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Rumortoid: More Xbox Blu-ray madness photo

It doesn't matter what Microsoft says, those rumors of a Blu-ray equipped Xbox 360 continue to roll in. The latest fuel for the rumortoid fire was kindly provided by the Economic Daily News of China, which has stated that plans are underway for a new 360.

ASUS subsidiary Pegatron (founded by a transformer and a flying horse) is said to have been commissioned by The 'Soft to put together a new Xbox 360 complete with Blu-ray disc ROM drive. Seriously, another brand new SKU? Sure ... why not?

With Microsoft still not confirming a thing, this is more speculation, but we can at least confirm that until MS finally announces Blu-ray support, these rumors won't ever go away.








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Ichigo Style's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 07:28
Ichigo Style
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we were to see, say- a Blu-Ray Addon, ala the HD-DVD addon, but Microsoft has made their stance pretty solid that they wanted nothing to do with building in a HD-Format Drive for the system, they could very well change that idea though.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 07:35
Noah
I'd normally question any news coming from China, but that's usually related to global politics :) CCTV News is almost a parody.

I don't see how a new 360 makes sense, since everyone's 360 can only play DVDs. An extension like the HD-DVD player makes sense though.

I do want to upgrade to Blu-ray someday, not sure if I'd rather pay like $200 for an add on ofr my 360 or $400 for a a ps3 + blu-ray. I have a feeling that if 360 ever went blu-ray Sony would take a BIG hit.
cpt's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 08:11
cpt
I would like to clarify that the Economic Daily News is actually a Taiwanese media, not from China (although they share the same Chinese language.) Since Pegatron is also a Taiwanese company, these kinds of news release are usually pretty accurate.
Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 08:21
Emrah
Or maybe someone wanted to increase Pegatron share price :)
niacin's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 09:31
niacin
well at least unlike a having or not having a hard drive this shouldn't affect the games. All it means, if it happens, is that there will be one much more expensive SKU that plays blu-rays. That and it'd probably be blue, you know to help the simple folk.
killatia's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 09:42
killatia
my god who ever keep spreading these kind of rumers needs to GTFO of the internet.
stevenjazz787's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 09:50
stevenjazz787
Blu Ray is still too expensive, they would either have to charge a lot of money (which will look bad and no one will buy it) or they will have to take a loss. They are finally not taking a loss, why would they want to start now.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:00
Aaron Mxy Yost
No thanks, I'll pass.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:04
DaedHead8
Ehhh, Do not want.
SoopaFly TNT's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:22
SoopaFly TNT
I'll believe it when I see it
bcrt2000's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:25
bcrt2000
Guys, if MS ever integrates Bluray support into the 360 (and I think they will because the PS3 started to get the sales of the people on the fence of deciding between 360/PS3), they will NOT use it for games. It will only be for MOVIES.

Maybe later in the lifecycle of the 360 (and they would HAVE to release a cheap Blu-ray addon for older systems for this to make any sense) they would start releasing Blu-ray versions alongside multi-disc DVD versions of games. But at the end of the day they don't want to make another 32x and games will always be made available on DVD.

Blu-ray support will be for movies only.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:39
Clockwork
That SKU will be so damn expensive.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:44
B-Radicate
@bcrt2000: I just reread all the comments here and no one said otherwise. You're effectively arguing with yourself. Fail.

I could see this happening. I think MS learned their lesson with the HD-DVD add-on and if they really do change their stance on the Blu-Ray format that they will simply make a new SKU, like they did with HDD capacity and the Elite console. Only question is how will they allow older adopters to upgrade to BR drives. That I don't have an answer to. Maybe when your system RRoDs they'll plop the BR drive in. Zing.

What I do know is that it will really piss people off who recently purchased a system. My best friend is going out today to buy one, actually, and as a pretty casual player the Blu-Ray in the PS3 was a big thing for him to overcome. If the 360 releases with BR anytime soon he's gonna be mad upset. Oh well. Can't win 'em all I guess.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:49
Crunshii
well the sad truth is that Microsoft claimed their system was HD next-gen. without a BRD player, that claim is false. So in that sense to compete as a home entertainment system vs the PS3 they need to add the BRD player.

