualifies.
Xbudz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 14:31
Xbudz
I'm pretty sure Microsoft has disabled the RROD in a recent system update.

Now my launch console will die of bad DVD instead of flashy lights.
JonDarkwood's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 14:31
JonDarkwood
Crapsh00t maybe they're doing what Sony is doing with the PS2. :)
rerun's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 15:14
rerun
the xbox 3fucking60 owns all of the other systems like i own your moms and has the best graphics
15Fps's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 15:58
15Fps
cant wait to read the 360 comments during GDC next week
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 16:01
Crunshii
/yawn,

call me when 360 reaches back to 30% RROD installment. right now is what, 70% fail rate?
rerun's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 16:02
rerun
what feels better doggie style or head
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 16:48
Bob Muir
Meh, neither sound that great. Opus sounds like a step back, while Valhalla is practically the same as Jasper. Me, I'm just hoping my Falcon chip is good enough.
Eschatos's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 17:00
Eschatos
Where are all the trolls coming from?
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 17:16
Quest
wow another 360 what a suprise lolll
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 18:17
Crunshii
I am still confused how the xbox has been out longer than the PS3 and only managed to reduce their chip size to 65nm in 4 years, while IBM/Sony Cell is a newer technology and in 1 year since PS3 release, have reduced it to 45nm, 34% less power consumption and cheaper to make.

Xenon (original), Zephyr (Elite) and Falcon (Cure to xbox Cancer) now to make things simpler a Opus and Valhalla...

Well I do hope this solves their problem, but consumers will be x10 times more confused now when it gets time to explaining their SKU's...

@ Gameboi, let me see if I get this straight...

"Hello, My 360 just RR, can I get a replacement package"

"Sure thing! just one Question: Do you have the Elite HD Valhala MB w Xenon chipset w HDD 2008 SKU or the Core Halo no-HD Valhala MB w Falcon chipset but no HDD?"

"Ah so sorry, our warranty only covers the E-HD/XenonCPU/w/HDD/2007 model, yours is not covered, but we will gladly fix it for a low price of $150 and send you a possibly fixed version"



http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/45nm-Cell-BE,news-27328.html
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 18:20
GrayFox
Eventually they will go to 45nm CPU and GPU, probably by the end of this year.

And to Yojimbo: this will help stop RROD's because it will greatly reduce the amount of heat generated by the CPU and GPU, and too much heat is what causes the motherboard to warp and thus giving RROD. The Falcon revision (which is I believe a 65nm CPU and a 80nm GPU) already uses a lot less power and generates a lot less heat, and that is with a pretty minor hardware change.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/15/2008 18:52
Sharpless
I'd like to put rerun and Quest in a cage together and see who dies first. I've been waiting for an Xbox fanboy who could out-retard Quest.

Seriously, though, Quest has no room to talk. Sony is just as spastic with its SKUs. MS has had three up until now (Arcade/Core, Premium, and Elite), and Sony has had four (20GB, 40GB, 60GB, and 80GB). And I don't count the Halo edition Xbox, since that was a limited edition fan-wank. Also, these Opus and Valhalla boxes aren't new consoles, just new innards. Updating the insides isn't really a big deal. So, sorry, dude. You've got nothing, there.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/16/2008 08:26
Quest
@ Sharpless

actually only the 40g is new the 80g is only a HDD upgrade version of the 60g. it's like they were adding new hardware like M$ did with hdmi changing color or the name like pro ,arcade elite prenium , optimum , super hot blasting missile ... etc etc etc etc ....

i was refering to another console as a remake console ... they redesign the inside of the 360 so many times vs the PS3 ... sony do it to improve is console ... M$ do it to fix the problems ... big difference here ... so my point is M$ launch the 360 way too early and full of issues

by the way do you have a job ??? i do and i also have a life outside Dtoid ;)

if you don't like what i write on this site ... who cares retardboy loll in every comment you put you mention my name ... must be hard to be you ... i know i call you once a fanboy maybe your not a M$ one but your sure a dumbass

my two cents
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 08:39
GrayFox
"your sure a dumbass"
-Quest
Crapsh00t's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:10
Crapsh00t
B-b-b-but Xbox360 isn't going to be out in 2010!!! It's supposed to be a 5-ish year system, not a 10 year system!
Crapsh00t's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:37
Crapsh00t
B-b-b-but Xbox360 isn't going to be out in 2010!!! It's supposed to be a 5-ish year system, not a 10 year system!
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 20:06
Quest
@ GrayFox


loll fag
Nubc4kes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 20:08
Nubc4kes
@Mxyzptlk

I feel the exact same way. At this rate, I'll pick one up when the next generation comes out :D
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 20:20
Dan CiTi
I <3 Pie.
Commodore624's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 22:02
Commodore624
@quest

your epic fail is so remarkable that i find have to reasons not punch my monitor so far ive come up with two
1. I dont want to get glass everywhere and 2. ok i guess theres just one
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