On the other hand, who the hell would watch movies on a 360... risking disk scratches, RROD and what not. So its like a back and forth thing that in the end, just makes consumers spend more wasted money.
Noah's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 11:53
Noah
@CPT

Nice detective work. Yeah if any news came out of Taiwan or Singapore I'd take it much more seriously... but I wouldn't be surprised to hear of some crazy hybrid/bootleg knockoff 360 that plays cartridges and AM/FM radio come from mainland China :)
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 12:19
Sharpless
I don't what Microsoft claims, it's going to happen. Not even Microsoft is stupid enough to not make room for the dominant HD format on their console. In some way, shape, or form, it will happen eventually.

And if Talladega Nights doesn't come with it, I'm busting shit up.
Monte's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 12:40
Monte
@B-Radicate

Well that's why they would go with a blu-ray add-on if anything... a blu-ray SKU would feel like alienating towards the older customers... with the add-on, every 360 owner new and old would be able to get it, and if it's only being used for movies then integration into the console is completely unnecessary. Though 360 owners would just have to hope they build the add-on better than the disk drive on the 360 to avoid the risk of scratches... has their been complaints of HD-DVD disk's getting scratched in the hddvd add-on?
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 12:52
Volomon
Whats this their 7th SKU?

@Noah All of "softs" hardware comes from China why do you think the RRD exists.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 12:56
Volomon
Hahahahahah, thats funny if it is being made in Taiwan. That means Sony is forcing them to have QUALITY bluray players instead of those Chinese pos knock offs Microsoft has been using. Thats so freaking ironic.

I can see it now, NO you can't make a Chinese bluray, pay the damn 10cents more!
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 13:15
F Whipple
So Talladega Nights isn't exclusive anymore?
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 14:44
Timmeh
Is it wrong to just want something to play fucking games on instead of some overpriced piece of crap with a bunch of half-assed functionality crammed in?

I don't want to browse the web, I don't want to listen to music, I don't want to watch movies, I don't want it to do the dishes (okay well maybe that one). I just want to play games on my GAMES console.

If there wasn't this constant drive to put more crap in the box the things would be much bloody cheaper.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 15:01
liquidninja
What with the addons anyway?

I mean addons are stupid I think the success of the SEGA-32X and SEGA-CD should be proof enough.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 15:56
pedrovay2003
Honestly, an addon I can see. I don't see how Sony would let anyone else do a built-in one, though, but we'll see what happens. Doesn't Sony have the last say as to whether or not that happens?
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 16:03
Timmeh
@pedrovay

Sony doesn't OWN Blu-Ray as everyone seems to assume (honestly, did we have this problem with DVD and the PS2)?

Sony is one of the companies on the board of directors of the Blu-Ray Disc Association. Along with 17 others. So no, they wouldn't have the final say.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 16:08
Volomon
@Timmeh Actually they do, they have a larger stake in the developed tech than most of those other companies, they would receive royalties as a part of whatever agreement Microsoft has with them. Most of those companies worked on an associated technology, where as Sony actually produced and backed the product. So they have the rights to it.
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 16:28
wonky360
Even if the blueray drive was free - ITS TOO NOISY TO WATCH A MOVIE.
As soon as the 360 goes silent - then it can think about being a movie player.
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 16:39
Darren Nakamura
I don't particularly care about the news, but the Pegatron comment made me lol.
Zero Iscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 17:17
Zero Iscariot
Man, the Sony GK viral marketers sure love spreading FUD...

If you move anything that contains a 12x DVD-ROM while it's spinning it will scratch the disc... RROD is essentially a non-issue since switching to 65nm fabrication.... and the noise issue? I bet my Dtoid account that a playing a Blu-Ray would emit the same amount of noise from a PS3 or Blu-Ray 360 because the noise has always been from the Xbox 12x DVD spinning. Incidentally, the fast spinning disc is the same reason why you only have to install games on PS3, the 2x BD-ROM is about 30% slower getting data off the disc.

Sony only cares about Blu-Ray, not how shitty of a format it is for streaming data.

FUD fucking city people. If it wasn't for the Euro Union always fining Microsoft, and Japans insistence that they play shitty games that are otaku approved, the 360 would lead in all 3 regions. The world hates america, even if it has the best GAME machine.
Zero Iscariot's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 17:20
Zero Iscariot
BTW, my chinese-made 40GB PS3 is about as loud as my 360 Elite when watching videos that aren't locked down on a proprietary over-priced disc.
$49.99 for the latest Will Farrell POS semi-pro? fuck off with that.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 17:35
BlackSunEmpire
@Zero Iscariot, you're so right, up until I read your comment I didn't realise that 360 is the only console to buy. You've won the console war, congratulations. Can you turn down the fanboyism, this isn't a 'which console is better thread'.

As for the rest of the thread, I would say this is likely to happen, and that it is likely to be an addon, not a new SKU. People aren't going to want to install games on their 360, any more than they do on their PS3. Unless it's some sort of combo BR/DVD drive that can handle high DVD speeds.

Also, while Sony may be a major player in the Blu-Ray group, primarily they are a group that wants to make money out of spreading BR. They won't stop microsoft putting it in one of the major consoles. The bigger the market penetrance of Blu-ray, the more money they stand to make. Have you ever noticed MSOffice has a mac version?? These companies may be in competition, but they're still primarily abut the bottom line.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 18:57
Knivy
Yeah... at this point i believe it, considering how rumors usually go with MS.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 19:10
Shin Oni
It's kinda a given really. We all know Microsoft want every bit of money they can squeeze to their company. If a Blu ray is added to the 360, it just means more money for both Sony and Microsoft.
Quest's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 20:28
Quest
hope sony won't let the 360 have the BR
Reallynotnick's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/08/2008 22:18
Reallynotnick
Am I the only person here who WANTS a BD drive in my 360?

I have been tempted to buy a PS3 just to for BD but I don't want to have both consoles and for me the 360 has more games I want to play. Even if I hate the hardware and I am on my 4th, sadly I think it has the best games out there.
Robone's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2008 00:15
Robone
I just cant see how Microsoft wouldn't jump on the blu ray train. Even if they broke even investing in an external player, it would draw them even with playstation in the features department. Those bragging rights would probably result in enough console sales to make it worth their time.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2008 01:05
Sharpless
@Quest
Blu-Ray isn't Sony's baby, you know. Sony is only one of 18 companies on the Blu-Ray Disc Association's board of directors. If Sony chose to kick and scream about Microsoft getting Blu-Ray -- which, incidentally, would be a batshit-stupid move -- I somehow doubt the majority of the board would support them in their objection. Microsoft is an extremely powerful, influential company, regardless of their shortcomings, and definitely someone that the BR Disc Association would want helping them get BR discs into more people's homes.
ghets's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2008 01:13
ghets
Theres no way the 360 will ever have a built in Bluray drive for games. If that was the case, everyone whos bought a 360 up to this point would be getting screwed when new games started coming out on Bluray and they couldnt play them. At the most they could have an add-on for movies which i guess would make sense so 360 owners could watch HD movies.

Anyways honestly i think Bluray is a load of crap. Youre paying like 10 bucks more than a DVD for the same content and special features and the difference in picture quality is practically unnoticeable. Maybe if you have a 70inch LCD you can tell the difference...
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/09/2008 02:23
mistic
Don't care at all... I've got a 360 for gaming and a PS3 for bluray so I've got my bases covered :-)
TheDreadHawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/12/2008 12:43
TheDreadHawk
ghets and mistic; totally agreed.
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